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CDPR: Cyberpunk 2077 will still have "some very occasional" 3rd person cutscenes
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Curious as to why they'd put all that effort into a character creator if the player isn't going to see them for more than a few minutes in the final product.
I'm not too bothered by this, though it's a little weird that this is how we're finding out about it. Unless it's a miscommunication somehow.
I'm not sure how suddenly removing a feature they've been working on stops them wasting resources.
Yes. While I'm sure CD Projekt Red would do a much better job with that dichotomy but it always creates a major disconnect for me.
Dayum lots of people in here need more variety in their gaming habits.
First, third, whatever I just want to play that shit
First, third, whatever I just want to play that shit
I wouldn't say any of those completely stick the landing at all
Godon isn't even a character, the best CoD narrative (Infinite Warfare ) has third person cutscenes, and not seeing Booker actually interact with Liz is a huge detriment to Bioshock Infinte's story
It's a first person role playing game, those are the ways you'd naturally see yourself in first person.
Even if you didn't though, character creation still adds to the role playing experience by getting to make your own appearance. Kind of like how choosing between "No thank you." or "Fuck no!" in a dialogue tree would lead to the same result, but is still a good to have multiple choices for the sake of role playing.
you are likely going to see the character in reflections, mirrors
Why make such a heavy feature in the first place if you're barley gonna be able to appreciate it?
I'm totally on board with the game being 1st person, it totally makes sense, especially as a Deus Ex fan.
But I would have liked some 3rd person cutscenes considering the cinematography that we saw from the 48 minute demo was actually damn good.
Though like someone else said in this thread, maybe they really are looking to implement full VR down the road.
But I would have liked some 3rd person cutscenes considering the cinematography that we saw from the 48 minute demo was actually damn good.
Though like someone else said in this thread, maybe they really are looking to implement full VR down the road.
Here's the interview where Mike Pondsmith said that all the roles from the original game would be in 2077
The original 9 roles were:
Rockerboy, Solo, Netrunner, Techie, Media, Cops, Corporate, Fixers and Nomads
Obviously the game was heavily revamped around 2016/7 or so and they axed a lot of the non-combat roles. Call me naive, call it feature creep on their part, but there's certainly been a disappointing amount of cuts regarding this game to get it to run on the 8th gen consoles and ship it in a decent amount of time.
I'm fine with this. I like how immersive they're going for. Like you can look down and see V's body, so wearing new gear or clothes will have a cool immersive element to it. I'm fine with only seeing the character in mirrors, menus and car stuff.
You're not alone, this kind of games are pure perfection on first person, 3rd person ruins completely the inmersion.
I'm sorry you don't like those, but the previous poster was intimating that no such thing exists. And the quality of each is up for interpretation.
Is there other game that let you make a character in details without gender restrictions?
Seems like a waste if you never see them.
Yeah still not interested. I don't care about any of this "immersion" nonsense I want to see my character who I'm supposedly supposed to put a lot of care into for more then five minutes total of what I imagine is supposed to be a very meaty game.
Gonna wait for a sale now.
Maybe this is a generational thing. I grew up playing FPS games and loved the immersion of that perspective, and find it hard to feel connected to characters from a third-person perspective, in the same way I didn't feel like I was the character in 2d games.
I didn't mind the third-person cinematics, but it feels like an out-of-body experience when a FPS game does that so I don't feel any big loss if they're removed.
While you can't be a journalist, the devs confirmed that you can do a pacifist run through the game, and it will actually change the narrative which I find cool.
I didn't mind the third-person cinematics, but it feels like an out-of-body experience when a FPS game does that so I don't feel any big loss if they're removed.
While you can't be a journalist, the devs confirmed that you can do a pacifist run through the game, and it will actually change the narrative which I find cool.
Followed this game for 6 years and it's disappointing reading about the cuts to make launch. No more apartments and no more tpp cutscenes.
