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Angry Video Game Nerd Majora's Mask
- Thread starter Uzumaki Goku
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There's a lot of gameplay elements in the remake that were made worse.
If you mean his complaints specifically...
The camera in the 3DS remake is generally better.
The part with the giant skeleton was made easier in the remake, but to the point where it's become pathetically easy (also there's ways to make it easier in the N64 version that he didn't try, like shooting arrows to stun him or using the Bunny Hood to move faster).
Like he mentioned, the water sparkles in the Great Bay Temple dungeon to show you exactly where to shoot. But this completely removes what made the Ice Arrows interesting in the first place. In the 3DS remake you can ONLY make ice platforms where the sparkles are, instead of anywhere. It also kinda ruins one memorable room where you need to use the Ice Arrows to create platforms in order to stand in a specific spot so you can hookshot up to the ceiling. In the original version you need to think a little to come up with that solution, but in the remake you just follow the sparkles.
IIRC you play the song of time backwards or double up all the notes or something and it slows down time.
But even with that crutch, I had problems managing time in the game. Still fun, though, IMO.
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Why does it matter?
If you don't quote them, those posts disappear.
We were doing just fine lol.
Koizumi did the town and ranch quests. That particular quest came from attending a staffer's wedding while dreading North-Korean missiles.
Also, you can save regularly at the owl statues now, without resetting the time loop. Swimming got nerfed, the lower swimming speed might make the water dungeon less disorienting.
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I was pretty sure I remembered time not running inside of dungeons...but it has been a number of years.
The first good way to capture N64 footage from hardware, an HDMI adapter that costs $150, only came out a few months ago, he probably doesn't have one.
Started watching, stopped three quarters of the way through when it truly felt like he was grasping at straws.
Complaining about the saving system and banking mechanic? Really?
Complaining about the saving system and banking mechanic? Really?
Oof. Mike Matei's incredibly racist comics were bad enough, but it apparently doesn't stop there, huh?
Amazing episode!
I haven't played Majora's Mask, but this AVGN episode made me love and hate this game at the same time! It seems the game has an amazing atmosphere, interesting story and characters and a good core gameplay, but things like that timer aren't made for my taste.
I haven't played Majora's Mask, but this AVGN episode made me love and hate this game at the same time! It seems the game has an amazing atmosphere, interesting story and characters and a good core gameplay, but things like that timer aren't made for my taste.
Good episode!
There is always a way to get the dungeon song and then play the song of time. So you get a fresh three day cycle for the entire dungeon.
Also, when getting the dungeon item (e.g. the arrow) before times runs out, there are certain shortcuts which you can do to make the dungeon easier the second attempt.
There is always a way to get the dungeon song and then play the song of time. So you get a fresh three day cycle for the entire dungeon.
Also, when getting the dungeon item (e.g. the arrow) before times runs out, there are certain shortcuts which you can do to make the dungeon easier the second attempt.
Nope, that's definitely part of the experience.
Heh. WiiU VC does darken everything for unfathomable reasons.
Definitely don't agree about the time and schedule mechanics. Its fantastic, but I can understand why someone wouldn't like it.
At this late stage in the game, I'm used to hearing discussion of this game by people who mostly love and revere it (myself included). It's easy to forget how divisive it was when it came out and still is to newcomers. So I can laugh and enjoy this video while still considering the game one of my all time favorites.
The time system to me was just amazing and I very rarely felt overwhelmed by it (especially with the slowing down mechanic and the bunny hood). I do remember racing to finish a dungeon and I'm pretty sure I didn't beat the boss in time. I however hold that memory fondly. I don't really get stressed often so I can imagine one's personality effecting their enjoyment of this game.
I want to replay it now.
The time system to me was just amazing and I very rarely felt overwhelmed by it (especially with the slowing down mechanic and the bunny hood). I do remember racing to finish a dungeon and I'm pretty sure I didn't beat the boss in time. I however hold that memory fondly. I don't really get stressed often so I can imagine one's personality effecting their enjoyment of this game.
I want to replay it now.
This is probably the best episode he's done since Earthbound.
I was under the impression that James is the cool guy that doesn't afraid of anything/is left leaning, but Mike is the shitty one with the racist views? And that James' worst fault was keeping Mike along for as long as he has?
Yes, James is cool and completely oblivious to the horrible cunts he works and collaborates with on a regular basis.
I get that he's been friends with Mike for a long time and, sure, friendship can be strong enough to look over someone else's shitty views, but publicly James is completely ignoring the abhorrent shit Mike has written and looking at the clip posted above, James also seems to work closely together with other people who have at the very least a rather questionable sense of humour.
