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Anime series which started off with great visuals but declined in quality?
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One Piece. But since the Wano arc it got a bit better.
Also the recent season of Seven Deadly Sins, One Punch Man too, really a lot of sequels fluctuate in quality be it due to director and staff changes, studio changes or overall lack of funding for a good schedule.
Also the recent season of Seven Deadly Sins, One Punch Man too, really a lot of sequels fluctuate in quality be it due to director and staff changes, studio changes or overall lack of funding for a good schedule.
Not really fair, but Berserk:
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I would also say One Piece. Not because of the backgrounds, because they seem to be the same, but the whole animation and so many stills.
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I would also say One Piece. Not because of the backgrounds, because they seem to be the same, but the whole animation and so many stills.
As someone watching Saint Seiya on Netflix for the first time. I gotta say it already doesn't look to hot lol. It's a bit like digimon where they cut 10-15 minutes of good animation and use those 10-15 minutes for 60+ episodes.
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I would generally agree though.
DBZ had higher heights and that hand-drawn 90s look but Super massively improved after the first arc visually and regarding animation. Both have some really good looking (Z has more of those) and some really bad looking episodes.
I don't want to defend Super btw, show looked horrible a lot of times but People really tend to overestimate how good Z looked and animated on average.
(OG DragonBall is where the series peaked so it still works)
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One Punch Man. It's not just that the narrative as a whole became weaker in season 2, along with the voice acting, use of music, action, etc. But man does it look ugly as hell, and that's the only thing that could have redeemed it.
Season 1 looked great, so it was a real bummer.
Season 1 looked great, so it was a real bummer.
There were more in Seed and Destiny. Though I don't remember much recycle footage in Turn A and Gundam 00 which was released close to Seed series.
Oh I'm makin my way through the old stuff, and they've got plenty of recycled footage in 0079. Probably similar amounts in Zeta but for some reason I'm not picking up on that much...
Been mentioned but One Piece for me though I've seen clips where it is also perfectly fine. I miss the old animation style compared to the current one.
There is something to that hand drawn look I just really love though Super did have a lot of moments that looked great. I think everyone agrees that Super had some really bad strings like the Resurrection F arc.
It really does in a lot of places. I recently watched Goku vs Jackie Chun again and Kamehameha duel is just beautiful.
A lot of the movies look great too though even some of those get rough at times.
Wing was also a victim of this. X and G did as well though I feel not to the same extent. Or at least there were enough times where they'd vary it up a bit that it made up for it. G always seemed to be at its best for the really big fights.
There is something to that hand drawn look I just really love though Super did have a lot of moments that looked great. I think everyone agrees that Super had some really bad strings like the Resurrection F arc.
It really does in a lot of places. I recently watched Goku vs Jackie Chun again and Kamehameha duel is just beautiful.
A lot of the movies look great too though even some of those get rough at times.
Wing was also a victim of this. X and G did as well though I feel not to the same extent. Or at least there were enough times where they'd vary it up a bit that it made up for it. G always seemed to be at its best for the really big fights.
the launch sequence remain consistently great from start to finish imo
Latest One Piece in the Wano Arc looks amazing I'd say.Not really fair, but Berserk:
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I would also say One Piece. Not because of the backgrounds, because they seem to be the same, but the whole animation and so many stills.
Not for Seed Destiny. They milked the shit out of that transforming footage.
tha's what I mean, it's the same footage, so it stay great from beginning to end, OP is talking about footage that got worse. Lol
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This was the first show that came to mind for me as well. I think they spent their whole budget on that first episode. 😂
It really does look great though.
Kill La Kill I feel doesn't get picked up enough for this. Started as this amazingly creative, frenetic, free form style series (while still having a high standard of animation quality and storyboarding) then I don't know what happened part way through, but it just went to complete shit. Super stiff animation, lots of reuse, boring storyboards and fight scenes, some truly rubbish character designs... just bad.
Yuri On Ice is a famous one. First handful of episodes has some of the nicest animation in the industry then they obviously ran out of time and budget (and or they were overly ambitious) and a lot of corners start getting cut. Still a great series overall animation wise, but there's an obvious drop in quality at a point.
I vaguely remember Claymore having this issue too, but it's been a while and I could be misremembering...
Yuri On Ice is a famous one. First handful of episodes has some of the nicest animation in the industry then they obviously ran out of time and budget (and or they were overly ambitious) and a lot of corners start getting cut. Still a great series overall animation wise, but there's an obvious drop in quality at a point.
I vaguely remember Claymore having this issue too, but it's been a while and I could be misremembering...
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FMP IV is a low-budget followup to a visual masterpiece by Kyoto Animation... Watching it was pretty painful
For Gundam I think it depends of series. 00 had little recycled content but some of the later battle scenes became a bit ugly. SEED had a lot of reused footage but it was used in a way that benefited battle scale and choreography in a big way. Destiny was in a worse place but the animation was really more just a symptom of that wreck of a production...
IIRC, Saint Seiya changed animation studios (or something like that), so there's a noticeable drop in quality between the Sanctuary arc and the Asgard/Poseidon arcs.
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It's been four years and I'm still gd salty that it won crunchyroll's best animation award over MP100. 😑
First episode's animation was amazing, sure, but it wasn't that amazing that it made up for the entire dang rest of the show lol. 🧂🧂🧂
Doing a show featuring ice skating performances is not an easy take. It's pretty ambitious as hell to keep it going and keeping things fresh and unique (and yes, they had to recycle a ton of animation to keep it going). I can't fault it for not maintaining the standard set in the first episode.
edit:MP100 definitely overtakes it in terms of animation quality
IIRC (and mind you, I'm speaking from memory), while the second and third arcs of the anime weren't as egregious in the drop of quality as the Hades arc, they were substantially less defined than the first arc. Like the detail in the characters themselves wasn't as good and the amount of frames in the animation was reduced, mostly as a means to cut costs on the animation.
I was looking for some resources that showed this, but all I can find is about the new spin-offs and gacha games... :/
People saying One Piece don't know what they're taking about. OP didn't start great and decline, it's fucking wildly inconsistent.
The anime looked fine from the beginning, getting bumps in quality as it went, reaching a peak in a lot of ways with Water 7/Thriller Bark, then dipped off slowly, reaching its worst quality post-TS, specifically in Punk Hazard and then the absolutely fucking dreadful Dressrosa, where it also became a pacing nightmare. After Dressrosa it started to improve, then it hit a point during Whole Cake where it felt like it finally started gaining momentum again.
Now in Wano it looks better than it has in years and we're getting dope shit like this pretty consistently for MINOR ASS SCENES.
The anime looked fine from the beginning, getting bumps in quality as it went, reaching a peak in a lot of ways with Water 7/Thriller Bark, then dipped off slowly, reaching its worst quality post-TS, specifically in Punk Hazard and then the absolutely fucking dreadful Dressrosa, where it also became a pacing nightmare. After Dressrosa it started to improve, then it hit a point during Whole Cake where it felt like it finally started gaining momentum again.
Now in Wano it looks better than it has in years and we're getting dope shit like this pretty consistently for MINOR ASS SCENES.
Reminder that lots of anime spend lots of their time and budget on the very first episode, to appeal to the audience and hook them... It happens really often that the first episode is gorgeous then you have to wait for the last episode to get the same quality again
Not trying to defend naruto, but smear frames. How does this look at normal speed?
IIRC I remember what I've watched of SEED Destiny reusing animations from SEED at times, but it would replace the mobile suits being displayed.
I was just having fun, I was reminded of this funny gif is all :-)