Yeah, it was the same for me a few months ago. Stacking videogames but only playing gachas because i had dailies to finish. Just stick to one gacha game. It's more than enough.
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Anyone else trapped in service/mmo/gacha game hell? Spending 2+ hrs a day doing 'dailies' for all of them. That adds up.
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what are v buck dailies? I only know of vbucks from battle pass level rewards 1-100
That's why I only play 1 GaaS/mmo at a time. Back in FFXIV days, it could take me 1.5-2.5 hrs to do daily. Right now with Genshin if I rush it I can complete dailies in 45 mins. Fortunately I never feel the need to rush in Genshin. The game is chill as fck.
Could never get into those games personally.
But boy do I waste a lot of time on social media and this forum lol.
But boy do I waste a lot of time on social media and this forum lol.
I've never been enticed by this stuff really it actually puts me off of most games that do this. Reaching "limits" of what I can do during my gameplay sessions is usually something that makes me instantly not want to play anymore.
I definitely understand the dopamine hit of getting things in gachas but the present mechanics of limitation do nothing for me and I don't feel fomo. Securing a PS5 close to launch is another case though definitely felt the FOMO for that lol.
I definitely understand the dopamine hit of getting things in gachas but the present mechanics of limitation do nothing for me and I don't feel fomo. Securing a PS5 close to launch is another case though definitely felt the FOMO for that lol.
The only game I'm doing dailies in right now is Tales of Crestoria, but there are plenty of other mobile games I still feel the need to log into every day to collect login bonuses. I really wish I had the will power to just delete all of them. I feel noticeably more free if I take a break from gacha games but I always come crawling back.
100% agree on this one.
Time is so precious and all of us will be dead someday. If you're going to spend it playing video games, make sure to play ones that actually give you moment to moment enjoyment rather than tax you with tedium and obligation.
The last thing you should be doing is playing a video game out of obligation.
I just stopped playing Apex this season, and so far have completed Death Stranding, Ori and the Blind Forest, and played Hades.
Thinking about just uninstalling Apex at this point lol, as much as I enjoy it, at some point playing some of the GAAS games just makes me feel like I'm playing something mindless and meaningless (not discounting the quality of the games themselves, just the general feeling that GAAS has started to give me).
Thinking about just uninstalling Apex at this point lol, as much as I enjoy it, at some point playing some of the GAAS games just makes me feel like I'm playing something mindless and meaningless (not discounting the quality of the games themselves, just the general feeling that GAAS has started to give me).
I mainly just do it to cap tomes if there's something I want, but my server also has a pretty cool Hunt community, so I don't really mind joining them, lol.
The best advice I can give to newer XIV players or those who aren't at endgame yet is that endgame really is just what you make of it. Figure out what you want to do and how much time you're willing to put into the game, and then gear up accordingly. If you want to do savage stuff right away, you'll have a larger time commitment. If you just want to do story mode content, you can chill and get a mixture of tome and crafted stuff at your leisure, and jet after your month ends.
a week or two into any given patch, most of what I do after logging in is crafting and fishing without even touching the dailies lol
I got addicted to gacha with Kingdom Hearts Unchained/Union Cross. I paid for convenience but that convenience was fleeting and artificial.
I stopped my habit when I realised how much of a timesink the game was so I ended up giving the account to somebody else for free.
I stopped my habit when I realised how much of a timesink the game was so I ended up giving the account to somebody else for free.
Facts. Funny this thread popped up, I was having this same discussion with a friend the other week and just listening to my friends on PSN talking about "needing" to do their weeklies.
"Oh man, I'm out this weekend. I gotta get my weeklies done by friday.'
Not me, anymore at least
Had to stop playing Pokémon Go because of the travel investment on top of the grind.
Fire Emblem Heroes wasn't a bad daily grind, much more the managing of F2P orb spending and keeping up with the constant power creep, fixing banes/boons. Just couldn't mentally handle it anymore.
Teppen is great fun playing and creating decks, I love it, the daily missions for currency are easy and then just play towards ranking up. It's the most carefree gacha I've experienced, might be harder to catch up starting fresh today, but as a F2P only since launch I'm swimming in currency and can craft or pull anything I want. Except for skins, those are obnoxiously predatory low chance, thankfully I don't care about them.
Fire Emblem Heroes wasn't a bad daily grind, much more the managing of F2P orb spending and keeping up with the constant power creep, fixing banes/boons. Just couldn't mentally handle it anymore.