I don't want to declare James guilty by association, but it's a bad look that as a public figure he's not even doing what I would consider the bare minimum (e.g. "I'm still friends with Mike, but I completely disagree with his comics") to distance himself from the people surrounding him.
If you have problems with Mike, then direct them at Mike not James.
Also, it was a great episode! I love how he improved over the years.
James is an adult who can take responsibility for his own (in)actions.
Pretty much what I felt like playing the game back when the game released. It felt like a chore, unfun and all that, but there was still some redeeming qualities and I even 100% the game. Was a solid 6-7/10 back then, now a days I wouldn't touch the game at all though.
Lol, when my sister and I were young we rented mm and did not have a clue what to do, the moon kept on destroying us.
I was such a dumb gamer back then.
I was such a dumb gamer back then.
Not a bad watch. I don't agree with his critique though. I never had an issue with the 3 day cycle, gameplay or any of that. It provided an interesting and challenging resource with managing your time, but never felt so scarce or out of my control that I could never get anything done or was being immediately punished.
MM is my favorite game of all time, I think the greatest Zelda. Never understood the issue with the time, if you slow time you have three hours to do what you want. Who has a game sitting of three hours and what activity is so big that it takes three hours. The majority of stuff in the game is NOT on a timer, you can do all the quests leading to a dungeon whenever and the dungeon whenever, think of resetting time as your save. Yes the bombers notebook relies on time but that is why it's the best side quests in the history of video games.
I don't get the issue with the time mechanic, people get agitated for no reason. It's a compelling system wide gameplay mechanic that makes the game very unique.
I don't get the issue with the time mechanic, people get agitated for no reason. It's a compelling system wide gameplay mechanic that makes the game very unique.
yeah, no.
can't get behind his opinion at all.
played majora's mask as a friggin kid (and multiple times after that) and had no problem whatsoever with the time limit, no anxiety, just get to the entrance of the dungeon, save going back to the first day, play the song to slow time and enter the dungeon.
Done. no anxiety , you have plenty of time to finish any of the dungeons that way, and if you can't even realize such a simple method, then sorry, but it's your fault, not the game.
also, what's wrong with tight challenges where you need to polish your skills to complete them? what's the point of some obstacle if you are going to win either if you are playing like shit or getting into the mechanics?
shit like this is what ruined portal 2 and all those other games that get focus tested to shit .
is the game perfect? not at all, some parts could have been better designed (like the part with the bridges and the goron mask, not because it needed precision, but because every time you fail it takes a bit too much time to go back for a new try, but some parts he complained about, like the whirpool room where you are just suppose to go with the current and you will be able to eneter any tunnel with precision, and even if you miss it, that same current is gonna bring you back for a new try in no time.
it's really strange for someone that delved in some of the hardest nes games to be so concerned by a bit of challenge.
can't get behind his opinion at all.
played majora's mask as a friggin kid (and multiple times after that) and had no problem whatsoever with the time limit, no anxiety, just get to the entrance of the dungeon, save going back to the first day, play the song to slow time and enter the dungeon.
Done. no anxiety , you have plenty of time to finish any of the dungeons that way, and if you can't even realize such a simple method, then sorry, but it's your fault, not the game.
also, what's wrong with tight challenges where you need to polish your skills to complete them? what's the point of some obstacle if you are going to win either if you are playing like shit or getting into the mechanics?
shit like this is what ruined portal 2 and all those other games that get focus tested to shit .
is the game perfect? not at all, some parts could have been better designed (like the part with the bridges and the goron mask, not because it needed precision, but because every time you fail it takes a bit too much time to go back for a new try, but some parts he complained about, like the whirpool room where you are just suppose to go with the current and you will be able to eneter any tunnel with precision, and even if you miss it, that same current is gonna bring you back for a new try in no time.
it's really strange for someone that delved in some of the hardest nes games to be so concerned by a bit of challenge.
This is probably relevant; he's playing it as an adult, with another relationship to time (heh).
Solid episode. Great to see The Nerd play something that isn't shitty but also hasn't aged well in certain area's.
It definitely has some annoying gameplay mechanics, I feel his pain lol
It definitely has some annoying gameplay mechanics, I feel his pain lol
Watched this today. Highly entertaining take on a classic game. Especially when he tapes a bag of shit about his head as a metaphor for impending doom lol
I played MM back when it came out on N64. I remember disliking it at first, pushing through anyway, and then considering it a very good game by the end.
That being said, I've never felt the need to replay it. I even own the 3DS version, but I've never even booted it up.
That being said, I've never felt the need to replay it. I even own the 3DS version, but I've never even booted it up.