Do you have to take all kinds of vitamin and fiber supplements while eating like this to keep everything functioning well? It feels misguided, to say the least.
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Anyone doing the Carnivore diet?
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I don't really care which dumbass you heard about it from, it's a fact that the diet is being pushed by Peterson and his daughter. It's connected to him whether you want it to be or not.
For the people wondering about fiber, this talk kinda edge my to try the diet. I was kinda sceptical because of the no vegetables recommendation of the zero carb diet.
Dr Paul mason talk on fiber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqUO4P9ADI0
Dr Paul mason talk on fiber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqUO4P9ADI0
i think a lot of that has to do with how people view cheat meals. A cheat meal for me is having some rice instead of all vegetables with my teriyaki chicken. And cheat days/weeks/months? A cheat day is pushing it, a cheat week is you are falling into old eating habits. And personally i stop missing pastas/pizzas/etc because every time i have it i instantly regret it. If it were just resetting the clock on losing weight it would be bad enough but even while maintaining a healthy weight you have to deal with a day or two of less energy, shitty mood, maybe headaches etc.
True its hard to gorge yourself on low carb items full of fiber and fat because you get sated very quickly. Also im not sure what kind of keto diet you were on where potatoes, rice, and beans are on the menu.
You need more variance in nutrients than meat can provide. What's the point of removing vegetables?
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Doesn't seem like it. Seems to be next step from paleo and keto style diets.
Sorry I was on keto (reddit's /r/keto and /r/ketorecipes are fantastic resources) for a full year, got to the weight I wanted and then slowly transitioned off it while still eating healthy (no sugars, no processed foods) but lots of plant-based food like beans, rice, potatoes, veggies, fruits. Nowadays I tend to eat only 1 meal a day with no snacking but I still stick to the no fast food, high sugar, etc. I'm at my ideal weight so losing weight isn't really a goal anymore, just keeping a check on my blood pressure, insulin levels, etc.
If anyone needs an extra reason not to do this. Everyone's favorite lobster daddy pulpit huckster pitched this bullshit on Joe Rogan's podcast a few months ago.
Sure, go ahead. Enjoy your diverticulitis from chronic constipation, liver issues, brain fog from lack of carbohydrates, lack of nutrients, and atherosclerosis
That honestly sounds disgusting. A barbecue pig-out every once in awhile is nice, but no veggies, fruits, or grains? Fuck that. You serve me a piece of meat with an egg and no real sides and I'm gonna look at you like "What you want me to do with this?"
Awful lot of people dismissing this without actually citing any science behind their reasoning.
Personally, OP, I don't like the idea of only eating meat. Not just because it could get boring very quickly but because meat doesn't contain all the vitamins and minerals that while aren't a priority but are very beneficial that you will find in vegetables, particularly the fats found in an Avocado or the vitamins K and C and antioxidants in Broccoli.
Personally, OP, I don't like the idea of only eating meat. Not just because it could get boring very quickly but because meat doesn't contain all the vitamins and minerals that while aren't a priority but are very beneficial that you will find in vegetables, particularly the fats found in an Avocado or the vitamins K and C and antioxidants in Broccoli.
This is a weird reason not to do something. I assume Jordan Peterson also uses toothpaste as well, I guess we should stop doing that.
Could work for some select few but probably not a good idea. You can just supplement fiber but i would be mainly concerned about the salt and cholesterol. Those two are at the forefront of heart disease for many people, aside from a more general metabolic disorder that obesity causes.
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Any studies you can cite? I thought animal fat causing heart disease was disproven?
Seems gastrointestinal health is biggest issue long term here.
I guess poking fun at windbags isn't allowed on here without being deliberately misrepresented. Oh well.
There are not studies because it's common sense. This is basic science, not something that requires research.
- You need plant based Vitamin C
- You need plant based folic acid because you're likely not eating organs
- Fiber makes healthy stool
- This is more keto than keto and will make you feel horrible
Do people need to post long explanations about why you need Vitamin C? Google it. It helps you make collagen, the stuff that keeps your body glued together and your skin stuck on your body.
Someone linked one already, but a simple search for mortality rates with low carb diet has several well formed studies showing clearly that red meats decrease longevity even over just eating a regular carb filled diet, whereas healthy fats are probably the best diet of all for longevity.
Doesn't seem like anyone actually gets scurvy on the thing. Shawn Baker is the primary proponent of the diet and he has been on it for like 2 years or so.
I mostly just eat meat, eggs, and fish myself, but I see no good reason to avoid leafy greens and stuff like broccoli, for example.
I first read about the idea when there was an article floating around that featured a family, the Andersons, that basically only ate ribeye steak. I think this is it:
https://gistonice.wordpress.com/201...ily-lives-on-only-meat-for-the-past-17-years/
The kids have been on it just about all of their lives according to the story, with the parents having been on it for going on 20 years now.
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Well, yeah. If you eat meat, eggs, fish, and vegetables that's a different story from a carnivore diet.
I wonder what those kids eat at school or at friend's houses. I imagine your gut would go crazy at the slightest bit of difference if you've only eaten steak your entire life.
I can't find the original article that I saw quite a few years ago, but in it, I believe they said that they basically let their kids choose what they want to eat whatever they want and most of the time they just ate steak alongside their parents. I'm sure they ate other stuff while with friends, though.
Anyway, a lot of the time, for me, it is just meat. I'll sometimes go a week or so just eating steak or chicken, eggs, and steak. I do take a multivitamin and a fish oil pill daily, but I'm honestly not sure how effective those are.
To counter "Vegan Gains" comes Mr. "Meat Heals" Shawn Baker who got a coronary artery scan and came back with a calcium score of 0 after spending over 2 years eating nothing but meat and even more years on a high-fat keto diet.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bnr2aXCFuR5/?utm_source=ig_twitter_share&igshid=1405hm6f6i4aw
Questionable health benefits aside, why would anyone want to even indulge in this and forsake all the beautiful tastes in the world ? Imagine never having pizza or strawberry milshake. Why even stay alive at that point ? I would much sooner be vegeterian.
I've always wondered what the gender breakdown was for these meat intensive diets (I'm making the assumption that they skew heavily male, and that it's more societal than health caused).
Humans didn't evolve on a meat heavy diet because catching animals was not trivial for our prehistoric ancestors, so our bodies are not built to process meat as efficiently as fruits, vegetables, and grains. This seems like a bad idea.
I feel like you'd have to start eating a lot of organ meats and other "miscellaneous" parts for various extra nutritional benefits. Which I enjoy but I think a lot of other people in general don't. Probably still a way to an early grave even at that.
Also have you seen real carnivore poop? Tons of fur, ground bone, sometimes animal claws... we're not equipped for that kind of hardcore lifestyle.
Also have you seen real carnivore poop? Tons of fur, ground bone, sometimes animal claws... we're not equipped for that kind of hardcore lifestyle.