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Anyone else annoyed when people insist on using untranslated titles (manga, anime, games) when an official translated name exists?
- Thread starter Kalentan
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It annoys me only because if you were to do this in any language, someone would always say use English.
I don't know if this has come up elsewhere, but Hiroshi Nagahama (animation director for Utena who went on to direct Mushishi and the upcoming Uzumaki adaptation) brought it up in a recent interview.
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Unless the Japanese name has fewer syllables, insisting on calling it by the Japanese name, when a localized alternative exists, just comes off as pretentious.
that's weird though because in english it still means the same thing..revolutionary girl utena means that she is attempting a widespread revolution in individuals, it doesnt have to be relegated to just her.
Perhaps its just japanse not understanding the nuances of english
to be fair...lets be honest we all used to call mirai trunks mirai in the days of geocities and angelfire(late 90s was king)...and SSJ is still an enduring thing ...
Its a case by case basis really on how literal or how good is the translation.
If boku no hero really means My Hero then saying My Hero would be prefer to be said, saying boku no just sound dumb. Or Ougon No Kaze really means Golden Wind then just say Golden Wind.
But in cases like Ruronin Kenshin is called Samurai X then that just dumb to call it Samurai X, just stick to ruronin kenshin. Or Pretty Cure was originally gonna be called Gangnam Girls but thankfully it was changed to Glitter Force which is somewhat acceptable.
Jojo no kimyou no boken really means Bizarre Adventure so just fucking say Jojo's bizzare Adventure.
If boku no hero really means My Hero then saying My Hero would be prefer to be said, saying boku no just sound dumb. Or Ougon No Kaze really means Golden Wind then just say Golden Wind.
But in cases like Ruronin Kenshin is called Samurai X then that just dumb to call it Samurai X, just stick to ruronin kenshin. Or Pretty Cure was originally gonna be called Gangnam Girls but thankfully it was changed to Glitter Force which is somewhat acceptable.
Jojo no kimyou no boken really means Bizarre Adventure so just fucking say Jojo's bizzare Adventure.
Doesn't bother me as long as I know what the other person is talking about.
I usually just use whatever pops into my mind first or I just abbreviate it since my wife knows what I'm talking about.
"Wanna watch Hero?"
"You're god damn right I want to!"
The only exception might be "Kimetsu no Yaiba" because Demon Slayer is the most generic shit title ever and even if it's a direct translation (I don't even know) it doesn't bother me as much because I don't understand Japanese...
I usually just use whatever pops into my mind first or I just abbreviate it since my wife knows what I'm talking about.
"Wanna watch Hero?"
"You're god damn right I want to!"
The only exception might be "Kimetsu no Yaiba" because Demon Slayer is the most generic shit title ever and even if it's a direct translation (I don't even know) it doesn't bother me as much because I don't understand Japanese...
A literal translation of Kimetsu no Yaiba would be something like "Blade of Demon Destruction"
I used what ever is easier .
Truth is i hardly even spell out there names once there is a short hand version .
Truth is i hardly even spell out there names once there is a short hand version .
I use Shingeki no Kyokin over Attack on Titan, mainly because I read the manga the day the chapter comes out and it just feels like the actual title to me by now. Most people just say Shingeki for short I think. Plus it makes more sense as a title in the story, as anime viewers have recently discovered.
lol BUT IT DOES. anyways I aint gonna use the US title just because some internet dudes get annoyed by the actual title!
I say Demon Slayer since its shorter to say. I also find My Hero Academia too long and just refer to it as My Hero lol.
That sounds kinda bad ass but in a slightly dumb way...
I refuse to call it anything else anymore!
that's an interesting example because i bet everyone's just going to call the next one "yakuza 7", a name that won't be official in any country.
I do find it amusing that you can find the same anime referred to as "Aka no Hana," "Les Fleurs Du Mal" or "Flowers of Evil" depending on whether people use the original Japanese title, the title of the French work that the original title is a Japanese translation of, or the English translation of either/both.
While we're in weeb pet peeves, I can't stand using Japanese names of characters when there's n agreed-upon English name. Looking at you, Digimon and Yu-Gi-Oh fans.
While we're in weeb pet peeves, I can't stand using Japanese names of characters when there's n agreed-upon English name. Looking at you, Digimon and Yu-Gi-Oh fans.
He says, "She's not Joan of Arc," so I think the point is that Utena is not an individual attempting a revolution, at least initially. The English title gives you the idea that Utena is a revolutionary just by assuming the role of the prince at the start of the show. Ikuhara (through Nagahama) is saying instead that the story is really about the characters liberating themselves from the paradigms society created for them over the course of the entire show, Utena included.
