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But that's not what this hubbub is about and what the thread is based on. Ya, the weapons have bonuses and perks that alter certain abilities or builds. But in Destiny, on a bullet per bullet basis, a 10 power white AR is identical to a 600 power legendary AR of the same archetype.
Quick, someone check if the flamethrower that increases damage by 0% for 0 seconds that can stack up to 0 times actually does more damage with this revelation.
(Although I assume this bug has been fixed already... right?)
(Although I assume this bug has been fixed already... right?)
My guess is that it was too much math with consideration of the results. Aka scaling gone wrong.
The sad part is we all expected Bethesda to screw up pretty badly all their games have bugs but this takes the cake in almost every direction.
I think I'm being pretty clear here.
If you are the kind of person who thought the streamer deserved his ban on the back of the catch all TOS, then you probably think this is just as damaging to the game. So according to these people, on the back of the almighty TOS wording, this is ban worthy too.
Obtuse would be abandoning common sense and advocating for Bioware to ban the few people playing the game on twitch instead of them acknowledging the issues and fixing them in a PvE game with no trading economy, AH or competitive systems; i.e. no permanent or temporary punitive action due to their own fuckups.
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Quick, someone check if the flamethrower that increases damage by 0% for 0 seconds that can stack up to 0 times actually does more damage with this revelation.
(Although I assume this bug has been fixed already... right?)
Is this just a new stock image of that flamethrower or something that everyone is continuing to use? Because I thought they fixed that a while ago and the changes should have been retroactive. Mine doesn't display that.
It's a good thing I never said anything about what someone may or may not deserve. I also wouldn't use a phrase like "a shitty catch-all" if I thought there was some fair judgements going on...
All my point is, was that whether or not you agree with the bans, the fact that someone did, or could get banned over problems that were developer related shouldn't come as some shocking revelation.
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It took millions of players a few weeks to find this. How many QA team members do you think they have testing this?
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The thing I don't get is the entire design. Anthem follows a Diablo 3 style ever increasing difficulty system, right? (In Diablo III the upper difficulties are called Torments (e.g. Torment I, Torment II, Torment III, etc) each being harder than the last..).
Why is there any damage scaling for new players in these difficulties?
I can get it for the lowest difficulty level, but why does anything like this exist for the upper one's?
If I'm understanding the system correctly, it seems like bad design, to me
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The thing I don't get is the entire design. Anthem follows a Diablo 3 style ever increasing difficulty system, right? (In Diablo III the upper difficulties are called Torments (e.g. Torment I, Torment II, Torment III, etc) each being harder than the last..).
Why is there any damage scaling for new players in these difficulties?
I can get it for the lowest difficulty level, but why does anything like this exist for the upper one's?
If I'm understanding the system correctly, it seems like bad design, to me
"Our game is broken, please don't show that to people."
Banning for any reason on this game is beyond ridiculous, i couldn't give a shit about what they think, it's wrong, period.
Because there's matchmaking for everything. It's designed around the idea that everyone should be able to play everything no matter what.
No, Bioware did, with +7 years of time given by EA you would think the foundations of the game would be good but they're not, the game needs to go back all the way back to the drawing board and then have more development time. EA would be stupid to allow them to do that after wasting so much time and money.
Does Bioware even have a QA department? I work in software engineering, so I know it's common for bugs to get triaged until later releases but I cannot fathom someone seeing this bug report and going "yup, not a blocker, we'll fix it in another patch."
There's been several, though ignored (conveniently) by many on this thread.
As above, they said on the current stream that they're doing that it's a bug and an "easy fix."
Yea, because they are meaningless. I knew not having a stat sheet was gonna be a problem, its the one thing I've been asking for since day 1
FO76 was more fun to play and is more polished than Anthem. This game is a fucking joke, what a failure
I love this trainwreck.
I wonder what the venn diagram of people who preordered FO76 and people who preordered Anthem would look like.
