I saw this when posted in the OT Anthem thread. Great summary of some of the issues.
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Anthem Review Thread
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I saw this when posted in the OT Anthem thread. Great summary of some of the issues.
Right now I have it on High and I've been switching back between 3840x2160 and 2560x1440, and I prefer running PC games in 2560x1440 but anytime I try using that option in this game the screen goes Pink and washed out to high Hell. It's weird af. I don't have that issue with 3840x2160 but the game seriously has major frame rate issues at that res for me
Look at the most played games on your PS4 or Xbox. It's almost all GaaS. Online experiences are increasing this gen and becoming more profitable.
And so what? Even if this thread was full of people who never intended to buy the game, does it make their opinions or critiques any less valuable? Should a game only be critiqued by those who "intended to buy the game" and how do you even classify those people? If I remember correctly, many where excited for the game when the first trailer was shown a while ago. At that point in time, you could classify those interested as people who intended to purchase the game. Very weird stance and a very weird flex....
Thanks for the effort but I don't need your short version of something I read in it's entirety.
Rex asked you to find people who say it is what Destiny promised to be, which was your claim. (or rather that "it was the gist of it"). How about you don't misrepresent your own quotes for starters lol. You know damn well that's what they asked for, not "people having fun with Anthem's open world".
The world only having one biome is, for example, very much true, and you simply ignore that fact and tell others that's an opinion they have. The world being empty also isn't an opinion. It straight up is.
From my experience the early reviews I am reading are in line with the beta experience I had. Me and my brother jumped on and had a blast flying around and shooting stuff for a solid hour. Then he had to leave and I started exploring and doing the story solo and I just instantly felt bored. The gameplay is fun, but feels disconnected from the slow hub world (town) and the dull story. And while the gameplay is fun, it gets repetitive pretty fast. It feels kinda like the old Lost Planet games to me. Which were fun, but not something I would play for hours and hours like I did with Monster Hunter, Destiny or Division (Division 2! Wassup).
I don't know what happened at Bioware. I've never seen a developer at their level of success and acclaim do a 180* so quick. I tried my hardest to like Andromeda, and it was bad. This is appears to be another disappointment. I get that some people will like it but the fact that the story is lacking is a sign that this is not the Bioware I feel in love with when they made KOTOR. I miss them
I don't know what happened at Bioware. I've never seen a developer at their level of success and acclaim do a 180* so quick. I tried my hardest to like Andromeda, and it was bad. This is appears to be another disappointment. I get that some people will like it but the fact that the story is lacking is a sign that this is not the Bioware I feel in love with when they made KOTOR. I miss them
No, this is what happened.
One person said "puts Destiny's open world to shame" - here
You told them it didn't. - here
I responded to you and said "everyone outside the internet I've spoken to says they love the open world" - here
You said "show me one person, literally anywhere" - here
I said "I can't show you the people who are offline... but here's some online" - here
you said "you didn't answer my question, none of my statements were opinions" - here ----- which was not my point, my point was OTHER PEOPLE think the open world is great, and no matter how many objective truths you think you have found that doesn't change that fact.
I AGREE with you, but that wasn't my point. My point, as lcealry written, was that plenty of other people do think the open world is good, and you shouting "objective fact" ad them won't change their minds.
Ie: it's opinion, not objective.
And this is literally shown with the breakdown you posted.
Yeah echos my own feeling on the game. Glad I watched it didn't know about the GM lvl req thing. I would be the one getting pissed that I met the reqs but still was dieing easy. I'll stay with hard until I get to 400.
I trust Datto's opinions more than reviewers when it comes to these types of games. Game looks fun from his footage. If it had a bit more time in the oven, I think it could have been a really solid game. Still wouldn't get it, only have time to invest in Destiny for loot shooters.
I don't think anybody really needs "high profile" reviews to be out to have a good understanding of what the current state of the game is. This thread is so big already because we have enough of an idea to discuss what's going on.
It's really a question of whether or you feel like spending $60 on the game AND live service or not. I think there's something appealing to gamers about enjoying the base gameplay, but staying tuned to the updates and improvements that happen over time. I think a lot of people are buying the game on day 1 and kinda into that, tbh.
Whereas a lot of people want the thing their buying to be immediately worth the $60 out of the gate.
Both views are valid, and I think a lot of people are just trying to get a feel for
1. How straight up broken is the game? and
2. Bugs aside, do *I* like the core gameplay?
It's really a question of whether or you feel like spending $60 on the game AND live service or not. I think there's something appealing to gamers about enjoying the base gameplay, but staying tuned to the updates and improvements that happen over time. I think a lot of people are buying the game on day 1 and kinda into that, tbh.
Whereas a lot of people want the thing their buying to be immediately worth the $60 out of the gate.
Both views are valid, and I think a lot of people are just trying to get a feel for
1. How straight up broken is the game? and
2. Bugs aside, do *I* like the core gameplay?
I AGREE the world is empty. I was responding to the idea that other people think it's good.
Rex asked me to find anyone saying it's doing Destiny better... I literally did
See the post above, it links here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puoNlqGdTXk
Third comment down
"It's like Destiny done right"
And all the other positive comments.
My point was opinion is obviously split, and while you, I, and Rex all think the open world is lacking there are loads of people who think it's not. Hell there are plenty of examples ITT of people saying otherwise, Rex literally began by telling someone who was stating heir opinion about the open world that they were wrong....
Yes, it is, but I'm not going to be misrepresented and ganged up on by a bunch of people when my posts clearly didn't do what they're claiming.
