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Applying for jobs is exhausting and soul-crushing
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Really not sure how to handle this one - I had an interview a couple of weeks ago with a company that asked a lot about marketing strategy and digital media. I offered some low hanging fruit ideas and smaller things that would be pretty easy to impliment to show that I know my stuff. Earlier last week I got a rejection call from them and I noticed towards the middle of last week that one of my ideas was implimented. At first I thought nothing of it, but at the end of last week I saw another. My count this morning is 4 of the 6 things I said have been put into place.
I know it's my mistake for offering these up, but I consider it very poor form that they're doing this. Should I punch them up on Glassdoor, or would I run the risk of burning myself with their parent company (who are huge, own a lot of places I might want to work at). Do I just let it go and not give so much up next time?
I know it's my mistake for offering these up, but I consider it very poor form that they're doing this. Should I punch them up on Glassdoor, or would I run the risk of burning myself with their parent company (who are huge, own a lot of places I might want to work at). Do I just let it go and not give so much up next time?
That's how most of the interviews I've had (that I mentioned in my last post) were. Same types of positions/industry. Usually they asked three or four questions instead of two and they were more 30 minutesish, but that doesn't sound too off the mark from what I experienced.
Bug the fuck out of recruiters. Don't feel any shame when it comes to recruiters. They're basically only there to be annoyed. Otherwise they serve no purpose (I'd argue they still don't but I suppose some people might have luck with them)
Everything I've read is that's a red flag.
The only legit case I've seen so far is for an academic job where you are enrolled as a student while also working for the institution, so it's technically a school application and not a job application.
But maybe there are more exceptions like that one.
If these are actually low-hanging fruit ideas, are you certain they didn't think of them independently?
If it weren't 4 extreme left turn ideas in such a quick succession I wouldn't have thought anything of it. The timing and fact that their current team has been in place for years and has never done anything like this until after my meeting with them makes me suspect.
Yeah, that's fucked up then. They basically got a free consultation out of you.
Sounds pretty par for the course then. It was just weird that there were zero technical or behavioral questions asked.
Also just read your last post... and we are in the same boat with the only difference being connections. My only advice is to just keep grinding away with at least 5 applications a day and make sure not to get complacent. My friend graduated with a degree in computer science and has yet to find a job in his field two years later.
So I got a reply to an application for a writing position earlier asking me some stuff about the job (If I'm okay getting to the office, hours, highest education level, etc.) via email. I send a reply to the email answering the questions and get a reply back saying they'll keep in touch. Unfortunately, I replied using the wrong title for the recruiter (Mr. instead of Ms.). She brought this to my attention within that email, to which I replied with an email saying "my apologies, I will make sure to refer to you by your correct name in the future".
Did I just cost myself a job opportunity or am I overthinking this?
Did I just cost myself a job opportunity or am I overthinking this?
had a first day at a new job today and thought it was pretty bad. I'm hoping it gets better, but i'm seriously considering going back to my old job possibly at this rate (I left on good terms and could probably get my job back since my last day was on Friday). Only reason i'm hesitant is that the job I took pays more but i'm not sure if it's even worth it (have to do more work, the computer system is worse etc)
What's wrong with the job? Is it something that you could get used to in time? And what do you mean by "more job"?
Sorry if I come off like a nosy person, I'm just trying to help. Maybe you could give the job a try, since you've just been there for a day.
Good luck Stalwart! Hope it works out for ya!
Few hours ago I got a job interview in pretty big studio. They are looking for a Support Specialist. I have previous experience in that field but I am goddamn terrible at interviews. I had like 7 interviews only in my life (maybe less) and I only passed one which was with Head of Support - I didn't speak with HR at all. Any tips on what to expect and everything? I usually mostly don't care about interviews but I was hoping this studio will look for Support / Community Manager Intern or something like that for a while and I want that job. So it's in about 15 hours and I already start to freaking out.
Maybe any HRs here or people with lots of experience in interviews. I feel like I really need your help on this one.
Obviously googling some articles and trying to prepare. Deffo gonna read some thoughts in here but generally just asking before that. Staying 2 years freelance-find-your-own-way-of-earning-money does not help at all.
rip my sleep
Maybe any HRs here or people with lots of experience in interviews. I feel like I really need your help on this one.
