but they can make a huge gameworld right from the start so it'll take longer before you reach the repetitive endgame...and then plan ahead with some major DLC drops...
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Anthem Prelaunch Discussion Thread (Origin Premier/EA Access: Feb 15th) - Time To Fly FreelancEra
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but they can make a huge gameworld right from the start so it'll take longer before you reach the repetitive endgame...and then plan ahead with some major DLC drops...
In my experience, players always, ALWAYS exhaust base game content VERY quickly before the developers are even ready to talk about the next content drop and whatever the update brings in terms of content, that too will be exhausted in a matter of days. The player base is always hungry for new stuff and that won't ever change.
I'm a longtime BioWare (primarily DA and ME) fan, and I really wanted to like this game, but just... don't.
I tried the demo last weekend, and was not impressed. I'm perfectly willing to let them sort out the actual bugs and problems, but still find the screen shake and other fx to be more than I want to deal with. Also, I'm just generally much more interested in SP than any sort of MP experience, so - I'll be passing on this one.
I tried the demo last weekend, and was not impressed. I'm perfectly willing to let them sort out the actual bugs and problems, but still find the screen shake and other fx to be more than I want to deal with. Also, I'm just generally much more interested in SP than any sort of MP experience, so - I'll be passing on this one.
I never once anywhere said that bonuses don't stack. I have only ever questioned whether or not you get the bonuses from both weapons at the same time, or if it only applies to the currently equipped weapon. It has never been a question of stacking, it's been a question of whether or not they are both active at the same time.
This was never even questioned by me. I already assumed that they stacked in that way.
I never said anything about an Ammo Compartment. I said +10% bonus ammo from a component.
So you're telling me again that this is not an overlap on the modifier tables? You seem to think I'm saying that one mod overwrites another if it's the same type, which isn't what I said.
And yet, it still doesn't answer the only real question about gear I actually had. It mentioned absolutely nothing about combined weapon bonuses being active at all times. That video doesn't actually say anything new that wasn't in any of the other videos I watched. It's weird too how you wanted to make sure that I knew that weapons didn't come with "mods", yet in this very video he mentions crafting weapons that can come with random modifiers. 7:17
Vanilla Destiny 2 have lots of sidequest missions (some of which are more interesting than the main story missions), and yet people don't bother with them because they are not as effective as grinding Public Events to level up.
No matter how many content the game had before endgame, from my observation people will only do the one that are the most effective in term of levelling.
They are just harder difficulty settings for the same content you completed. Games like Diablo do that often.
Vanilla The Division also had quite a lot of missions at endgame, and yet people only repeat Lexington Center over and over again. Because it's the easiest and quickest way to gear up in pve. Another example is the infamous Bullet King farm.
So yeah, what people want in these games is how many the carrots on the stick available, not how many playgrounds you get to choose to chase the carrots.
I'm starting to believe that part 2 of the Gameplay series video will be out later this week/early next week. They've said they were working on it not too long ago and Ben recently tweeted this:
Which makes me believe he's talking about the next video as we already know that's going to be about difficulty and endgame.
Which makes me believe he's talking about the next video as we already know that's going to be about difficulty and endgame.
Hey, where is this screenshot from? That Tactical Advantage component is new to me.
Clear your history and search history. Close your browser. Open browser and go back to Youtube and it should be clean of everything but subscription content and the usual trending stuff.
The Anthem click bait is pretty funny.
Not even 1 week ago a developer said on reddit that the pilot skill tree had been revamped and that they were saving the reveal for launch. Today they say that this feature is eliminated. Does bioware's left hand know what its right hand us up to? Yikes. Announce a feature is revamped, wait 5 days, kill the feature. All within 3 weeks of launch.
I preordered the game, and hope it turns out, but it looks like anthem has the mass effect andromeda blues.
I preordered the game, and hope it turns out, but it looks like anthem has the mass effect andromeda blues.
The skill tree seemed really pointless to me in the closed alpha. I won't miss it and I don't think it needs to be revamped. Gear, Weapons and Components provide plenty of stat bonuses already tbh.
What's the gear score level cap for launch version?
Having played the closed alpha, the pilot skill tree is definitely a fine addition to the roleplaying aspect of the game. That'd be a bummer.
Wait, really?
Having played the closed alpha, the pilot skill tree is definitely a fine addition to the roleplaying aspect of the game. That'd be a bummer.
Some of us looked forward to the rpg mechanic that a well implemented pilot skill tree would've provided. Seems that cutting features and dumbing down (or "streamlining" if you work in PR) is the path of least resistance when crunch time comes.