Don't get me wrong, I like first person perspective in RPGs like Deus Ex, Fallout, TES etc. but you have to give people at least something. It's the small things like cutscenes when you actually see that you're more than a pair of hands glued to a camera. I appreciated how the gameplay side was handled in Rainbow Six: Vegas for example.
Also, those first person cutscenes always take me back to Call of Duty and how goofy everything was set up, so it accommodates the shortcomings of fpp. Hell even Kingdom Come did that right... at least something.
Also, those first person cutscenes always take me back to Call of Duty and how goofy everything was set up, so it accommodates the shortcomings of fpp. Hell even Kingdom Come did that right... at least something.
I'm ok with this. The game already looked to be like 90 percent in FPP so it makes sense to cut the rest of TPP out and focus on FPP only. Having TPP would just take me out of the immersion after spending so much time and interacting with everyone in FPP.
I guess we'll just see our character by looking down, in mirrors/reflections and on cameras, which would make me appreciate those moments even more.
I guess we'll just see our character by looking down, in mirrors/reflections and on cameras, which would make me appreciate those moments even more.
Between Jackie and Johnny Silverhand I was wondering if they were going to do the first-person storytelling on thing of putting the emotive weight on the secondary character's shoulders (Alyx Vance, Captain Price), them kind of becoming the protagonists of the story.
I'm don't expect the issue of feeling like a floating camera after the 15 minute demo. There seemed to be quite a lot of personality in your choices. Modifications will likely appear in your vision or in you hands. Clothing hopefully will matter more in how the world reacts to you, than in needing to see it yourself.
I'm don't expect the issue of feeling like a floating camera after the 15 minute demo. There seemed to be quite a lot of personality in your choices. Modifications will likely appear in your vision or in you hands. Clothing hopefully will matter more in how the world reacts to you, than in needing to see it yourself.
I noticed in the recent gameplay trailer that it seemed like there were about 6 hairstyles (probably 12 for both genders).
If this change is legit then clearly it's a change that came late in development. Based on the footage last year they were going for 3rd person cut scenes and something has happened in the time since that forced them to change, they'd already invested a lot of time and resources into the customisation so they're not going to just cut all that.
But also I still appreciate having it there and I'm sure plenty of others will. If they didn't have any customisation odds are we'd be stuck as a white dude, at least now there's opportunity for people to create a character that they feel is more representative of themselves.
People talking about "immersion" but if that was the case why even have 3rd person for vehicles.
They should go all the way and have everything in first person only.
LOL, you clearly dreamt too big. In how many games can you play a variety of characters, each with its own job, storyline, npcs, etc?
Videogames are still decades away from tabletop games flexibility.
Ehhh. I doubt I would even notice.
Shame that this deprives people who really wanted it though.
I think I agree with what has been said earlier: it is quite likely that SOME third person features will be released as part of post-go live support.
Shame that this deprives people who really wanted it though.
I think I agree with what has been said earlier: it is quite likely that SOME third person features will be released as part of post-go live support.
Yup. All the possible roles had me super excited for the combat possibilities and Role-play styles. But after the last combat trailer, i could not give a shit about the combat. The stealth seems half assed, and all the focus seems to be in shooting shit in slow motion.
It's really interesting reading other people's perspectives on this, particularly from the folks who feel first person is more immersive for them, because i've personally never felt the floating arms and weapons of first person games that are rarely positioned where they should actually be on an actual person are all that immersive.
Yup, going to miss that a lot. Hopefully main event still has 3rd person camera.A LOT of people seem to have trouble coming to terms with the fact that they're buying a first person shooter RPG. That said, shame because the direction of the cutscenes, dialogue aside, looked good with some really neat cinematography, pacing, and details like V's eyes lighting up when she answered a phone call. Along with some good transitions to first person.
was looking forward to seeing more of that in the final game.
It is naive. This probably happens with every big game. Tons of stuff ends on the cutting room floor because the game can't just remain in dev forever. The real problem was revealing the game too early.
You're gonna wanna play this on an RTX card so you can see your dude in every single shiny surface.
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