Obviously googling some articles and trying to prepare. Deffo gonna read some thoughts in here but generally just asking before that. Staying 2 years freelance-find-your-own-way-of-earning-money does not help at all.
rip my sleep
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What's everyone's opinion on applying to a job posting that has been up 30+ days? I feel by that time the position would have been filled no?
Or it means they haven't found anyone so you should apply.
Only one way to find out.
It's basically an office job. The job I took pays slightly more but the benefits are also slightly worse. At my old job I could pretty much do fuck all the whole day (eg browse era/listen to music) as long as whatever needed to get done was done. At my current job, the previous person who had the job did such terrible job that i'm having to go back and pretty much redo all of their work. I feel bad that I already want out (today was in some ways worse than my first day) but I already have the feeling i'm not going to want to stay here for too long.
Reason why I wanted to take a higher paying job is so I could start taking classes at night to eventually apply for grad school. I don't see that as an option though when i'm more stressed out/miserable during the day.
Just got done with my second interview in as many days. Felt like I did good in them, and got reassurance that I did good from both, but man maybe I'm just pessimistic since I'm still anxious. Hoping for the best but I not the kind of person to get my hopes up.
Gonna head to a job fair on Thursday that one of the companies I just interviewed with will be at. Should be fun lol.
Gonna head to a job fair on Thursday that one of the companies I just interviewed with will be at. Should be fun lol.
I once applied to a posting for an internship that was from 30 days before I applied and got the internship. Apply, you don't lose anything Except a couple of minutes
I hope it works out for you somehow, whether you stay or go back.
I announced my departure from my company at the end of next month, after more than half a year of disrespect, including racist comments, to which the company has done nothing against after 4 weeks of "investigating the facts" as of tomorrow.
Had an interview two days ago and I'm waiting to hear back from a few other places but I'm prepared to leave Japan after 9 years if the right opportunity doesn't come up. No regrets.
Had an interview two days ago and I'm waiting to hear back from a few other places but I'm prepared to leave Japan after 9 years if the right opportunity doesn't come up. No regrets.
Sorry to hear it, I've definitely been there with similar gaffes. It happens. If a person is remotely reasonable they won't hold it against you and I think the majority of people fall into this category so I wouldn't sweat it. You already apologized politely which is the most you can do and more than many would do. Fingers crossed for you!
Last week I flew out for an on-site interview with a company. I think my interview did well enough, but they said they'll have a decision once they are done interviewing the other candidates for the one opening. Today I got an email saying they are interviewing the last of the candidates today and they'll have an answer on Monday. So now I'm a human bundle of stress. It's one thing to do my best in the interview and the design tests, it's another to then also hope that my best is better than X number of other people also doing their best. That's the worry that really sets in deep inside of me. It's going to be a long weekend.
Back here guys, but this time is not for me, but I'm looking for tips for a family member. She's a senior that due to economic issues is looking to get back into the market after years of not working.
Any tips on points that should touch upon in an introduction paragraph in her resumé? Other thing I'm lookking upon is if she should go with the classical resumé that uses the timeline format, or to use some atemporal format that hides the big gap. Will it ring too many warning bells for the recruiters?
Any tips on points that should touch upon in an introduction paragraph in her resumé? Other thing I'm lookking upon is if she should go with the classical resumé that uses the timeline format, or to use some atemporal format that hides the big gap. Will it ring too many warning bells for the recruiters?
I have a job, but what's your experience with these stupid test they want to put you through. Is this a common thing now? I'm 30 years old and I dont remember the two trains colliding, nor math problems. And I'm currently making close to 6 figures and i know my job inside and out..its just another fking worry to think about
Sorry to hear it. I've never heard of this. What do they say is the point?
Just recently accepted a job offer, so I'm finally off the market! It's been tough, started devoting a lot of time into job searching back in October and didn't even hear back from anyone until March, but it's all good now. I had two offers that I got to choose from, which was nice.
I honestly feel like job searching is a lot of luck and I finally got lucky. Best of luck to everyone here!
I honestly feel like job searching is a lot of luck and I finally got lucky. Best of luck to everyone here!
I'm confused as hell right now.
Had an interview recently arranged through a recruiter, got on really well with the guy in the interview, feedback after was very positive eg they were impressed with me, could see me fitting in with the office and working there, had a design task to do, did that and feedback again was very positive, really happy with what I did, jump to today and the recruiter again tells me again how impressed they were with everything and me as a person, but the problem is they don't have any space for me at the moment in the office...uhm what? Said he would let me know in a week or two how things are going but at the moment there's just no space.