GM difficulties are said to be bugged, though. GM1 currently almost akin to what GM3 should be. source: posted in OT
I'd say no as anything that keeps the ea meme, rip bioware and similar trash elsewhere and out of the OT is doing great work.
EDIT: lol, literally the two posts right above mine before I hit post.
75 would suggest it's going to get some 8s... this game isn't getting any 8s and I don't see it getting anywhere near 75. There's not that many outlets going to be putting a score on this one for some time yet, we've not got the "real" day 1 game yet with the jesus patch (lol) and from there it will take time to experience everything it has to offer to be able to pin a number on there.
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That depends entirely on the form and manner of the opinion. I don't have any issue with people posting about their disappointment in the game, but I think that poster was more referring to the underlying weird glee behind a lot of the "BOMBA RIP BIOWARE" posts, which the first few pages are full of. In that respect, I think it's fair to be annoyed at the manner in which uninterested people are choosing to represent themselves.
I really want this game to be good but everything I've seen and read is just.. meh.
I'll wait for a price drop and a few patches to iron out the kinks I think.
I really hope this doesn't negatively impact Bioware. I want more Mass Effect!
I'll wait for a price drop and a few patches to iron out the kinks I think.
I really hope this doesn't negatively impact Bioware. I want more Mass Effect!
Yeah I was going to pass on anthem because of destiny. I didn't care for the last season of stuff (black armory), they still haven't said what in the next season that starts in a week or 2. Considering my fav stuff in destiny have been abandoned (strike play list, faction rally) and anthem seems to double downed on those type of things I figured it was a good game to try.
I'll prob still work my way to 700 next season, I'll always come back to destiny.
PS4 hasn't got access at all until the 22nd. That's where most reviews are usually.
X-box only has 10 hours, which is probably not enough to base a review on for most reviewers for a game like this.
PC is the only one with full access.
Same here. Datto is probably one of the most knowledgeable GAAS content creators out there. He also wisely addresses in this video some of the more structural issues and lays off the less useful discussion of the bugs / technical issues, which are going to get fixed eventually.
I will say though, the way loading works, and the loadtimes being as long as they are, that needs to be addressed ASAP. The day one patch is addressing it, but if this game wants to get any audience, this patch needs to get loading right. Even the streamers who are liking this game can't get over the loading. Some of the load times are beyond brutal.
We received a mail todat outlining the content of the day 1 patch. My editor let me decide how we approach this and I decided to hold back our review until March the 1st to have a full week of gameplay with the many fixes in place, in order to give our readers the most accurate picture of what they would be spending their money on.
Yeah it's a bit much - the thread could be half as long without it :P
The next 2 months are going to be crazy for this game and the people working on it. I kinda hope it forces their hand a little - get the fixes in place enough to build a stable platform, and really fire out that content at a cadence this genre isn't used to seeing. It's going to be interesting to say the least, wouldn't miss being in the thick of it for anything.
It's not Bioware though, it's EA.
Bioware are a very competent studio, this game looks like them doing the best with a less than ideal budget and/or dev time, same with Mass Effect.
It's simple, EA want the win but don't want to put in the work.
This is how I feel... I'm giving them two months MAX, then if things aren't moving well I'll cancel and wait for their TTK or whatever.
I really hope they can turn this around, the nature of their episodic game might play well over time... but they won't have much of that to prove it in.
This has been disproved many times ITT and the OT I think, EA had very little to do with the way this game was handled according to people's claims. I've not looked into it myself, so take that with a grain of salt, but I have read a few articles that people linked that seemed to confirm this at a glance.
It seems this is almost all on BioWare.
i think the vast majority of folks posting those sorts of things are doing it out of genuine concern or fear for the future of BioWare. Some people just feel the best way to deal with dread or disappointment is by making light of it. I don't think you'll find many (maybe a very small few) who are legitimately wishing and hoping for BioWare to collapse. I see these comments more as a condemnation of EA and an indication of folks genuine worry about what this game's reception might bring about.
Alternatively I think folks like yourself who are taking offense at these comments are doing so from a genuine place of concern and hurt about the studio too.
So yea what I conclude from all this is that regardless of their current output or state a LOT of folks still care deeply about BioWare for one reason or another and given the history of the studio and the titlestheyve put out in the past. They've covered a lot of different tastes and sunsets of gaming across their entire catalogue so it's a brand that many people have good memories from.
They had a long time to make this game, and I'm sure EA invested a load of effort into it. There are only a handful of studios in the world making games this complex and with this scale. This comment is just pure nonsense.
Bollocks
Come on look at the signs, it's not a coincidence that pretty much all of EA's studios are underperforming in terms of putting out interesting and quality games, yet the one studio that had minimal input from EA made Apex Legends.
BioWare don't always take the easiest path, they attempt things that maybe aren't in their favour, but with good intentions. EA like their studios to use frostbite. It's a spicy recipe!
The blame guessing game has no merit, really. It's basically a lot of people doing their best under tough conditions - hopefully some time soon we get a game that lives up to the BioWare name if not the lofty heights of what Dylan was first planned to be.
Nah, people post that shite 'cause they're immature, lack the ability to take part in worthwhile debate, or just like to get giddy riding bandwagons. Nobody posts a PapEA meme out of love and respect, if they're articulate and intelligent enough to care on any such level they simply put those thoughts into words.
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This games has been in development for like 6 years. How can you tell me this games did not have enough development time or budget?
No, they were a competent studio once. But so was Mythic Entertainment and numerous others before EA trashed them. Look at the people that made Bioware what it was, and look how many of those names you still see in the credit section on anything that's been made in the later years. All the people that made it what it was are gone.