"some people might do bad things with it" is the exact line of argument the conservatives use in trying to stop violent video games and other things. My point stands.
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#Arbyswaifu "Actually, she's 54 years old"
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So you're going to pretend that parroting the "really XX years old" excuse and using "waifu" in their tag isn't inviting those kinds of responses?
I dnno, man. There's a pretty clear line of effect here...
I love this quote. It should almost be the tagline for EtcetEra forums.
I think it's more that Woke Arbys probably doesn't realize what Waifu actually means. Which makes the 54 years old defense hilarious. BUT maybe woke arbys is SUPER woke and this was all a troll from the start.
Is this #problematic ?
I mean, to be totally fair I understand the only real issue here seems to be that they used "waifu" which is a term/concept I find really stupid.
I mean, to be totally fair I understand the only real issue here seems to be that they used "waifu" which is a term/concept I find really stupid.
Nah, she is hitting menopause so a pixie cut and some sensible shoes would do the trick.
Advertising like that doesn't work anymore, and I'm pretty sure you're well aware of that.
Also no one in their right mind would be wooed in by Arby's advertising their awful food. This is a smarter way to bring people in.
It won't work with Arby's either way because their sandwiches are terrible. Better to advertise what they actually sell as little as possible.
It is roast beef sandwiches. The recipe is pretty simple. Just slice some beef, and combine it with some lettuce, tomatoes, and such. I am not sure how it is considered awful food.
The quality of the beef sucks. It tastes more like corn than beef.
Seems to me they know exactly what it is and are having some fun without the crazy nefarious motives y'all are attributing to them
What crazy nefarious motives? That they are pushing child porn? I find it in bad taste but wouldn't go that far.
Besides looking at this thread the opinions against the tweet seem to be in the minority anyway.
TIL waifu meant something different than what I thought and is called "wife-fu", not "wafer".
Kinda like calling it wafer tho.
Kinda like calling it wafer tho.
I dunno tbh. I think I associated waifu with waif. Also apparently I don't know what waif means, according to google is commonly used to describe homeless children and such. Hmm, I thought it meant something cute, and therefore waifu was something cute. Not wife and such. Good to know.
They were accused of doing this "for the channers" and other things in here. Maybe you haven't read the thread?
So what's your take on loli shit ?Remember, everyone...
So, child porn is okay if it's cartoons?Remember, everyone...
I suppose this is a thing that will happen with all woke brands. They keep it a little too real with their demographic and trip over something REALLY VILE because they're just pandering and don't actually understand the ramifications of what their saying.
It's like when I have to remind people in FF threads that "OMG RIKKU BEST GIRL MAI WAIFU" is them saying they want to fuck a 16 year old.
BTW: for reference, IIRC the origin of Waifu.
It's like when I have to remind people in FF threads that "OMG RIKKU BEST GIRL MAI WAIFU" is them saying they want to fuck a 16 year old.
BTW: for reference, IIRC the origin of Waifu.
These kinda posts are super dishonest and kinda disgusting, but you do you. Maybe take a look at the character in question again and report back on whether or not Arbys posted child porn.
Framing fellow members of the community as child porn enablers isn't woke.
There are some issues I take with Arby's doing this - but it's not for the same reasons that the majority of people here are concerned about. Personally, the "chibi style" art is something that has been used for ages now. It's used as forum avatars, profile pictures, and even just "cute art." Chibi art doesn't mean that they're intending to be sexualized. Next, the usage of "waifu" was done in the typical ironic/tongue-in-cheek method that both Wendy's and Arby's have used in responses or general tweets off and on. Seeing as Arby's and Wendy's have both used "waifu" in comments/tweets in the past, they understand that there's an ironic context to its usage.
Worrying about someone sexualizing Arby's "waifu" is odd, from my perspective. Artists can sexualize anything/anyone if they want to - that isn't the responsibility of the original artist, is it? It would be like people getting upset with Disney for creating characters that are children because some weirdo online decides to make pornographic comics based on them. People will manipulate characters as they please, regardless of the permission of the content creator - that's always been the case, and why parody doujinshi exists (both hentai and non-hentai alike).
My problem is that they're getting free designs from the community without having to pay for it. Granted, they essentially just want their hashtag to trend. Free marketing (#1) and free spec work (#2) are things that I can't necessarily agree with when it comes down to it. Sure, they have been retweeting some artwork but publicity isn't exactly payment (we all should know the "exposure meme" artists deal with by now).
