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Anyone else feel there isn't a "need" for next-gen just yet?
- Thread starter HammerOfThor
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I can't even play PS4 Pro versions of games that I have tried on the Xbox One X solely due to higher resolution, Playing Nier, rdr2 or even Fallout 4 on the pro after the X is as if the character took their prescription glasses off and started walking around, everything is blurry and not as clear.
Loading times and texture pop ins are also killing me. SSD improved the loading times tremendously on my pro but not the pop-ins.
Bring on next gen already. I need all the QOL improvements.
Loading times and texture pop ins are also killing me. SSD improved the loading times tremendously on my pro but not the pop-ins.
Bring on next gen already. I need all the QOL improvements.
Going from PC to PS4 is pretty rough these days. Not so much for visuals, but for the massive load times, pop-in, etc.
I will say it doesn't feel as bad as last gen though. That last year of PS3/360 felt like an eternity.
I will say it doesn't feel as bad as last gen though. That last year of PS3/360 felt like an eternity.
Hell nah. We need next-gen right now. The longer it takes for these consoles to come out the longer cross-gen will last. And after that Unreal 5 demo I am thirsty as fuck for some real next-gen games.
Honestly, until it shows me some games with gameplay that simply wouldn't have been possible this generation, or last generation, then I'm not seeing the need for more triangles.
More triangles are nice, yes, and pretty. But more triangles don't play much of anything. Show me a game that cannot be made now, be it scale, be it interacting with physics, or a different way to play, then you have my attention.
New generations have to earn their upgrade tax for me. Show me something new. So far, nothing yet, but it's early enough that there might be something later.
More triangles are nice, yes, and pretty. But more triangles don't play much of anything. Show me a game that cannot be made now, be it scale, be it interacting with physics, or a different way to play, then you have my attention.
New generations have to earn their upgrade tax for me. Show me something new. So far, nothing yet, but it's early enough that there might be something later.
Sure, we can do another year without next gen. In fact, we actually will do another year or two even with most new games being crossgen and looking mostly like current gen games but with higher res / fps / some additional details. Hence why it's better to start the next gen now - the sooner it'll get to a point where something like GTA6 could be profitable as next gen only game - the better, and for that next gen must be on the market for a couple of years at least.
You've summed up my thoughts better than I could so I'm just going to quote this post.
Every generation change brings the same threads, questions, excitements and doubts. It's very funny for some who has been through a bunch of them.
I didn't buy a ps pro because I didn't feel the need and wanted to be wowed by a proper generation shift, I'm more than ready for next gen to arrive. Haven't been this excited regarding gaming in years.
I didn't buy a ps pro because I didn't feel the need and wanted to be wowed by a proper generation shift, I'm more than ready for next gen to arrive. Haven't been this excited regarding gaming in years.
There is a need but so far it feels like there won't be much of a jump. Just fast load times. We already have great detail, great lighting, and infinite world sizes this gen. We already have great smoke and reflections. Improvements in these areas are very low impact. Advanced physics and AI are the next frontier, any it would appear the big players are not interested in the R&D necessary for this. Maybe the hardware isn't there yet.
I expect the cross gen phase to last way longer this gen and in the end we'll see some new experiences from the indie scene kinda like how No Man's Sky and Minecraft came out.
I expect the cross gen phase to last way longer this gen and in the end we'll see some new experiences from the indie scene kinda like how No Man's Sky and Minecraft came out.
The X didn't even make me feel like I was content with this gen. Time to let it rest in peace.
lol
While great looking games are still releasing, the systems are starting to show their age in all the limitations that are plain to see. It's even limiting game design at this point. Let us move on, please. We don't need more pretty games with loading sections disguised as squeezing through a crack in the wall.
i mean...sort of?
but i only say this because we had the PS4 pro and XB1X. i maintain that it was a mistake to have these midrange consoles appear. they took away from the excitement of seeing a proper generational leap with the ps5/xboxwhatevertheyrecallingit
but i only say this because we had the PS4 pro and XB1X. i maintain that it was a mistake to have these midrange consoles appear. they took away from the excitement of seeing a proper generational leap with the ps5/xboxwhatevertheyrecallingit
I think the jump from PS4 to PS5 is wayyy more exciting then the jump from PS3 to PS4.