This game has been in development since 2012. Oh really?
A well implemented skill tree is a rare sight in a video game. I don't see the point. There are still RPG mechanics in other areas, like customising your gear build for stat boosts you desire.
Anyway, the official response is that they may revisit the skill tree idea after launch, so you may get what you want eventually.
Ben is responding to a screen cap I took from this video. That twitter user took it from a post I made on reddit. Same video was posted in the discord FYI
It's almost 4am but I'm glad I was awake to watch that now, so cool. Let me go check Twitter for conversation about screen caps and such - anything super important pop out to people?
I'm stoked for the game and I'm sure I'll have a blast playing with friends. We all really liked the demo.That being said I do think there won't be enough content to sustain interest though. I feel like the Division 2 will end up stealing a lot of the player base.
Everything you have equipped applies. There is no reason to think otherwise since all inscriptions roll randomly. If they didn't stack, they wouldn't roll randomly because then a bad roll would be a *useless* roll.
Yes, I mentioned the Ammo Compartment because it *is* a component. Ammo Compartment is just the specific name of it.
I'm telling you that they do not overlap. They stack. I had a Frag grenade during the demo that have +6% Grenade Damage on it 3 times. It hit three times harder than a Frag grenade of the same level and quality without that inscription. I tested it.
I've already explained why using the term "mods" is different from using the word "modifiers." "Mods" implies adding something to an existing item. It doesn't matter what it's technically shorthand for because shorthand terminology within games takes on it's own meaning, separate from the original words. I.e. "mobs," "creeps," "aggro," "frag" (as a verb), etc...
I just googled "ammo compartment" and it came up on Google images. I didn't have any screenshots on hand.
The video in general is really cool, looks like they've tweaked difficulty %'s and expanded upon stats on weapons for you to see easily. We also now seem to know all 3 Masterwork/Legendary versions of the Light Machine Guns too, they all look really cool. Some of their bonus properties are going to be insane in some builds. I'm guessing the video was supposed to release later this week and the PlayStation Korea channel scheduled it to release too early or made it public by mistake? I imagine the devs are also planning to talk about the updates and changes to difficulty and endgame more openly this week too.
There's one in the background (grey and red) during all the crafting sections and then there's the 2 we see being crafted.
Seriously, thanks for at least trying to help I guess, but this is pointless since you aren't even reading what I've said. You keep arguing things I'm not even arguing against in the first place as if I were.
How is the game, as far as the demo is concerned? I'm waiting for my PC (it's in the shop), so I don't have a chance to try the demo.
The difficulty scaling vs loot chance makes no logical sense.
Hard is +52% for a 100% chance at MW.
GM1 is +165% for a 150 % chance at MW.
GM2 is +430% for a 200 % chance at MW.
GM3 is +950% for a 250 % chance at MW.
Shows lots of promise in terms of mechanics and core content. Demo lacked stability, performance. I would suggest to watch a few videos on it.
This one might be a good start.
Interesting. So I guess endgame activities for launch version is already final:
- daily/weekly/monthly challenges for masterwork crafting materials
- normal & legendary contracts (random missions)
- trials (redoing strongholds)
- public events (cataclysm)
- free roam
I think I can see how Anthem endgame will play out now. Instead of redoing certain strikes/missions over and over again like in Destiny/The Division, people are going to take various contracts with randomized elements (places & enemies) instead. People aren't gonna farm strongholds, because doing one without a trial would be not as effective.
I couldn't even find the pilot skill tree during the demo. Still don't know what it even looks like lol.
Maybe a MOBA inspired mode? 4v4. 2 or 3 lanes with towers and a jungle (towers could help limit you just flying around everywhere). In match leveling that gives you better stats and access to more/better abilities. The creeps would be the enemy factions with the Ash Titans as each teams final guardian.
Some contracts would be weekly, so repeating strongholds and free-roam is going to happen. Especially how the difficulty increases high tier loot chances. Although what is most effective of strongholds and free-roam events are difficult to say. Likely free-roam.
The higher the difficulty the higher the chance, that's all the logical sense it needs. If it scaled linear it would be too high a chance.
FTFY!
First % is the increase in enemy health.
Second % is the increase in chance. So if getting a MW on normal is a 5% chance on normal, it is a 17.5% chance on GM3.
I understand that but from those numbers the incentive to run harder content seems low. You could just speed run hard for your 5% chance in 10 mins than spend 30 minutes on GM2 for a 15% chance. If the whole end game revolves around farming for better loot, those drops rates need to be more enticing.
