I very much agree that I want to hear his side of the story too.
Howevever, the people who outright say that there is nothing wrong with the described behaviour, I do not like.
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Angry Joe accused of sexual harassment/predatory behaviour [Updates from both posted]
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Howevever, the people who outright say that there is nothing wrong with the described behaviour, I do not like.
It's hard to know without hearing the actual exchange, if he told her that he would just quickly fetch something at the hotel and it turned into a shower invitation it's manipulative and shitty. If it was him telling her that he needed to go to the hotel quickly to shower and get ready for the meeting and then jokingly asked her to join while they were there I could classify it as awkward flirting (if he was under the assumption that they were on some form of date)
I missed the part about him handing her phone and purse to some other guy and if that happened it would definitely be predatory behavior.
I don't expect the "angry gamer" demographic to be particularly keyed in when it comes to what is appropriate and what is inappropriate. So yeah, I'm not even remotely surprised here.
Rolf may be one of the few people I wouldn't expect to engage in that kind of shit. I don't like The Angry Video Game Nerd's comedy, but I appreciate that the AVGN IS a character. Rolf makes that abundantly clear. It gets hard to tell when these other fucks are playing their "character" or are giving their sincere opinions. Their personalities seem to blur. That is a giant red flag.
So yeah, I am never surprised when one of these angry review style YouTubers ends up being a parasite. Honestly, it almost always seems to just be a matter of time before it all comes out with these types.
It's not "woke" to believe accounts from a victim of sexual harassment/assault, it's the bare minimum for being a decent human being.
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Wow so no self reflection at all and then proceeds to straight up call her a liar? Fucking hell.
He has been trash for ages now, but this? This is beyond the pale. This dude needs to be fucking gone. Never wanna see another thread about his reviews on here after this.
Yeah, regardless of what is true or isn't, his reaction is not the greatest... That reaction makes the courageous individual's accusation more credible imo as he is acting like exactly how she described him.
Kudos to her though, knowing that this will unleash a lot more harrassment from incels she still came out with the story. All so it doesn't happen to other women as well.
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Yall are insane he didn't even do anything wrong, according to her. Most of her story hasn't even been backed up by anyone.
I bet you believed Amber Heard.... Why don't you wait for facts before demonizing someone. My mom was a rape victim and as a Black Man my mom always warned me about white women trying to trap me.
Then why did he make a 7 minute apology video asking people to help him be better? https://youtu.be/PaETuRcjXBs
Some more stuff surrounding the Itmejp stuff.
Long thread, but apparently Anne Munition said that she didn't trust Kaitlyn because she's a habitual liar, which led Kaitlyn to sharing DMs on her stream and her chat harassing Anne in a now deleted VoD. They got into it in this thread, where another streamer calls Kaitlyn manipulative, and Anne claims she grooms guys that are 10 years younger than her. None of it clears JP of harassment, just additional allegations in the community.
The comment from Shannon goes off in it's own thread between the two. And half an hour later, after more back and forth is when Anne makes her allegation.
Long thread, but apparently Anne Munition said that she didn't trust Kaitlyn because she's a habitual liar, which led Kaitlyn to sharing DMs on her stream and her chat harassing Anne in a now deleted VoD. They got into it in this thread, where another streamer calls Kaitlyn manipulative, and Anne claims she grooms guys that are 10 years younger than her. None of it clears JP of harassment, just additional allegations in the community.
The comment from Shannon goes off in it's own thread between the two. And half an hour later, after more back and forth is when Anne makes her allegation.
I didn't know he responded already, time to see what he says in more detail too *the video is now private, any mirrors?*
Smdftb, boi.
"She could have made up the sexual harassment accusation because she disagreed with his opinion on a videogame" must be a peak gamer take.
You can always tell by the reaction of the accused.
If it was literally just a misunderstanding or misreading of signals, he would express that respectfully. Apologize that she felt that way because of him and probably say something about he will reflect on his interactions so someone doesn't feel that way again.
Instead he is a complete dick about it. Which points to her story being quite true, or at least large chunks of it.
If it was literally just a misunderstanding or misreading of signals, he would express that respectfully. Apologize that she felt that way because of him and probably say something about he will reflect on his interactions so someone doesn't feel that way again.
Instead he is a complete dick about it. Which points to her story being quite true, or at least large chunks of it.
James Rolfe is the guy who popularized this shtick, and all in all he's a good dude.
Mike Matei tho...
This is majorly dissapointing, cause I do like the ocntent from the channel, mostly his older stuff, but the other two Joe's are fun.
I do think the people jumping on here saying that they somehow knew, just because they didn't like him are extremely cringe. Congrats I guess if that's what you were aiming for?
I hope he responds in an appropriate manner.
I do think the people jumping on here saying that they somehow knew, just because they didn't like him are extremely cringe. Congrats I guess if that's what you were aiming for?
I hope he responds in an appropriate manner.
All the recent allegations against people late me just reaffirms my life motto to never idolize anyways. Never stan anyone. Most people who climb their way to the top of their fields end up being a shitty person in one way or another. It's an extension of never meet your heros.
These people in here defending people accused of harrassment and assault make me furious! Maybe I have confirmation bias because I already can't stand Angry Joe? But there's no need to defend him, because frankly you weren't there and you really have no idea what actually happened.
There's no need to try and defend or defame anyone involved. We as a community should be here to demonstrate kindness and empathy to the victims.