Teppen is great fun playing and creating decks, I love it, the daily missions for currency are easy and then just play towards ranking up. It's the most carefree gacha I've experienced, might be harder to catch up starting fresh today, but as a F2P only since launch I'm swimming in currency and can craft or pull anything I want. Except for skins, those are obnoxiously predatory low chance, thankfully I don't care about them.
Founders(those who bought in early) for the PvE mode(Save the World) get 1 daily quest assigned every night around 7 PM that rewards between 50 and 100 v-bucks. You can discard/refresh one daily and store up to 3 before you stop getting new ones.
They are simple requests like "kill 300 husks with a shotgun" or "destroy 3 arcade machines."
Was like that for Dota 2
would play 2+ hours a day for like 3 years straight. I spent thousands on the game
but then I decided to quit. I had better stuff to do then waste time playing the same game every day for years
would play 2+ hours a day for like 3 years straight. I spent thousands on the game
but then I decided to quit. I had better stuff to do then waste time playing the same game every day for years
Yes... quite active on all of them really but only spend a limited amount of time max per game. So i'd say maybe 5 hours of game time every week maybe less. Playing FFBE, Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omnia, FF BE WOTV, DX2, and I guess Genshin impact if it counts.
They are all really fun games and I mostly play cause I keep getting lucky but I secretly do hope the servers die sometime... not because I want them to but because it just feels like the right thing to get off these games eventually. I'm pure f2p on all of them and can save gems confidently. As long as i'm not into top level pvp in dx2 and WOTV then i'm fine, imo. I can't help but feel I would have quit long ago if I didn't keep pulling the latest shinies easily.
edit: FFXIV counts I guess. That's probably the game I have the most hours ever on. Not really proud of it lmao. My friend warned me about going down the gacha path but I just cant get away from it. Until it starts actually making me feel really ill then I dont think i'll quit. Oh and I forgot to mention most of these FF games have decent stories for mobile games. I'm quite impressed. Genshin Impact's story is REALLY GOOD
They are all really fun games and I mostly play cause I keep getting lucky but I secretly do hope the servers die sometime... not because I want them to but because it just feels like the right thing to get off these games eventually. I'm pure f2p on all of them and can save gems confidently. As long as i'm not into top level pvp in dx2 and WOTV then i'm fine, imo. I can't help but feel I would have quit long ago if I didn't keep pulling the latest shinies easily.
edit: FFXIV counts I guess. That's probably the game I have the most hours ever on. Not really proud of it lmao. My friend warned me about going down the gacha path but I just cant get away from it. Until it starts actually making me feel really ill then I dont think i'll quit. Oh and I forgot to mention most of these FF games have decent stories for mobile games. I'm quite impressed. Genshin Impact's story is REALLY GOOD
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This was me with Maplestory once upon a time. Having to make sure I devote hours of my life to a game every day is the fucking worst. Games should be fun, not feel like a job. It's one thing to grind for something, but if that thing repeatedly demands that you be online every day, it's not worth it. Ever.
Finally woke up when I saw that this one item I wanted to get would've literally taken one year of me doing the same quest every day to get it for free. Like fuck, I think paying for gacha stuff and the like is never worth it, but my time is far more valuable than that.
Glad I played Maplestory when I was younger, pretty much got that all bullshit out of my system early on. Now I basically look at every gacha and MMO game that try to exploit your time and/or money with complete disgust.
Finally woke up when I saw that this one item I wanted to get would've literally taken one year of me doing the same quest every day to get it for free. Like fuck, I think paying for gacha stuff and the like is never worth it, but my time is far more valuable than that.
Glad I played Maplestory when I was younger, pretty much got that all bullshit out of my system early on. Now I basically look at every gacha and MMO game that try to exploit your time and/or money with complete disgust.
I did 14 while I was playing it since I was already logging in every day to do other things. Now I'll try to do some weeklies with friends if I remember when I log in.
Casually have been doing genshin lately since it's pretty fun and really doesn't take long. Just wish the phone controls were better, so I could more easily do it from my couch haha.
Casually have been doing genshin lately since it's pretty fun and really doesn't take long. Just wish the phone controls were better, so I could more easily do it from my couch haha.
Came in to say basically exactly this. I've stopped playing games I've adored because their focus had shifted to yelling at me that I had daily quests to do.