Is this the recruiter just trying to let me down gently or something? I literally cannot make any sense of it, in the interview the guy said they had loads of work on and hence why they were advertising, and if I did good at the design task I would be in great standing for the job...and here I am wondering WTF and feeling a little crushed.
Had an interview recently arranged through a recruiter, got on really well with the guy in the interview, feedback after was very positive eg they were impressed with me, could see me fitting in with the office and working there, had a design task to do, did that and feedback again was very positive, really happy with what I did, jump to today and the recruiter again tells me again how impressed they were with everything and me as a person, but the problem is they don't have any space for me at the moment in the office...uhm what? Said he would let me know in a week or two how things are going but at the moment there's just no space.
Is this the recruiter just trying to let me down gently or something? I literally cannot make any sense of it, in the interview the guy said they had loads of work on and hence why they were advertising, and if I did good at the design task I would be in great standing for the job...and here I am wondering WTF and feeling a little crushed.
I'm looking for a job right now while working normal M-F business hours in an office where I'm one of 2 employees. I didn't realize how complicated it is to schedule interviews when working in an office like that. The boss rarely lets us have time off without guilt tripping us hard about missing work, or making us come in on Saturdays to make up time, so chances to get time off are precious few. Any tips you guys might have to that end? Calling in sick would be the first thing I'd jump to, but I had to ACTUALLY call in sick one day last week so that's probably off the table for now.
To make matters more frustrating, I landed a phone interview at a company recently where everything was lined up perfectly. A couple friends who are well-respected at the company vouched for me hard, I had a phone interview that went great, the position was a perfect fit with my experience and would've offered almost double the salary I'm making now. I had a second phone interview that was easily the best phone interview I'd ever had. Come to find out the only reason they didn't bring me in for an in-person interview was because I didn't ask the second interviewer what the next steps would be. Even though I already knew what the next steps would be since we covered it in the first interview. I sent an email to HR trying to clarify that but it went nowhere. I'm still reeling over it.
That totally sucks Daffy. That's the first time I've ever heard of something like that happening. And if they didn't go with you, they should have at least told you outright rather than stringing you along for another week or two. Hope it works out.
To make matters more frustrating, I landed a phone interview at a company recently where everything was lined up perfectly. A couple friends who are well-respected at the company vouched for me hard, I had a phone interview that went great, the position was a perfect fit with my experience and would've offered almost double the salary I'm making now. I had a second phone interview that was easily the best phone interview I'd ever had. Come to find out the only reason they didn't bring me in for an in-person interview was because I didn't ask the second interviewer what the next steps would be. Even though I already knew what the next steps would be since we covered it in the first interview. I sent an email to HR trying to clarify that but it went nowhere. I'm still reeling over it.
That totally sucks Daffy. That's the first time I've ever heard of something like that happening. And if they didn't go with you, they should have at least told you outright rather than stringing you along for another week or two. Hope it works out.
As for your first point, I'm in a similar position, I work in a small family business ( I'm the only employee in the office not a family member) and I'd have to schedule interviews as short notice holiday or failing that take a sickie (which I had to do for this interview) and onto that point I am still totally at a loss and confused over the whole thing, as you say I'd rather know outright and then at least get some feedback on how to improve, but maybe it's genuine. But I just know it sucks balls.
I was notified that I passed the screening process I went to the other week. So I'm on the final step now, the background investigation for my clearance. I'm almost there, I see the light at the end of the tunnel.
I left Public Education in December after 2 1/2 years over health insurance and job security. If I were to have gone through my employer it would have cost me $700 USD for a less-than-stellar co-pay plan.
Now, 4 months into my new job I've had enough. I miss Public Education. Working with the students and teachers was like no other job I've had before. I truly feel like I lost a family when I left.
Now there's a new gig open at another School Corporation that I am 100% qualified for in every way. I don't know how to proceed, as I am very conscious of how my resume will list my current job "Jan 2018 - Current."
How can I better my chances of getting my foot in the door? Is cold-calling the IT Director a viable strategy? I'd frame the call around getting more information and seeing if it's still available (it's on Indeed, but not the Corporation's website).
Should I include in my Cover Letter my reason for looking at this opportunity so soon into my current job?
