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Apex Legends |OT| You kill me, you're better. I kill you, I'm better.
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True but here's one way they could have good synergy - Lifeline drops her care package out in the open and Gibraltar could pop his shield around the care package so you don't get picked off grabbing the loot. Stuff like this.
Unless I understand you wrong here, TTK in Apex is very high compared to other BR games, and with a lot.
Compare to Overwatch then true.
Yeah this, that's why I've started splitting off if the intended drop point is stupid
EDIT: especially if you can see other teams landing there before you
Yeah I played some Blackout after playing Apex and forgot how unbelievably fast you die. It was shocking actually. I also really missed my knockdown shield from Apex.
explains why it's buttery smooth, actually.
just snatched another dub with my shotgun.
but to be fair, it was at that point in the game. the circle was about as small as it could be and it was time for fast to face knuckles. no other weapon is appropriate at that point, and if you failed to prepare by having a short-range weapon available, you deserve what's coming to ya.
Definitely, it just doesn't fit into the Overwatch mold
Yeah I don't think the meta revolves around skills because of that, sure some legends like Pathfinder can have a different playstyle, but the core mechanic is still shooting, outmaneuvering, looting etc. so that the the three archetypes of Overwatch don't fit, and I was comparing the TTK of Apex to Overwatch (or you could even compare it to some ability heavy games like Paragon or LOL)
Personally I'm very optimistic about this game's feature. The roadmap they have seems to show they have the means and the tools to deliver meaningful content updates in a timely manner. It doesn't have to change up the game twice a game like Fortnite, but a couple interesting additions per month would suffice, or even a major update at the end of each season. EA and Respawn (the Apex team, anyway) have enough money and manpower to properly dedicate to this project, whereas something like Blackout is predictably harder to support as it's already like 1/4th of the entire game (there's multiplayer, Zombies, etc.), and plus they are already likely in full force on the next COD game as well, as Activision doesn't currently think of COD games as 5-10 years products like Overwatch, Siege, Rocket League and the likes. I think this could truly be the polished triple-A well supported BR experience we've all been waiting for, let's hope they don't screw something up in the process.
My personal wishlist:
- QoL changes like a replay system, killcams, being able to keep your team of randoms after a match, etc.
- different maps rotating like in PUBG instead of only one map slowly evolving like in Fortnite or Blackout
- more classes, weapons, skins, etc. - we know these are coming
- I can live with the game not offering solo modes and such, but I'd at least like a Mercenary playlist in which it's impossible to team up: everyone gets random teammates
- limited time game modes like in Fortnite, eg. a 30v30 mode, maybe one where a player (or a small amount of them) spawns with a Titan and others team up agains that, etc.
- an improved inventory - it's already great in many ways, but Blackout currently handles looting dead people's loot better
- bit of extra options for screwing around like a training ground for any class, private matches, etc.
I bolded what I'd most like to see in particular. What do you guys think?
My personal wishlist:
- QoL changes like a replay system, killcams, being able to keep your team of randoms after a match, etc.
- different maps rotating like in PUBG instead of only one map slowly evolving like in Fortnite or Blackout
- more classes, weapons, skins, etc. - we know these are coming
- I can live with the game not offering solo modes and such, but I'd at least like a Mercenary playlist in which it's impossible to team up: everyone gets random teammates
- limited time game modes like in Fortnite, eg. a 30v30 mode, maybe one where a player (or a small amount of them) spawns with a Titan and others team up agains that, etc.
- an improved inventory - it's already great in many ways, but Blackout currently handles looting dead people's loot better
- bit of extra options for screwing around like a training ground for any class, private matches, etc.
I bolded what I'd most like to see in particular. What do you guys think?
Ya, the game is filled with little qol details like that. The game should be getting awards for stuff like this.