Service games now feel like I am being punished for not playing them every day. I don't need that in my life.
I currently keep up with Fire Emblem Heroes and Dissidia Opera Omnia, and will go back to AC Pocket Camp once I get a tablet that runs it. None of those games feel particularly grindy to me, though? Like, you can knock out dailies really quick and I never feel pressed to finish events. I like checklist things like that since it at least makes me feel like I'm doing something, even if it's just gacha nonsense. They're enjoyable and I don't spend money in them, so I enjoy the free entertainment that at least gives me minor things to look forward to all the time (like when characters I like get added or get a new weapon or whatever). Probably helps that I often just play them when I'm multi-tasking.
That said, I do quit games once they stop being enjoyable to me. I grew to just dread everything in Final Fantasy Brave Exvius, so I uninstalled. Did the same for SEGA Heroes, even before it died.
That said, I do quit games once they stop being enjoyable to me. I grew to just dread everything in Final Fantasy Brave Exvius, so I uninstalled. Did the same for SEGA Heroes, even before it died.
I've been doing daily challenges in Red Dead Online since launch (currently at 430+ days due to two ISP outages that broke my streaks) to maintain the .5 Gold (MTX currency) per challenge reward.
Oddly, I actually enjoy it because it's an excuse for me to launch Red Dead once a day and just calmly ride around for roughly 10-20 minutes. I do the easiest challenges (collecting plants, cooking, eating, visit a location, etc), sit at Camp for a few minutes then head off.
However, for the past month I'm feeling it's completely useless as I'll be switching from PS4 to Xbox Series X at some point and I highly doubt they'll implement proper cross-progression. I'm currently at 1,100+ Gold. All earned in-game. More than likely all lost after the switch. There's not nearly enough items that I want to spend that amount of Gold on but I can't bring myself to purposely end the streak. Again, I LOVE Red Dead and it's an odd excuse for me to spend 10-20 minutes a day in there, but losing all that time due to buying one box over the other? Starting to make me think "well, fuck it then!"
Oddly, I actually enjoy it because it's an excuse for me to launch Red Dead once a day and just calmly ride around for roughly 10-20 minutes. I do the easiest challenges (collecting plants, cooking, eating, visit a location, etc), sit at Camp for a few minutes then head off.
However, for the past month I'm feeling it's completely useless as I'll be switching from PS4 to Xbox Series X at some point and I highly doubt they'll implement proper cross-progression. I'm currently at 1,100+ Gold. All earned in-game. More than likely all lost after the switch. There's not nearly enough items that I want to spend that amount of Gold on but I can't bring myself to purposely end the streak. Again, I LOVE Red Dead and it's an odd excuse for me to spend 10-20 minutes a day in there, but losing all that time due to buying one box over the other? Starting to make me think "well, fuck it then!"
Yup.
I needed a new podcast game after I decided to put Let it Die on hiatus after having achieved the goals I set myself in that game.
Along came Genshin out of nowhere and I am now doing dailies on two accounts (both f2p) because FOMO. But I feel I'm getting better already and I've actually not bothered some of the days within the last two weeks. Being totally enamoured with Yakuza Like a Dragon certainly helped with reminding me of what a game should be about.
But don't get me wrong, I like me a podcast game and Genshin (especially with the music turned on) is still a pretty chill world to run and jump around in. It's just the repetitive nature of the same old quests that starts to bother me infinitely more than doing material runs on the same floors in Let it Die over and over again (also there all you had to do for dailies was log in, only weeklies required some playing).
It's losing it's grip on me a little but still I guess I'm trapped until I've spent all my currency on a character I wanted with nothing to show in the end, at which point I'll probably rage delete the game and then redownload when there's a new region to explore.
I needed a new podcast game after I decided to put Let it Die on hiatus after having achieved the goals I set myself in that game.
Along came Genshin out of nowhere and I am now doing dailies on two accounts (both f2p) because FOMO. But I feel I'm getting better already and I've actually not bothered some of the days within the last two weeks. Being totally enamoured with Yakuza Like a Dragon certainly helped with reminding me of what a game should be about.
But don't get me wrong, I like me a podcast game and Genshin (especially with the music turned on) is still a pretty chill world to run and jump around in. It's just the repetitive nature of the same old quests that starts to bother me infinitely more than doing material runs on the same floors in Let it Die over and over again (also there all you had to do for dailies was log in, only weeklies required some playing).