Sidenote, asking for my previous job is not on the table. I was shared between 2 districts, as they both are under-funded, and they hired a Managed IT Services firm to take my place.
Now, 4 months into my new job I've had enough. I miss Public Education. Working with the students and teachers was like no other job I've had before. I truly feel like I lost a family when I left.
Now there's a new gig open at another School Corporation that I am 100% qualified for in every way. I don't know how to proceed, as I am very conscious of how my resume will list my current job "Jan 2018 - Current."
How can I better my chances of getting my foot in the door? Is cold-calling the IT Director a viable strategy? I'd frame the call around getting more information and seeing if it's still available (it's on Indeed, but not the Corporation's website).
Should I include in my Cover Letter my reason for looking at this opportunity so soon into my current job?
Sidenote, asking for my previous job is not on the table. I was shared between 2 districts, as they both are under-funded, and they hired a Managed IT Services firm to take my place.
That's such a bullshit reason. Yeah, sometimes I'll ask what the next steps are, sometimes the interviewer will just tell me, but using that as the sole reason for not bringing you in-person? No way. They're certainly not telling your friends at the company the true story.
based on what you are saying, are you in IT ?
i've worked at the local and state level for government, and shits easy. there's no real rush to do things in contrast to a private corporation since government's role is to just function.
re-apply back there and see if you can get in.
Yeah, SysAdmin. I don't live in the most populated area (one of the schools I worked for was literally in the middle of corn fields), so for this job to pop up I would definitely like to do anything to get a foot in the door.
I can vouch for your claim. I've been in State-funded, Higher Ed, and now Public Education jobs and they've all been way more enjoyable than the corporate ones I've had (like this one).
it is what it is, but now i've seen both sides. you really go private for the $ and possibly experience. learned a shit ton when i went helpdesk to desktop to junior network admin, but pay was shit; though learned a lot.
wouldn't want to do it again as it was soul drenching. i'd have liked it if they gave me more shekels for the shit i was doing. (projects such as looking for an imaging solution, MDM solution, then having to take care of vendor purchasing of hardware such as laptops then there's also the day to day tasks) - did you do something similar ? mind you, this was at a medium sized company of 450.
local and state is easy; just give them hardware and the occasional software troubleshooting, or there's that hardware refresh where they need to upgrade (its gov, they don't upgrade for shit), but you need to deal with people who are 'used to shit'.
are these full time jobs or contracts ?
don't be unavailable to contract jobs as those are still something.
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I've been starting to look for a job again after a bad bout of depression and the soul crushing part couldn't be truer. I'm starting to realize I have no real skills in life and I'm destined to work a crappy retail job forever. When I say no skills I mean it, I've been fucking up since high school and never devoted time to anything. Even if I somehow got an interview I'd probably blow it, like the last couple of phone/in person interviews I've been on.
Same boat, nearly all decent paying jobs make you do these cognitive tests now. I hate them because I'm terrible at them, especially where they only give you 30 seconds for each question!
Thank God I'm not the only one. Seriously I'm going to do my MBA and got in at a decent place no problem,but fuck my life these math problems are killing me soul, ask me the steps needed organizationally, end user macro micro about big data from one erp yo another I will talk your ear off, but no. We need you to remember fking trivial math things that I hVwnt done in years
Guys, as a tip, all those cognitive tests are online. Try to figure out the names and seek them online, and practice. It is annoying, but I did that with some of the psych tests, like the colors' test or the images test.
Those tests are meant to make you nervous and to not be answered in the time they gave you. Don't feel bad about preparing for them.
Kevers, but that's why we're here to try to help. Maybe there's someway we can help or to give tips.
Those tests are meant to make you nervous and to not be answered in the time they gave you. Don't feel bad about preparing for them.
Kevers, but that's why we're here to try to help. Maybe there's someway we can help or to give tips.
A lot of it depends on the organisation, I have bombed pretty much all the tests but nearly all the time I have progressed to the next stage so I think the interview is still more important. I had one recently where there were tests plus a take home exam! The amount have effort required for applications has certainly gone up since I graduated
The job I just accepted though, they actually approached me and they skipped all the tests which meant I had a verbal offer just after two interviews within the same week
If they want you bad enough, they will skip all that crap
research your position and location's salary range, and if possible the company's.
wait for them to give a number.
go hard by going high (i.e, if their highest is 70k, ask for 75). politely but firm.