There's no need to try and defend or defame anyone involved. We as a community should be here to demonstrate kindness and empathy to the victims.
The comments on the page with the whole story are.... something. The way these people look at what's appropriate and what's not is warped to say the least.
We shouldn't.
I can understand being shocked that someone you are a fan of would be a shitty person, I can even understand wanting more info before you stop being a fan, but trying to defend them, or defame the accuser is gross
Yeah, well I'm not buying it, I think Rolfe is just silent on these things as it pays the bills. He knew Matei and their opinions on things. They have been friends for ages, I simply cannot escape the crap pushed by Mike, whom Rolfe still pushes content for btw.
Sorry if I seem harsh, but this angry gamer shit has bitten me in the arse too often. I used to enjoy it though. I will not deny that, there are just soo many problematic people in these circles people that should just be in jail.
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It's why sexism, racism and assault keep happening over and over and over and people think it doesn't actually exist. They don't understand the proper way to treat people. It's sickening
lol I'm not sure where this comes from. If it didn't happen the way she said, why wouldn't you be furious?
Having said that, ain't no misreading of signals. If you purposefully try to isolate a woman from her friends and her boyfriend, you're a fucking dick. And if he really snapped out and said all that "You're just like all the others" stuff, there's no other way to look at that tantrum besides trying to emotionally manipulate her. That stuff can't be seen another way IMO.
That was a rough read. How one human being can treat another like he treated her is absolutely despicable. Not surprised in the least if this is true about Joe. He's homophobic and transphobic too? Jesus. I bet he denies everything. He's done this shit before too because he seems pretty practiced at it from reading the entire account.
Cause he is a public figure and being a dick, even with false accusations makes you look either guilty or look bad either way.
If I got falsely accused, yeah I would be pissed. But I wouldn't treat that person like shit on social media or in person. I'd lawyer up and deal with it that way.
Yeah. There's a difference between being silent when your partner is making TERRIBLE statements and disassociating yourself from it.
I mean he did say he was lawyering up. To me that's actually worse than snapping though? Like, what's he going to do? Sue her? Witnesses will be biased in his favor because "he's Angry Joe" and because society hates women so he'd be likely to win. That looks shitty to me. There's no way to turn this in his favor, especially if there aren't anymore texts.
There's no right way to emotionally react to a sexual assault allegation. Doesn't matter if he's guilty or innocent this is gonna linger on him for the rest of his life in the public eye.
He has veen quite threatening in regards to lawyers, suing etc. I imagine he has more than enough money to do this. He is also being supported and cheered by hundreds of fans.
The poor woman must be terrified.
Yeah, there is more to this.
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Snapping destroys him in public opinion. If he is absolutely innocent, talking to a lawyer, putting out a calm well written public statement and then yeah. Getting falsely accused you should talk to a lawyer, the lawyer will suggest a course of action but it's important to talk with one. Hell if you are as big as he is get a lawyer or a pr firm to help you out together a proper statement, maybe mention how much you support victims of sexual assault, make a donation to a fund, I don't know.
Snapping on Twitter is no bueno
I understand wanting both sides of a story, but you can treat the accusations as serious and support the victim even if you have some skepticism imo.
Though if you call her and attention seeker, or say that she was leading him on (how TF can you get that from the story?) you can fuck off.
Not really directed at anyone here fyi. But I made the mistake of reading this on Reddit, and we'll...
Though if you call her and attention seeker, or say that she was leading him on (how TF can you get that from the story?) you can fuck off.
Not really directed at anyone here fyi. But I made the mistake of reading this on Reddit, and we'll...
Reading that was something else. I felt almost dizzy and a little sick afterwards tbh. I'm not trying to be melodramatic but the pace of the evening and his controlling behavior was very discombobulating. The shower stuff was very Weinstein then you have the dude that gave her a business card. I almost feel like Joe told that guy to do that.
Everything was so orchestrated and although it was obviously threatening at times it was also pretty subtle which must have really confused her because it's hard to aggressively push back when you are being slowly and methodically controlled. Although it was a very different encounter I got a similar feeling reading this story as I did reading the Aziz Ansari incident.
Everything was so orchestrated and although it was obviously threatening at times it was also pretty subtle which must have really confused her because it's hard to aggressively push back when you are being slowly and methodically controlled. Although it was a very different encounter I got a similar feeling reading this story as I did reading the Aziz Ansari incident.
Ignore them. They're being jackasses and they know it. This isn't about any concern for people being sexually harassed for them. This is about scoring points on the people who liked this youtuber they don't like.
Let's not give them the platform to do that and concentrate on making sure these women are heard instead.
To say I feel betrayed by Joe is an understatement, and his latest tweet doesn't seem like this is going to go a way I could be comfortable continuing to watch him, which really sucks.
Some pretty awful predatory tactics from Joe's part. Here's a tip, state your intentions. Way less women will accompany you back to your hotel room but at least you will know you're not coercing them into having sex because you're a "star". Also, wanna find people who don't use you as a step to gain popularity? stop using it to meet new people. Put your feet on the ground Joe your farts don't smell good asshole!
In regards to the victim, I probably wouldn't have the courage to speak up, mad respects. Hopefully this will help her move on from the event, although one does not "move on" from things like these, at least she will know she did all she could.
In regards to the victim, I probably wouldn't have the courage to speak up, mad respects. Hopefully this will help her move on from the event, although one does not "move on" from things like these, at least she will know she did all she could.