Nintendo didnt pay to delay the pc version, the switch version was always going to launch 1st, Nintendo just paid to delay the existence of the pc version until later
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Apparently Sony paid for Monster Hunter Worlds time exclusivity & blocked crossplay [Claim unsubstantiated]
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If this is about Bethesda, they wanted to become part of a bigger company and it could have gone so much worse. Imagine Stadia for example.
Timed exclusivity is keeping games off other platforms while providing zero benefit to your own customers, aka everybody loses except the platform holder/publisher getting paid for the deal.
A plastic box shouldn't have your loyalty like this. Move on man.
Timed exclusivity I can understand, at this point it's just what you expect with big games that aren't historically multiplatform. Disabling cross-save/crossplay is an objectively smart business decision on their part although yes, it is morally a pretty scummy and creatively bankrupt idea that some asshole finance person thought up as their way of getting up the ladder. Unless you're sitting on some Sony stock, you gain absolutely nothing from this.
Like a lot of Game Pass holders will directly benefit a little from a studio acquisition, but even then it's with mixed feelings regarding consolidation and potentially reducing competition. No one can shamelessly cheer for this bullshit.
Also worth noting that this might be the way Sony can softly disable crossplay, by pushing the blame onto the developer that they paid to not implement the feature.
Like a lot of Game Pass holders will directly benefit a little from a studio acquisition, but even then it's with mixed feelings regarding consolidation and potentially reducing competition. No one can shamelessly cheer for this bullshit.
Also worth noting that this might be the way Sony can softly disable crossplay, by pushing the blame onto the developer that they paid to not implement the feature.
Generally speaking about the whole Asia region, isn't PC the number one platform? I assumed that's part of the reason MS is unifying the Xbox and PC platforms and putting their content on Steam.
Meh, timed exclusivity is lame, sure, but just business. What's actually a bit scummy is Sony paying off Capcom to not implement cross-play and cross-save, but luckily Sony seems to have moved on from being the roadblock for the cross-platform future.
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They can both be true - it can be because of the backend, but that can also be because Sony wouldn't let them enable crossbuy.
Considering Nintendo getting Monster Hunter 3U exclusivity for the 3DS is probably what killed the Vita, I'm not sure anyone's learned anything new here.
I'm getting the impression Capcom makes sure a platform holder pays for some sort of exclusivity before they release a Monster Hunter, and that they don't have any trouble finding a deal.
Are you trying to say that Capcom has not been working on the PC version since Nintendo paid them to? That it really doen't exist at all until further notice? It kinda comes down to the same result from the way you are phrasing it.
It really isn't. It's a shitty business practice and it'd be better for all gamers if it didn't happen. It's the one thing in the industry I absolutely cannot stand.
Show your strengths on what your product offers not what you can deny through short term anti consumer contracts.
Not a surprise and also not really impactful. Worlds PC launch was not smooth and stable, it would've been out in the same state in the same timeframe regardless of Sony paying for it.
No cross play and cross saves? Now that, that makes me sad. Hoping Rise does but I expect nothing.
No cross play and cross saves? Now that, that makes me sad. Hoping Rise does but I expect nothing.
Further Monster Hunter: Rise Details leak regarding Exclusivity, Money-Exchange (200M Yen/6MO), PC-Tech-Requirements, & need for Dog petting marketing
PC Stuff: https://pastebin.com/Ekn0b5Dn Bonus: Nice to see these kinda deals surface to be honest. Well since everythign is removed, Nintendo paid Capcom around 6M USD for 9 months of exclusitivity, they could have paid more for a permanent one.
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they just paid to delay the announcement of the pc version by a few months. the PC release was always going to come later.
Exactly. I'm sure they're already working out a deal again for the next MH release. Their model of getting other companies to foot the bill seems to be working out just fine for them.
Rise was always a switch game, the pc port was added later but wasent day and date, Nintendo paid to have the announcement and marketing while they keep the pc version under wraps a bit longer
They're saying they delayed the announcement of the PC version, not the launch as was confirmed in the last few series of leaks.
have this same energy for MS and Nintendo. They all do this. I'm shocked to see so many "offended"
They're sayin what I said in my above post, that the payment for the delay is roughly nothing thanks to the PC version almost certainly launching around the same timeframe regardless. It's not finished and just sitting around for a year, basically. For both Rise and World ofc, though different scenarios.