It may take a while to manifest why it matters to the consumer so much, but developing for it is a complete different way of thinking of things (from raytracing to having a SSD in every system)
It may take a while to manifest why it matters to the consumer so much, but developing for it is a complete different way of thinking of things (from raytracing to having a SSD in every system)
Somewhat, but mainly because I feel like my experience with a PS5/XSX will be very similar to my experiences with a One X. The tech bump is cool, and the games will look better, but will the games actually be worth playing right away? Will the games actually be better, quality-wise? I'm not sure. The beginning of this gen was truly terrible, after all...
with the current technology being released. Studio's are making their engines adapt to old hardware while seamlessly being able to adapt to new gen hardware making games look completely new (if that makes sense?).
I can see PS4 & X ONE holding on another 4-5 years tops. Developers did a great job preserving their games entertainment wise. Especially with Sony investing a lot in their I.T infrastructure to keep their old games alive.
I can see PS4 & X ONE holding on another 4-5 years tops. Developers did a great job preserving their games entertainment wise. Especially with Sony investing a lot in their I.T infrastructure to keep their old games alive.
I just want to ask what is this line of thinking lol? I mean I understand the opposite, but why would a pandemic make you realize you want a new game console?
Been feeling like that for a while. Solidified by today's UE5 demo, I'm just not impressed by the jump. Diminishing returns and all that I guess.
Won't be getting any next gen console until there's exclusive stuff that I find super appealing, which is a rarity for me with modern triple A games.
Won't be getting any next gen console until there's exclusive stuff that I find super appealing, which is a rarity for me with modern triple A games.
Nah. Playing Control and Jedi Fallen Order on current gen was pretty convincing that it is time for next gen.
Lol said it right before me
I've never once felt there was a "need" in any generation (and I think the only game system I ever bought near launch was the DS), but when enough people want and profit is there, the market follows.
Yeah I didn't really care a ton beforehand since I only bought about 2-3 games a year the past few years but now that I have the free time to play more, I'm so ready to move on.
The 360 and PS3 really struggled to run certain games at the end of last gen. It kinda started with Far Cry 3 where I really started to see the systems slow down but it became really apparent with GTA5 the next year.
Agreed OP, but the issue for me is my limited gaming time due to adult life. There is so much stuff in the PS4, Switch, PS3 3DS and Wii U library that I want to go back and play.. that I don't even care for next gen at this point. It will probably take me 3 years or so until I decide to get a PS5.
Graphically? Yeah I think it's fine right now.
It's all the other shit - a fast ui, quick loading and logins, And some other stuff I'm forgetting. Things are far from smooth right now. The less I can look at my phone while playing a game the better.
It's all the other shit - a fast ui, quick loading and logins, And some other stuff I'm forgetting. Things are far from smooth right now. The less I can look at my phone while playing a game the better.
there's never a need for any of this stuff
but it's been enough time and tech has moved far enough along that I am more than ready to see another jump like this. and with how games usually trend during the cycle of hardware, I cant even imagine what we'll be seeing on ps5 in 3-4 years. hot damn.
but it's been enough time and tech has moved far enough along that I am more than ready to see another jump like this. and with how games usually trend during the cycle of hardware, I cant even imagine what we'll be seeing on ps5 in 3-4 years. hot damn.
Also keep in mind this was a unique generation in the sense that both these companies offered significant upgrades to their systems that many people bought. I don't have a pro or an Xbox one, but maybe if I did I would feel more that way.
I'm also older (36) and remember being hyped for the N64/PS2 launch (had Nes and Genesis but to young to know about upcoming things then). I don't get nearly as excited as I used to for new console generations but still excited.
I certainly don't "need" it in the sense that I have a massive backlog as well as plenty of games that I would play again, but I will be buying very close to launch I'm sure.
No, the current console UX is too slow. And file management is outdated.
The graphics still impress me, but everything else around it needs to move forward.
FF7r runs beautifully on Pro
The graphics still impress me, but everything else around it needs to move forward.
FF7r runs beautifully on Pro
Playing mainly on PCs equipped with nvmes and then going back to a PS4, yeah it's needed, and it is mainly SSD related so I'm glad that's a focus.