I wonder what the venn diagram of people who preordered FO76 and people who preordered Anthem would look like.
If they would have increased the HP of enemies, then low level players couldn't play together their high level friends, and that was their goal.
Thing is, that concept of 'everyone can play with anyone in any content and rainbows and lollipops' goes diametrically opposite of what a looter RPG game represents. If your low level friends can play the same content as you after farming for two weeks, with the same level of success, why putting the effort in the first place??
Has this been tested with other weapons vs. eachother? Why has he only compared weapons to the level 1 defender and not other weapons to other weapons? My first assumption would be that that particular gun is bugged rather than the damage system in general being an illusion
but if it is... that's the most amazing fuck up ever
I'd rather play FO76 right now. At least it has content and doesn't force me into some creepy pointless walking simulator every 10 minutes
but if it is... that's the most amazing fuck up ever
I'd rather play FO76 right now. At least it has content and doesn't force me into some creepy pointless walking simulator every 10 minutes
I'm interested if the game shipped with this bug or if it was added in a later patch. Any word on this?
And don't forget that any high-level equipment obtained from such exploits are in fact worse than level 1 equipment right now. So it's ultimately not even a worthwhile exploit.
Maybe.... Anything to combat bad PR at this point. A little surprised that it would have shipped this way and only be noticed now. It had to be a consequence of another patch.
It's a good thing I wasn't talking about you in the first place. You quoted me first.
The shocking revelation is not that it happens, is that players support that kind of shit from developers who lack a clue on how to run their games.
Oh, my bad. I didn't realize that I was in the presence of forum posting royalty. I'll be sure to get in touch with your ambassador the next time I want to reply to something seemingly ridiculous that you might have posted.
Anthem and Fallout 76 are in competition to see which game can be to bigger trainwreck. 76 had the lead but Anthem is making up ground fast.
You can go 100% digital. Just learn also to have a bit of patience and wait two weeks before buying a new game.
Imagine a new player who never switched out his gun yet because it serviced him fine suddenly got banned for playing
How could a game coming out after Diablo 3 fuck up their loot and difficulty scaling this badly? It really does feel like they developed this game in a cave.
How could a game release so little content with so many bugs after seeing both Destiny and The Division get released? The entire game is madness.
This is completely incorrect about destiny btw lol the damage curves along a delta compared the enemy's level. Below a certain level you will do no damage, over a certain level you will have your damage capped. This changes depending on the activity.
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It's been tested with many level 1 weapons and abilities.
It is a widespread issue and a rather fatal design flaw for a shlooter.
I'm glad that's settled, just so you know next time.
I love how you give me sass when a) you quoted me first b)admit you don't even understand the tone of that post you quoted c) somehow inserted yourself into my point like I was talking about you (I was not) d) then get offended after I point out I in fact didn't mean "you" in all of this and clarify my point isn't even about the wording TOS but the people using it as an excuse to justify bad developer practices. It's like you decided to become the victim for an attack no one made. Great job there.
Somebody should test weapons at different level intervals and see how this scales and how linear the scaling is. If it turns out that there is some system that gimps enemy HP for lower level weapons and that it scales all the way from level 1 to max level, then all the damage numbers are truly misleading, even if bioware tweak the multipliers.
People keep saying this is a bug, but it can't be. This is a game balance issue, they just did it in a silly way.
How could it when nobody played it.
The bug is in the balancing. Some variable in the middle of the equation is wrong.
If you're trying to say The Division didn't have any bugs, I have to assume you didn't play The Division or read threads about it. Tons of dungeon exploits, and the Dark Zone fuckery was straight up ridiculous.
How could a game release in such a bad state, period? Even if there weren't prior comparable games and mechanics, this is obviously just bad.
That the dmg numbers are actually just another facade is honestly insane. Does this game actually have a somewhat functionally stats and combat system or... is it some completely undercooked stuff with some facade on top to hide that fact?