Worrying about someone sexualizing Arby's "waifu" is odd, from my perspective. Artists can sexualize anything/anyone if they want to - that isn't the responsibility of the original artist, is it? It would be like people getting upset with Disney for creating characters that are children because some weirdo online decides to make pornographic comics based on them. People will manipulate characters as they please, regardless of the permission of the content creator - that's always been the case, and why parody doujinshi exists (both hentai and non-hentai alike).
My problem is that they're getting free designs from the community without having to pay for it. Granted, they essentially just want their hashtag to trend. Free marketing (#1) and free spec work (#2) are things that I can't necessarily agree with when it comes down to it. Sure, they have been retweeting some artwork but publicity isn't exactly payment (we all should know the "exposure meme" artists deal with by now).
I don't see how the Arby's waifu is "porn" but whatever deflects the question at hand, that's fine I suppose. I wonder why people take animation so seriously when it's a storytelling medium. Then we should ban all of it. Let's ban the shipping of characters since they are underage and cannot consent. Why stop there?
I hadn't bought Wendy's for years but when I heard about their twitter burns I immediately got a 4 for $4. No regrets
Noticed you quoted me and not tge other person asking the same question but I'm not "deflecting" the question, you said they're fictional characters so who cares. Okay, let's drop the extreme example, you think objectifying women is okay if they're fictional and isn't a root of deeper issue with the person doing it? Okay, I know it's the cool thing to "shit on SKWs" and to "own the libz" but you're being disingenuous at best here.
I don't care about either side, because both can be just as bad with its extremes. If people like loli stuff, be aware that carries a heavy stigma and you're gonna get judged for it. Sure, there are some artists with personal issues that express themselves through their "art" but why would I want to silence someone? Like it or not, there is freedom of speech. I know it's restricted in some states and not so much in others. I don't want there to be some Mary Whitehouse-esque advocate group stating what is or isn't right or allowed. I am not defecating on any shonen jump weeklys and not "owning" anyone liberal or otherwise. Agree to disagree is what to this ultimately comes down to. Included the other comment as well, since I forgot to do so the first time.
That "she's actually 54 years old" followup comment actually could had worked as a good joke if the design was actually closer to a young woman than a young girl (and that couldn't had been easy to do, just change the proportions so that she's visibly older). It could had played off that "really a 1000 year old dragon" anime trope but downplayed it by not being as much of a exaggerated example. As is though it seems more of a case of playing it straight.
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we live in a corporate society
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we live in a corporate society
Isn't saying "she's 54 years old" already less exaggerated than saying someone is a 1000 year old dragon? In either case, your example isn't really how comedy works anyway. Saying an obviously young character is actually a middle aged woman is far funnier than claiming someone who could possibly be 54 actually is.
And finally, drawing the character differently for the joke is pretty hard given that the joke was made in response to a reply to the drawing, so unless the assumption is that the character was drawn young to incite the criticism needed to setup the "she's 54" joke then by the time they made the comment the drawing was already set in stone and couldn't be altered in service (or disservice) of the joke.
My mindset was that "54 years old" comment would be funnier because young characters turning out to actually be absurdly much older than they looked is virtually always how the "1000 years old dragon" meme plays out. The joke thus becomes a subversion of expectations, someone actually being just a few decades older instead of instead of being hundreds or thousands of years older as one would normally expect from this trope.
I'll concede with you pointing out the drawing bit though. Can't believe my mind blanked on that being a followup response, that would only make sense if they made the "actually 54 years old" comment with the original post.
Great post that I'm almost certain will just be ignored in favor of continuing the current argument going on in here.
Again, while its easy to see how it connects back to the 1000 year-old dragon trope, the 54 comment was specifically referencing the age of Arby's as a company. They've been around 54 years, thus their weird little barbecue gremlin mascot thing is 54 years old.
Also how the hell is this thread still going after 10 pages?!
Reading this, I would have thought that Arby's is making fun of the "Actually, she's a 1,000 year old dragon," meme/thing, not feeding into it. It's just ... way too meta for Arby's to take a chance on that.
Yeah, this. Like... they're trying to hard to identify with their audience without really understanding that their audience is so sheltered that a lot of this shit is weird if you think it out to its logical conclusion.
Yeah, this. Like... they're trying to hard to identify with their audience without really understanding that their audience is so sheltered that a lot of this shit is weird if you think it out to its logical conclusion.
