There's a major difference between investing money into a project released to the public vs streaming a game at zero costs to Ninja.
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Appears Ninja Moved to Youtube Streaming [Up: Negotiating with other companies, free do stream where he wants still]
- Thread starter Jogi
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When you go to watch a movie, a concert, or when you buy a product you are....purchasing the product, or a license, with splits of those money going to the thousands of people who produced it and worked on it (in different % of course).
Im not sure how you and others are comparing that to donating to someone who is streaming on a free platform, who has 40 millions in the bank and who doesnt really need a 500$ donation.
But hey, spend your money in the way you like and have fun
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Take a seat bud.You can let it all out, you're among friends here.
Tell us how much of your hard earned money have you thrown away donating to a streamer? don't be shy, you can justify the ridiculousness of it all anyway it's just like going to the movies right?!? We won't laugh we promise.
I can't speak to whether making a deal with streamers is worth it. But, by almost any metric, Ninja is one of the biggest streamers in the world.
One of my friends was complaining the other day because one streamer doesn't broadcast on weekends and doesn't make his own YouTube videos anymore, and I had to kindly tell him that's what happens when you make several million dollars a year.
These streamers are filthy rich and they have these fake relationships with their viewers who feel they need to donate to 'support the content'.
Are you guys gonna get mad because he earns money from Streaming??
Try it, Try how hard it is. It's fucking hard work and luck to get to that level
12 hours streaming everyday for a year with trolls on your chat, trying to be the best on that field.
I don't even like him, but I've seen how streamers struggle for years to finally get a decent following.
Try it, Try how hard it is. It's fucking hard work and luck to get to that level
12 hours streaming everyday for a year with trolls on your chat, trying to be the best on that field.
I don't even like him, but I've seen how streamers struggle for years to finally get a decent following.
So people give them money to be acknowledged? lol.
EDIT; I know people do. I don't care what others do with their money.
You're an idiot. I've never even watched the guy, let alone given him money.
I'm not in the business of telling other people what to spend their cash on though. If they can afford it, what's the problem?
It's called negotiating, ninja has a good manager me thinks lol
It doesn't upset me personally...but I'll never understand why someone feels the need to give ninja $500. I assume if they are giving Ninja that much, then they also know he just got paid $30 million from Mixer. The person donating that $500 probably needs it a lot more than Ninja does.
I know what you mean , i'm sub to 2 streamers and i watch them a lot more than movies but i still think it's absurd to give thousand of dollars of donation for a guys who just won 30 millions $, of course they can do whatever they want with their money.
So what if I do? It's my money that I'd be spending. Would you shame me if I was buying something else? A whole big stack of manga or a fancy dinner? It's none of your business how people spend their money, and shaming them for how they choose to is really sad.
Full disclosure: I have a few monthly Twitch subs to people who aren't super popular, including my Prime sub. Have never actually straight donated money to anyone on Twitch.
Just like a lot of other careers that can lead to wealth. There are a lot more people out there failing than getting to the height of this dude.
He has a lot of leverage as well. He could use this to get twitch to pay up more if he thought they night really want him.
"Whoaaaa! Huge 20 bomb from Drackonic! Thanks, my dude! This guy is INSANE chat ... absolutely insane. OH SHIT! I've got two guys on me! I'm knocked! They're gonna finish me. DAMNIT. Fuck this game. Oh hey, JustBlaze420, thank you for the tier 2 sub, let's get it babyyyy."
Yeah, this type of donators just want some attention and to be "internet acquaintance/friends". If they get mentioned, They donate more in the future
It's sad really. But hey, if that makes them happy lol
Oh yes of course, even when he left he was still at least top30 on twitch.
Just using YT to bide his time and let the negotiation process work. No need to rush it if you think you can secure a bigger payout.
Streamers are out there grinding dozens of hours for another sub. I think spreading the wealth around to those that make you happy is awesome.
I just don't think someone like Ninja is comparable. He isn't playing for donations. He's beyond donations. Millions for 6 months on Mixr. He doesn't care or need $10 more dollars let alone $500. He'll get that from advertisers in a minute.
Give to the struggling.
The difference being Youtube is streamable basically everywhere. Mixer had specific places to stream.
Isn't this guy a millionaire?
I don't really watch streamers, not my thing, but I can't understanding donating to rich people.
Except that's wrong. It's going to hundreds of people from the lowest level PA to a highest paid actor. And I can't watch a movie for free, unless if I pirate. There's a huge difference and you know it. You can easily watch someone on Twitch for free. And did you compare watching something to buying sneakers? I need shoes/sneakers, I don't need to watch someone game. Not everyone is buying the rarest of Nikes.
donate at least $250 to get your name etched in my wifes gucci bag
Yeah, dude just wiggled out of a Mixer contract and walked away with $30million + all the subs/donations he got there.
Is it zero cost? Perhaps if you consider time worthless. I don't know enough about him to say for sure, but I would be confident to guess that he puts a fair bit of effort into being a good streamer. There are millions of kids who'd love to be earning what he earns for playing video games, but they aren't. Clearly he does something right that most can't replicate, and has a talent for what he does. He wouldn't hit the viewer and subscriber numbers that he does, and MS wouldn't have thrown millions at him to jump ship to their platform if he didn't have something going on, regardless of whether we recognise it or not.
He's in the business of entertainment and people clearly find him entertaining, and are happy to pay to be entertained by him.
The difference here is he already has an established following of 24 million subscribers on YouTube.
I just hit play and saw what I'm assuming is his wife in the background pouring Dom Perignon for them lol