This has been said to death but Angry Joe should be banned here.
It's frankly baffling that mods are silent about this.
It's frankly baffling that mods are silent about this.
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Angry Joe really went full misogyny with The Last of Us Part II huh? [possible spoilers]
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There are plenty of shitty people I find funny, being entertaining and being shitty aren't mutually exclusive.
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Because this thread is about his misogynistic remarks. Which you still haven't said a thing about.
Like I said in the other thread, this is absolutely disgusting, and I've seen permanent bans for less.
And also, again like people said in the other thread, I'm super glad TLOU 2 is fully exposing all the dumbasses around.
And also, again like people said in the other thread, I'm super glad TLOU 2 is fully exposing all the dumbasses around.
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Literally one of Joe's critiques of the story is that a woman is too buff and that that needs MORE of an explanation in the game that he barely paid attention to and left the room multiple times while playing while referring to shit that was explained in his absence as plot holes. While then saying that some characters don't die because the game wants to kill all men and the thesis for his review is that the game wanted to shit on Joel.
How anyone could think that he had any good points given his behavior on stream is beyond me. If a dude who was half paying attention to a game is the person you're going to for validation about a story you think is bad then 🤦♂️
The issue with your criticism is you don't go into WHY it's a shit story. You simply state it's a shit story as if it's some objective truth. In order for it to be actual criticism you need to break it down. There are plenty of reasons not to like the story but when you don't elaborate and then end a post with "it's cool to be offended by everything these days" you're just one of those anti-SJW chuds so why would anyone actually bother engaging with you in good faith?
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When he first started doing reviews, there was something alluring to his more deep dive reviews, but now most reviewers go more in depth with talks after their initial reviews, and a lot of reviews are longer nowadays, what made him big isn't as appealing anymore.
Personally, I lost interest during his QB streams, when he would walk away from the game during TV show portions. Was one of the first streams I watched, but when he said the tv show stuff was boring and pointless in the QB review, I was just like, "not shit, you barely watched it."
Like, even if you don't like something, you should still be trying to get engaged, or at least be in the room when it's playing.
Nobody should be surprised by gamers nitpicking everything about the realism of Abby's body but not any other character.
The same people that say diversity of characters in games is only okay if it is completely justified by the story, otherwise it is pandering.
The same people that say diversity of characters in games is only okay if it is completely justified by the story, otherwise it is pandering.
And here we have a game where it was justified by the story but a dude who wasn't paying attention and tbch generally is terrible when it comes to plot and story analysis with his critique often being surface level and poorly thought out, especially when it comes to media that makes him feel in anyway emasculated, (TLJ), missed the obvious parts that showed us why Abby looks the way she does.
No one is triggered except pathetic misogynistic manchildren who can't handle the revolutionary idea of muscular women in vidya games after decades of objectifying, sexualizing, infantalizing & otherwise demeaning depictions of women.
I liked Angry Joe reviews not going to lie. I dont keep up with the drama and I havent been a fan for super long but the reaction by gamers to TLoU2 is embarrassing.
I stayed away from most of the talk before the game came out and avoided spoilers and went in blind.
After beating the game I knew there was controversy but now realizing it's all based on the identities and physical attributes makes me so sad as thos game is amazing and I am sure will cause a huge impact to the gaming community like the first one did
I stayed away from most of the talk before the game came out and avoided spoilers and went in blind.
After beating the game I knew there was controversy but now realizing it's all based on the identities and physical attributes makes me so sad as thos game is amazing and I am sure will cause a huge impact to the gaming community like the first one did
You are banned but I would love to hear what is "bad" about the game.
Most of the complaints have been addressed over and over and yet it always boils down to "I believe it sucks cause it doesn't make sense to me" even when the game adresses it.
Also using "triggered" for something like this is tasteless and insulting to victims of traumas.
Abby is a unit and of course she had special access to anything that she wanted from Issac.
AngryJoe quality has come down lately in a dramatic way.
I watched a few times his stream playing the game and the dude just didn't care about the story because he saw the leaks.
He was leaving the room every 10 minutes.. tossing the controller.. going away and even talking over the most important parts of the plot.
I believe he even missed the part when Ellie said that she wants to try to forgive Joel. You can't miss that man is the best part of the game.
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I have to say I don't understand the culture here where if a content creator is viewed as racist, sexist, bigot or whatever, that everyone calls for them to be banned, and then they most likely are.
Don't you think these people need to be talked about MORE than those with whom we share opinions? Is it not more important to see that these sorts of people exist and discuss how and why they got here, he'll even call them out on their behaviour, rather than just sweeping them under the rug and pretending they don't exist? That doesn't help anything.
I think it's important to have discourse about and with people who have these sorts of views rather than just dismissing them
Don't you think these people need to be talked about MORE than those with whom we share opinions? Is it not more important to see that these sorts of people exist and discuss how and why they got here, he'll even call them out on their behaviour, rather than just sweeping them under the rug and pretending they don't exist? That doesn't help anything.
I think it's important to have discourse about and with people who have these sorts of views rather than just dismissing them
If you don't see anything to disagree with, then you agree with Joe's disgusting misogyny.
From what I saw, he would
||kill Abby over and over repeatedly when you first play as her, jumping off of stuff and laughing at it. Which wouldn't be an issue, until you realize his issue with the leaks, and why he's doing it, because of hte scene that's comes up not long after.
And it felt like he would dismiss stuff as bad writing as soon as a scene would start, not even giving it time to end to make that judgement.
We can discuss their bigotry & shitty views when they pop up without signal boosting their content outside of that kind of discussion.
And to think I used to like Joe. He's really fallen off.
Also, this obsession over how Abby looks or her build continues to be completely mind boggling. It's hilarious (aka sad) how narrow a box women are supposed to fit into when it comes to their demeanor and appearance.