It's losing it's grip on me a little but still I guess I'm trapped until I've spent all my currency on a character I wanted with nothing to show in the end, at which point I'll probably rage delete the game and then redownload when there's a new region to explore.
I always find that i lose interest when i get to a point where the gameplay loops is too repetitive, especially as there are so many games that i could be playing. I tend to fall off quickly with mobile games quickly when hitting any kind of paywall. Probably spent most of my time doing dailies on destiny and clash royale, but not been playing either for a while.
Gacha and live-service games are literal poison. Once you realize this entire genre is just a never-ending loop of:
- Dailies and weeklies that, rather than raise your happiness upon completion, make you feel TERRIBLE upon missing them. These are games, why make it into a literal chore?
- Power creep. Good job getting that UR/ new gun. Next update, we're adding a new, better thing because we want people to play more/buy more gems. Congratulations on spending a shit load of gems or grinding it out, I guess?
- Narrative that goes on for fucking forever.
- FOMO for items/characters that gets outdated in a month anyway.
It gets pretty easy to quit cold turkey. That's not to say these games are entirely bad; there can be good facets such as compelling gameplay and a real sense of community progression and discussion. But the mental tax one needs to afford to keep up with just one gacha/live-service, let alone MULTIPLE, is too much.
- Dailies and weeklies that, rather than raise your happiness upon completion, make you feel TERRIBLE upon missing them. These are games, why make it into a literal chore?
- Power creep. Good job getting that UR/ new gun. Next update, we're adding a new, better thing because we want people to play more/buy more gems. Congratulations on spending a shit load of gems or grinding it out, I guess?
- Narrative that goes on for fucking forever.
- FOMO for items/characters that gets outdated in a month anyway.
It gets pretty easy to quit cold turkey. That's not to say these games are entirely bad; there can be good facets such as compelling gameplay and a real sense of community progression and discussion. But the mental tax one needs to afford to keep up with just one gacha/live-service, let alone MULTIPLE, is too much.
I can only do one and it's KHUx/DR. DR is a glorified screensaver. I literally do a raid and a quest in the UX mode and certain events. Otherwise it's auto grinding in DR. I had to let got of evething else.
These are the correct answers. Don't feel bad about getting sucked into the dailies, because that's the game using human psychology against you, but always remember that as soon as something starts to feel like a chore, you can (and probably should) walk away.
Right now it's just DFFOO and One Piece Treasure Cruise, and the dailies for both are super quick.
So far Genshins' the most generous I can think of, where despite feeling pressured to log in for dailies and stuff, it really only adds up over the long term. And the story content doesn't require you to be AR50 or whatever so there's almost exactly 0 pressure to get there asap. It's nice, honestly, being able to just forget and relax without going "oh god my resin capped it's game over"
I have a self-imposed ban on any game where the designers sat down and planned how to get me to play every day or week (except one card game I play on breaks at work).
When I was too deep into that hole I would rush home from work, start playing within a few minutes. Try to squeeze in as much gaming before dinner, then rush back and game until I was tired. That's no life.
When I was too deep into that hole I would rush home from work, start playing within a few minutes. Try to squeeze in as much gaming before dinner, then rush back and game until I was tired. That's no life.
I quit playing Magic on MTG Arena because the grind was way too much. I'd rather just play IRL (not really an option right now but hopefully sometime next year) or MTGO which is running on the most ancient rickety software imaginable but I still prefer that over Arena.
FGO is the best gacha in this regard, you can burn all your AP in about 5 minutes, its great. Theres no nonsense filler like base management or expeditions or pseudo PVP which kills my interest in almost all other gacha.
FGO is the best gacha in this regard, you can burn all your AP in about 5 minutes, its great. Theres no nonsense filler like base management or expeditions or pseudo PVP which kills my interest in almost all other gacha.
I think that kind of daily repetition is mindlessly boring. No idea how people get hooked on something so incredibly dull. I did my time in Burning Crusade back in the day, but anything like that nowadays and my eyes just instantly glaze over.
Yea this is where i'm at - I'm not gonna try and play multiple. One is more than enough and luckily G.I. is super fun and I haven't even thrown much money at it, just 5$ for the daily gems pass.
Jeff ChickenDig, please escape. I beg you. I know you can do this.
I have never experienced this but I know folks who have. Most of them are out now. :P
I have never experienced this but I know folks who have. Most of them are out now. :P