I really want that, that's the only time I boot up Fortnite basically, when they do TDM or 50vs50. I also had the idea that they could do a 30vs30 where respawns are limited to your team's respawn points and people fight to conquer them and stop each other from respawing (which is similar to Ut2k4's Onslaught)
The concept of DPS is kinda lost in Apex Legends, because everyone uses the same weapons, has the same health, etc., and relatively few abilities concentrate on damaging, if anything what's there is a way to lure people out. In Overwatch you have weapons or abilities that take down the enemies in a fraction of a second regardless of their health, nothing of the sort here. I think a healer is practically a necessity, the rest is up to the individual playstyles. A defense class maybe to cast some shields, but other than that it's wide open in terms of options. I like having a recon, I absolutely adore playing as one too, but I don't feel that it's necessary to have one. The same goes for assault classes: they have useful abilities but none of them are mandatory in the meta as of now imho.
Has anyone experienced an issue where Origin shows certain friends as being offline when they aren't?
Yes, that's a very smart detail. If I'm stacked up with purples I don't even bother looking at anything below.
Yeah I guess I'm just thinking that DPS in Apex would anyone that can flank well (wraith) or their abilities would be more skewed towards getting damage like Bangalore's ult, etc.
I actually think the next few heros should be tank and healer based since we only really have one of each right now.
Thank you for the tip. I checked again and my kills are indeed tied to the character I got them with.
Playing on the PC, I get quite a lot of disconnects, mostly at the end of the match when I return to the lobby.
The problem with finding useful loot needs to be addressed quick. Getting killed while running around barehanded is not fun.
Finally got my first win last night!
Killed 6 people total, five in the first two-three minutes (!) and the last one in the match. Teammate was the star, thought, killing 9 people total and being aggressive and leading the way. I managed to stay around, healing once in a while and scouting and pinging enemies. Other teammate got 3 kills.
When the team "clicks", the game is really awesome.
Killed 6 people total, five in the first two-three minutes (!) and the last one in the match. Teammate was the star, thought, killing 9 people total and being aggressive and leading the way. I managed to stay around, healing once in a while and scouting and pinging enemies. Other teammate got 3 kills.
When the team "clicks", the game is really awesome.
Yeah, it's one of the many awesome details this game has. It's insane how many little things they added that, in hindsight, seem obvious as hell, and yet other BR games don't have it yet:
- the advanced pinging
- the coloured death boxes based on what is the highest rarity item inside
- dropping together with one player controlling everyone
- the automatic management of attachments
- being able to ping your inventory to ask for specific stuff rather than messing around in a chat wheel
- your character automatically running in the direction you were pressing if you open the inventory while running
- the hit numbers popping up when you hit a player being coloured based on what armor level they have
- the game automatically telling you if the item you see on the ground is better than what you have or not, and not letting you pick it up automatically if it's not
- same goes for ammo, it shows if you have a weapon for said ammo or not
Nearly all these things sound like advanced features a game implements after months or years of intense playing by the millions of players. And yet they figured all this out in their internal (or very limited invitational) testing. Incredible stuff. And it makes it damn hard to go back to other BR games where none of these awesome QoL features are in. Good luck next time with randoms in Fortnite with everyone flying somewhere else. Good luck comunicating properly in PUBG without a headset. Good luck adding and taking off attachments in Blackout.
From my personal experience, a good Lifeline and Bangalore is all you need to consistently win, any other character is a plus, but doesn't matter at all.
The game favors an aggressive playstyle, especially if you have weapons that can consistently dish out big damage, if your shots are on point at close range - Peacemaker, Wingman, Spitfire.
Combined with Bangalore's smokes/missiles and Lifeline's revive shield, you can really get up close and personal with the enemy. Smokes to provide cover, fake rushes and whatnot, missiles to push the enemy into cover and then the other person charging in because no friendly fire, then retreating for a sec to revive the 3rd player while getting covered by the shield.
My friend and I have consistently been on a 5:1 w:l ratio the last two days since we started this combo. Consistently getting 15-20 kill games.