Not sorry, I will continue calling Precure as Precure, instead of facepalming name Glitter Force that was given to its localization.
I like knowing both names and comparing. It's interesting and helps with my Japanese study.
I default to English when talking to English speakers though because that just makes the most sense.
I default to English when talking to English speakers though because that just makes the most sense.
I don't watch anime or read manga and I don't play games with different titles in different regions, but I use the original names for movies and TV shows. My reasoning being that translated titles are decided after the fact by a marketing department for that territory with no input from the filmmakers/creators. Maybe it's because I went to a high school that offered film classes, but my friends and I all used the original titles when discussing movies and TV shows.
Luckily, movie and TV show titles are increasingly being left in English in France, so this is becoming less of an issue.
Luckily, movie and TV show titles are increasingly being left in English in France, so this is becoming less of an issue.
It doesn't matter to me. I use both depending on the situation.
Like let's take Yakuza for example. Ryu Ga Gotoku is absolutely fine to say, especially since the studio calls themselves the Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio and that's the game series they make. Yakuza is fine to say as well because that's what most westerners know it by.
The only time I think I would take offense to somebody using a certain name is if they were attempting to gatekeep or be elitist.
On the same end, I think it is just as elitist to judge what name people use in relation to a series. So what if a show has an English name. If somebody wants to say Boku no Hero Academia, let them? It doesn't hurt you.
Like let's take Yakuza for example. Ryu Ga Gotoku is absolutely fine to say, especially since the studio calls themselves the Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio and that's the game series they make. Yakuza is fine to say as well because that's what most westerners know it by.
The only time I think I would take offense to somebody using a certain name is if they were attempting to gatekeep or be elitist.
On the same end, I think it is just as elitist to judge what name people use in relation to a series. So what if a show has an English name. If somebody wants to say Boku no Hero Academia, let them? It doesn't hurt you.
Yeah I'm annoyed too because most of the time people who use the romanized Japanese anime titles:
- speak no japanese
- watch either HorribleSubs or streaming websites
- sound really dumb
It deppends of the case, if I discovered the series before the localization I'll stick with the original.
Hell I'll still call the Zinogre from Monster Hunter Jinouga because I played a fan translation of Monster Hunter freedom 3.
Hell I'll still call the Zinogre from Monster Hunter Jinouga because I played a fan translation of Monster Hunter freedom 3.
Ruffy is his official name in Germany though :)
Also people always just say Hero Academia
Also nobody calls it Food Wars (what a horrible title). It really depends on the title imo
This happens once in a while when discussing Phoenix Wright. Someone will inevitably pop in and talk about how much they love Gyakuten Saiban and that they adored the character progression of *insert Japanese character name here*, leaving everyone else in the thread lost and confused.
I agree with the OP, btw. I'm a Japanese learner myself and still find myself really annoyed anytime someone casually drops a Japanese word into a sentence when there are more natural and perfectly usable English words for what they're trying to say. Stick to the language you're speaking, please.
I agree with the OP, btw. I'm a Japanese learner myself and still find myself really annoyed anytime someone casually drops a Japanese word into a sentence when there are more natural and perfectly usable English words for what they're trying to say. Stick to the language you're speaking, please.
This bother me a lot more than it should when it comes to DragonBall, where people say "SSJ3" instead of "SS3" or "Kuririn" instead of "Krillin".
Like, I get that Super aired in Japan way earlier than it did in the West, but that feels to me like it ignores the entire localization effort of the previous series.
Like, I get that Super aired in Japan way earlier than it did in the West, but that feels to me like it ignores the entire localization effort of the previous series.
Depends on the title for me, and of course how I encountered it.
My favourite manga of all time, "Shin Angyo Onshi", luckily kept its name in German, because the English name "Blade of the Phantom Master" is hot garbage.
BLADE OF THE PHANTOM MASTER. It's not even a translation, it's an entirely new title.
And there is no phantom master, and the main character doesn't use a blade? Dumbest crap.
My favourite manga of all time, "Shin Angyo Onshi", luckily kept its name in German, because the English name "Blade of the Phantom Master" is hot garbage.
BLADE OF THE PHANTOM MASTER. It's not even a translation, it's an entirely new title.
And there is no phantom master, and the main character doesn't use a blade? Dumbest crap.
This, but unironically, because that's how I encountered the series, feels weird to use "Attack on Titan", which I only learned about months after getting into it.
The Vegito (anime/all other media) vs Vegerot (Viz Manga?) name translation always gives me a twitch. I get why they called him Vegerot, but it sounds bleh in comparison to Vegito.