Also, the reduction of GM3 from 3100% to 950% is massive. That's a very significant drop in difficulty, how does that happen so close to launch?
There's a lot of ballancing going on right now. Wouldn't even call that final, just launch-ready. How difficulty scaling, loot chances and such turn out in the long run will decide how ballancing is modified later on. If it really isn't worth it, it will be corrected.
That said, Diablo III had similar scaling (and difficulty mechanics) and it worked out just fine.
That said, Diablo III had similar scaling (and difficulty mechanics) and it worked out just fine.
You and I are literally guessing percents. The fact of the matter is that if you run content on the hardest difficulty, you are 3.5x times more likely to get the best loot than before, which is actually a lot especially for those hardcore grinders.
Furthermore, damage reduction means nothing without context. You have no clue how much damage guns were doing before to even say that it is now easier. This is why developers don't like putting placeholder figures anywhere, because people run with it. People on this very forum were saying that they won't buy this game until they can confirm that the rare loot they get won't have +0% weapon damage. Like really?
Damn weapons that trigger the combo is an interesting twist. Interested to see what the radius is for this ability.
Media had only tried GM1 and that was a challenge. I would assume they threw a number at GM2 and GM3 to balance it after the launch loot changes. There might even be some health changes to the enemies to lead to this change too, or even some abilities from them.
Balancing is always changing, even shortly before launches.
The difficulty numbers will need a lot of balancing to make the hard content worthwhile.
People will run easy mode 5 times if it is quicker than doing GM3 once and gives equivalent drop chances.
This is a genre where people sat shooting at a cave in the tutorial zone for hours becasue it gave a slightly better loot drop rate than doing high-level missions.
People also seem to forget that easy mode exists and that this is the base %
Hard wasn't +100% of normal, it was +100% of easy (and normal was +50% of easy). I assume the same applies to the supposed "current build" numbers.
Based on the demo, it was much much quicker to rush the stronghold on easy compared to having to fight through tough and hard-hitting enemies on hard.
It certainly wasn't worth a 33% increase in rare drop chance (normal=150% base, hard=200% base) if you wanted to be "efficient".
Still, these numbers should be easy to adjust. I'm hoping Anthem does a much better job than Destiny in rapid response and game-world updating. Bioware have talked about having tools that allow quick modifications, while Bungie always complained about how hard it was to make even the most trivial changes to the live code.
I hope the legendary contracts provide some interesting challenges and aren't just "Repeat this story mission on GM2" or "Kill 5 giant-scrotum-on-spider-legs bosses" for a bonus drop. Maybe they'll have modifiers like Destiny Nightfalls that make people rethink their builds.
People will run easy mode 5 times if it is quicker than doing GM3 once and gives equivalent drop chances.
This is a genre where people sat shooting at a cave in the tutorial zone for hours becasue it gave a slightly better loot drop rate than doing high-level missions.
People also seem to forget that easy mode exists and that this is the base %
Hard wasn't +100% of normal, it was +100% of easy (and normal was +50% of easy). I assume the same applies to the supposed "current build" numbers.
Based on the demo, it was much much quicker to rush the stronghold on easy compared to having to fight through tough and hard-hitting enemies on hard.
It certainly wasn't worth a 33% increase in rare drop chance (normal=150% base, hard=200% base) if you wanted to be "efficient".
Still, these numbers should be easy to adjust. I'm hoping Anthem does a much better job than Destiny in rapid response and game-world updating. Bioware have talked about having tools that allow quick modifications, while Bungie always complained about how hard it was to make even the most trivial changes to the live code.
I hope the legendary contracts provide some interesting challenges and aren't just "Repeat this story mission on GM2" or "Kill 5 giant-scrotum-on-spider-legs bosses" for a bonus drop. Maybe they'll have modifiers like Destiny Nightfalls that make people rethink their builds.
Do you (or someone else) have a link to part 1 of this? I've seen it referenced a few times but as I'm pretty new to learning about this game I have no idea what I'm looking for.
That's part 1 of the This is Anthem Official Gameplay video series. Part 2 leaked last night on Playstation Korea, but since then all versions of it and videos referencing it seem to have vanished.
Yep, wish I'd watched it this morning instead of saving it for when I got home, bah. This is down and the PS Korea one that clearly shouldn't be available is still fine. Picked the wrong one to cheekily view on borrowed time.
EDIT: Just re-watched the Korea one, reloaded and now that's gone, too. But I imagine that's been cloned plenty of times.
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