The 3rd person is usually some level 2 or 3 who runs off and learns the game at their own pace, so for us it's always a 2v3v3..etc.
e: Bangalore's passive speed boost is a game changer too. Enemy throws a grenade at you to push you back while they heal up/charge shields? Well, you just got a speed boost and can literally charge in with a shotgun before they even realize what's happening.
Exactly. And you brought up a point that I forgot to mention - swapping a sight to a different gun takes the press of one button. Boom. So fast. In Blackout you have to detach or drop, pull up your other gun and then attach the new sight.
Where are you? Im in South Africa playing on EU servers with like 160+ ping and its extremely playable
The auto transfer of attachments that fit the new gun is probably one of my favorite parts about this game. It makes everything so quick and simple.
Finally managed our first two wins tonight after numerous second places. The really rapid SMG is my go-to. Some of the weapons just seem plain junk compared to others.
Look at teammate's kills and level in the loading screen and set your expectations accordingly.
If they have less than 10 kills or less than 10 levels, they have no idea what they're doing yet. Expect failure and if you're the jumpmaster, try to get them someplace where other players won't be because they'll get shit on if they drop in a populated spot.
Great strategy here for sure. I will try this with my squad today. If you can believe it, I haven't even tried Bangalore yet. I've been running Mirage and his decoy is very very effective in team fights. His ult during the end game is very helpful too. I had a couple of really good long range players on my team yesterday and we were in a sniper battle with another team. I kept popping my decoy and having it run into an empty field in the middle of us and every single time the enemy sniper would shoot at it revealing their position.
Here's hoping EA are able to take the Fortnite approach and charge 1000 Apex Coins or less for the battle pass, and include 1000+ earnable Apex Coins throughout the whole thing. If you keep people in your game, they're far more likely to spend money.
This game is pretty fun and fresh but I liked the TTK and weapons in blackout better at this point. I'd say about 75% of the guns in the game aren't even worth picking up, even in the early game, while in Blackout I won a game with just the semi-auto pistol (strife) because it actually does damage comparative to the enemy health. The elements surrounding the gun game are really good though. The UI, inventory management, pings, dialogue, and all that are super cool. Like armor in blackout, I don't know if I even care to have shields/armor in these games, just makes the fights a chore. I know they probably won't change something that substantial though.
Depends if I have a lot of friend in my friends list or not. I add people and delete some constantly.
this is most likely a server related issue or even just a origin client side issue. Considering that 4m+ play a day. I wouldn't be surprised if EA's server are under heavy load. A quick origin patch might even solve the issue. Who knows.
I've actually had 3 matches like that today LOL. It's annoying when I have to waste my breathe to remind people of things like "HEY PING IT IF YOU DON'T NEED I MIGHT WANT".... shit get's tiring after awhile. But my first 10 were well. Second game ever I got a win. But sorry your last 10 sucked
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Aye, I know that feeling for Bangalore. Trinity (a healing-based character) is all I play in Warframe, so I just instantly gravitated to Lifeline here. Currently sitting at about 270 kills I think, a couple other characters I tried add up to like 10 or so.
That sniper tactic sounds neat, we also have our way of dealing with them - I like big guns when my friend's got the Peacemaker, so I just suppress and get all the aggro with the Spitfire, he gets the speed boost while being near me as they fire at me and then just charges right in.
Or, when I'm feeling extra good and he's got a Longbow - I literally just charge in with a Wingman while he smokes and provides overwatch.
I love how many ways of dealing with situations there are in this.
Sorry, I disagree about the weapons. I've won two matches with just using the basic semi-auto pistol. Good usage of the grenades and a steady hand aiming for headshots rocks.
The only weapon I've not used past the first round is the auto shotgun, that's one weapon I don't like the feel of.
I can't say much about the armor though from the receiving end. I always make sure to keep it full, so I don't know how it feels to be without it in fights.
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Is there a level up reward list? I'm 22 now but got no loot box, is this the area where you don't get them every level anymore?
This is the first BR game that has captured my attention. The movement and gunplay feel basically perfect to me and I love how the game stresses team play and MY GOD the ping system was sent straight from heaven hahaha
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