It looks like you've already judged him being guilty?
One party can forcefully silence her through the law because he has money, though. He has already started that process.
That IS true, but at the same time wouldn't you lawyer up if you had built something financially and had the money to defend yourself? I can see how this looks like he's muscling her but at the same time I can also see just trying to protect your work and yourself financially. Its kinda a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation on his end
Will he lose financially if he doesn't lawyer up and send cease and desists?
I dunno, I guess it depends on if he has deals and endorsements with people and companies...and they get wind of this scandal and decide to drop him. Sexual assault or anything related is hella taboo in our society and just having something like that attached to your name is good enough to spook people away from you personally and professionally.
So how would we find out the truth? Shall we let them have a slanging match on twitter?
Endorsements would drop them regardless of a cease and desist. A cease and desist is a tool to silence those who cannot financially fight back.
Sometimes.
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Yeah you're right. Do you think just lawyering up should have been all he did?
Joe is 100% muscling her and trying to shut down the story by giving off a tough guy persona. This is like basic legal posturing, damage control 101 etc. and you can totally tell his lawyers looked that chest-beating statement over. The original story does not accuse Joe of a crime so this whole "due process" talk is dubious at best. She basically paints him as a creepy asshole who uses his clout to position women for sex. She is allowed to have this view of him and his behavior as that is her opinion.
Yep! These types usually have a history of this behaviour. We'll know soon enough hopefully
She's allowed to have an opinion, yes, but Joe is alleging that this is all false, which is defamation, hence the legal talk.
I get what you're saying. I guess it IS a little excessive for all the lawyer talk and legal action stuff.
You can legally protect yourself and your business without being a condescending piece of shit about it though. And you can also do it in a manner that doesn't involve threats and applying public pressure onto the accuser.
Allow her to speak her story. Don't try to silence them. It isn't hard. It's a lot like the The Young Turks and unions: they're all for unions until it happens to them. Same with AngryJoe: he's all for supporting and believing victims until it happens to him. If you truly believe in supporting and believing victims then your first move shouldn't be to lawyer up and send a cease and desist letter because that is a commonly used tactic to silence victims.
Where did she mention he assaulted her though?
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Defamation is not a crime. As someone else pointed out, public figures often have to prove that actual malice is behind the statement to make a defamation case stick. It makes any legal proceeding shaky because Joe's team would have to prove that she made this up to ruin Joe's reputation rather than her just providing a valid interpretation of his behavior. It's why I think he is just trying to shut down the story with a big tough guy statement rather than being serious about pursuing this in the courts.
Because it's damage to his brand regardless of whether or not he did it
She never lied about her relationship status wtf? Just because she doesn't outright tell him "hey I have a boyfriend" doesn't mean she's lying.
So much for "any additional comments with be through my lawyers"
I guarantee he won't because he has to prove malicious intention and forethought on a story which involves a personal opinion and interpretation of another person's behavior. Good luck with that, lol.
If you were being accused of something you didn't do, why would you allow your accuser to continue spouting lies to try and defame you? Wouldn't you want that to stop immediately?
She says he asserted himself and "pushed her against the wall" when they were "out of sight". While I think her story is believable it wouldn't hold up in court unless someone else saw this happen. This is why either side is not likely to pursue this further. It's a he said/she said gossip story now unfortunately and a much more convenient situation for Joe to be in. All he has to do is say "nah the weirdo creeper stuff didn't happen and if you continue to talk about this i'll sue", which he did basically.