I think it's cute that people truly believe that Capcom pivoted the MH series to 3DS arbitrarily and definitely weren't influenced by money exchanging hands with Nintendo.
The difference is irrelevant, really. Nintendo paid Capcom to stop people from potentially choosing to buy the game on PC instead of the Switch.
What? No im saying they kept the pc announcement hidden but then the leak happened
I feel like we've also overlooked the issue of MS "the game pass" here :p This seems intriguing. MHW was one of the first big 3rd party titles on Game Pass - and it came much much sooner than we expected. It was, at least for me, the first taste of 'woah.. this could be bigger than anyone thought'. To now see that Capcom not only had to inform SIE of the game pass deal, but "clear" it in some way (likely just against their marketing commitments, rather than like Sony could torpedo the deal) is REALLY interesting.
I wonder if this indicates that Sony didn't think much of Game Pass at this time (being much more focused on sales, clearly) or didn't think it was worthwhile to fight either way. To me, though, I think it's pretty clear that there has been plenty of time for Sony to know what was coming [which makes it hard to believe anyone arguing that Sony didn't take Game Pass into account when they signed MLB].
I do wonder when Capcom actually made the deal with MS in relation to when they made deals with Sony. And I wonder how and if that's changed as Game Pass has matured.
(And if Sony did pay to keep cross-save away, that sucks).
Notes from an internal meeting that took place on March 15, 2019.
To be fair, both PC announcements were prior to either World or Rise's launch. Though I agree, there is so far no difference between Rise and World's exclusivity deals and impacts are about the same. Stilllll holding hope for cross play or at least saves....
Timed exclusivity is gross but it is what it is. blocking cross-save and cross platform play is both disgusting and completely anti-consumer.
OP really should have made the thread about cross-play/cross-save. the exclusivity part is not very significant, and is common practice.
Not remembering the leak right now, but i believe Capcom would be capable to release both console and PC versions at the same time if they wanted to. Didn't the leak say something like Nintendo could have bought full switch exclusivity but chose this current aproach instead because money?
I don't get too worried about timed exclusives because I don't particularly care if I play a game 6-12 months after original release. I sure would never buy into a platform to play one of these games early though. I've waited out epic store too.
What a statement while cheering for games being denied to other platforms for possibly forever by buying developers/publishers. How would you feel if Sony outright buys Capcom and never released their games on other platforms? Is it better for all gamers then?
I'll admit that to my knowledge, the PC version came a lot later in development and the game was originally planned as a Switch exclusive.
Sure, Nintendo didn't pay to delay that version but the fact that they paid Capcom to delay any mention of it so that people wouldn't forego the Switch version speaks volumes.
Apparently the PC port wasn't added until well into development, so day and date was never on the table. And I don't think what you're saying was part of the leak, no.
Discouraging platform switching (from their perspective) actually makes sense. You keep the player invested in your ecosystem this the wider casual market has a harder time deciding "is it right to switch? I have so many games that I can play on this"
Sunk-cost
This feels off to me. In all my dealings with PC they've never regarded it as a competing platform. Granted, I work with much smaller titles but it's like... not even on the radar
The problem then lies with every other game that does have cross play though.
what's the sense of doing it if the biggest games (COD/Fortnite) have it?
Day & Date release is literally one of options discussed between nintendo & capcom. So it was literally on the table.
But... that's... what exclusivity is. As far as we know, specifically from factual leaks, a PC release has been in the plans since at *least* 2019 if not 2018, or more, for Rise. It's exactly what Sony did, both companies paid for exclusivity.
Regardless, I will say it doesn't matter in the end - both titles wouldn't have launched simultaneously on PC, both titles had Capcom get paid for exclusivity for a duration, and for now we know that Sony at least paid for no crossplay/cross-saves, and have no idea about Nintendo though its likely the same.
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