Also, this obsession over how Abby looks or her build continues to be completely mind boggling. It's hilarious (aka sad) how narrow a box women are supposed to fit into when it comes to their demeanor and appearance.
Am I confusing it with something else, or didn't he also
think that character was trans before the leak, adding a transphobic aspect to that as well?
It's fine, I watched his reviews for years too, so I get the appeal. I just tuned out when I started to see him change. His reactions to TLOU are just the culmination of that.
As long as you understand why it's problematic, it's all good. And it seems that's the case
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My first red flag came when he called Holdo from The Last Jedi "Admiral Gender Studies"...because she has purple hair...
It all came downhill fast from there.
Do you think people are mad because people dont enjoy the story? Or are you like many who are mad at a buff woman, lesbians, and a trans man being the stars of the game?
Judging by your comment it's probably the latter
I remember watching his stream for that. Honestly wasn't expecting a 10, he seemed like he wasn't having fun with hte combat in 1, but maybe as he got the hang of it he started enjying it more. He only streamed the first few hours of 1, and then put the review out like 2 or 3 days later.. Can't believe
He thinks Ellie was turned into a lesbian for this game. I guess he could have forgotten that Left Behind moment, but you'd think he'd research that for his review..
gettin flashbacks of that person who made a bunch of videos exclusively killing the feminist in Red Dead Redemption 2
Normally I would agree with you, but I think Joe has become so complacent and lazy that he doesn't put forth anything meaningful enough to engage with. He clearly doesn't put the same effort into his content that he used to and just throwing his hands up and going "she's not a man", while only half-heartedly paying attention to the game that he made up his mind about before it was even released is not the kind of critical thinking I look for out of my video game critics.
He's not worth it.
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A trans related slur in his leak reaction. That someone else tweeted him, but he didn't censor anything out. Not sure if he took personal issue with it potentially being a trans character. Contorversy was he shouldn't have read teh slur I believe.
I watched it and it's pretty obvious that it's just a rant about him not getting the game he wants. Not even trying to understand the story or characters. The only part of an objective review is at the very end, about graphics, animation quality, etc.. .
The rest of the review is just: I can't play Joel = shitty writing, Abby = i hate her, Ellie = they destroyed her aka shitty writing.
The rest of the review is just: I can't play Joel = shitty writing, Abby = i hate her, Ellie = they destroyed her aka shitty writing.
hmmm.. maybe you're right. Though, I'm not too old to learn learn new tricks and I'm open minded and willing to have my opinion changed.
From memory (admittedly I watched the review in-between matches of Warzone, so was a bit stop/start) here's what I took away from the review...
- He enjoyed playing as Abby, but the character was set up wrong
- Wanted to play more as Ellie
- Didn't like how Ellie was portrayed due to his fondness of her from the first game
- He also just didn't like the game and how Joel was handled
Now, what did I miss? What did he say in this review that was so misogynistic?
Well Joe's been an absolute tosser complaing about the "SJWs" for some time now so not sure why people are surprised he's full masks off now.
Fuck him.
Nothing wrong with TLOU2, only thing I would like to change
Fuck him.
Nothing wrong with TLOU2, only thing I would like to change
is starting as Abby, hunting this guy who killed her father (but not mentioning Joel) and then after she kills him, you play as Elly on the revenge plot.
No individual mod has the power to declare him a banned source. This will be discussed among staff shortly, though.
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The opening minutes of his review have him hawking the "pewdiepie flavored g-fuel" products.
This is slowly getting into Alex Jones territory. Stoking controversy in order to sell ..protein? Caffeine??
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Don't forget during the controversy when he said a transphobic slur during the leaks.
Then Cyberpunk 2077 tweet about gender options, concern trolling.
This guy goes on these anti-"SJW" rants all the time ever since Battlefield 5. Same with The Last Jedi. This dude is just hateful.
How he reacted to school shootings with pro-gun propaganda.
Angry Joe defends AR-15s against those who want to "take guns from everyone"
Given that he is a large gaming personality whose content often gets his own threads, I think it's important to have a thread for this, as we do for other gaming personalities when they do or say something harmful even if not directly related to gaming. This is disingenuous propaganda that is...
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And then the sexual harassment, now.
Angry Joe accused of sexual harassment/predatory behaviour [Updates from both posted]
https://medium.com/@WookieMonsterTV/my-interaction-with-angryjoe-d715aedb0e02 Much, much more at the link including screencaps of text conversations. Update: Joe Responds https://www.resetera.com/threads/angryjoe-responds-to-sexual-assault-allegations.234028/#post-37878064
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how could anyone not love amanda nunes...
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Who doesn't love the GOAT? Was it Angry Sex Offender Joe?
Fucking bullshit. You meet at least two dozen jacked characters as enemies alone. Most of the guys she's with are jacked, too. They're army people, it's their fucking job to be jacked.
I posted this in the other thread, go to any of the twitch clips he has here or vods here, report them for TOS Violation (as they are), cite the TOS about hate speech and harassment and do it for the videos. if enough reports come in, he will be perma'd from twitch. Its a lost cause on youtube, but at least twitch is aiming to change for the better with the recent things going on.
From what I can tell he already had his negative opinion from the leaks.
There's a part where he's like 'Well, if we had built a connection with this character, and built that muscle, then...' and it's such bullshit, because also the point is being made of 'Who's this? This should be Ellie's story'.
It's post-hoc rationalisations of a dislike for the game that was based on leaks.
There's a part where he's like 'Well, if we had built a connection with this character, and built that muscle, then...' and it's such bullshit, because also the point is being made of 'Who's this? This should be Ellie's story'.
It's post-hoc rationalisations of a dislike for the game that was based on leaks.
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