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SolidSnakeUS · May 13, 2020

As someone who has been using Google phones since the Nexus 6P, I seriously hope that Google stops their bullshit and actually makes a cohesive product that we would actually want to buy and is marketed a shit load better. Plus, don't release it in Oct/Nov, release it in like June or something.

Noema · May 13, 2020

SolidSnakeUS said:
As someone who has been using Google phones since the Nexus 6P, I seriously hope that Google stops their bullshit and actually makes a cohesive product that we would actually want to buy and is marketed a shit load better. Plus, don't release it in Oct/Nov, release it in like June or something.

And if they are intent to release a phone in November, at least give it the enhanced version of the SoC available that year. The Pixel 4 launching that late without the SD855+ at that price is just baffling.

SolidSnakeUS · May 13, 2020

Noema said:
And if they are intent to release a phone in November, at least give it the enhanced version of the SoC available that year. The Pixel 4 launching that late without the SD855+ at that price is just baffling.

The thing is, when it comes out at that time, it's always 6 months before the next and better SoC. So why not wait for the better item at that point? Pixel's release time frame feels like a middle iteration of what's already out, so why should most people bother?

brawndolicious · May 13, 2020

Noema said:
And if they are intent to release a phone in November, at least give it the enhanced version of the SoC available that year. The Pixel 4 launching that late without the SD855+ at that price is just baffling.

Normally this is pretty annoying when there's a node shrink every year or some big new features but the jump from 855 to 865 was pretty minor and iterative (skipping 855+ altogether for this example). I don't even think most hardcore users would notice the difference when it comes to any app you would run on a smartphone.

And 5G doesn't really matter yet. I remember back in 2010 when 4G started rolling out and people were running around like headless chicken bragging about download speeds near the one LTE tower in their city while always carrying a charger in their pocket. Then the iPhone 5 came out two years later after battery efficiency and network coverage actually got to the point that it's not a gimmick.

DrFunk · May 14, 2020

I'm really surprised at how good these TCL mid-rangers are. It could make a good secondary phone or a replacement for the gf:

TCL 10L review: Stretching what you get for $250

It's not often we get a new name in the Android ecosystem, but following its freshman Plex, TCL is putting its best foot forward with three new phones

www.androidpolice.com

TCL 10 Pro and 10L review: A great starting point

TCL is mostly known in the U.S. for its consumer televisions, but it's looking to establish itself as a serious player in the mobile space as well, with two new phones affordable ...

www.androidcentral.com

Deleted member 17092 · May 14, 2020

brawndolicious said:
Normally this is pretty annoying when there's a node shrink every year or some big new features but the jump from 855 to 865 was pretty minor and iterative (skipping 855+ altogether for this example). I don't even think most hardcore users would notice the difference when it comes to any app you would run on a smartphone.

And 5G doesn't really matter yet. I remember back in 2010 when 4G started rolling out and people were running around like headless chicken bragging about download speeds near the one LTE tower in their city while always carrying a charger in their pocket. Then the iPhone 5 came out two years later after battery efficiency and network coverage actually got to the point that it's not a gimmick.

Isn't most of T-Mobiles "5G" literally just it's 600mhz band 71 that you also get in 4g lte?

neoak · May 14, 2020

ZOONAMI said:
Isn't most of T-Mobiles "5G" literally just it's 600mhz band 71 that you also get in 4g lte?

Which is what 99% of humankind will get: 5G on current LTE bands.

Deleted member 17092 · May 14, 2020

neoak said:
Which is what 99% of humankind will get: 5G on current LTE bands.

Personally I see no reason for 5G. Most of the time my tmobile lte is just as fast if not faster than my hardwired Comcast.

Hasney · May 14, 2020

5G mm wave is in one part of my city that my dentist is in. Samurai Showdown on Stadia played great. Not a single hiccup.

Now to barely use 5G or Stadia again.

neoak · May 14, 2020

ZOONAMI said:
Personally I see no reason for 5G. Most of the time my tmobile lte is just as fast if not faster than my hardwired Comcast.

Higher efficiency. Can't get more bandwidth out of the same wavelengths unless you make more efficient use of it.

PanickyFool · May 14, 2020

ZOONAMI said:
Isn't most of T-Mobiles "5G" literally just it's 600mhz band 71 that you also get in 4g lte?

5G is just a LTE (long term evolution) marketing term that aligns with the general availability of mm-wave spectrum. The terrible propagation and penetration properties of mm-wave, mean 5G is a massive (huge) $$$ infrastructure investment in exchange for the spectral bandwidth and speed it provides. But generally speaking 5G is using the same ODFM modulation that 4G used (just more of it). 600MHz is decidedly not mm-wave and will never give you the speed of mm-wave, but is certainly requires the least amout of investment for wide area as well as indoor coverage.

Rodney McKay · May 15, 2020

Been using the OnePlus 7 Pro the last several days and I like it quite a bit, but I do miss quite a few Samsung features from my S10e.

The screen is huge and gorgeous, and not having a hole punch or notch is pretty nice (even if I got used to it on the S10e). I can finally type with decent accuracy again and the 90hz is nice too.
The in-screen fingerprint sensor works surprisingly well as well, and I like the screen off gesture for flashlight.

I do miss some things that I wasn't aware were apparently Samsung exclusive.
I miss being able to make the volume increments smaller (so I can listen to music more quietly at night than the standard lowest volume). I had just found out that it was an option a few weeks before.

I'm also more used to Samsung's gesture controls so far (swipe up-middle for home, up-left for back, up-right for task manager). I find the home swipe up gesture on the oneplus to be more finicky, and the task manager is annoying to do right. I'd leave the nav bar buttons on, but I hate that it has a white background a lot of the time, it looks terrible that way.

Thinking about rooting my phone for the first time in years if I can get some of that functionality back.

Selbran · May 15, 2020

Stephen Hall (9to5Google) tweeted that he's heard the Pixel 4A will be $350 for 128GB storage. That would be a pretty competitive price point for Google.

Honestly, even as somebody who just recently bought an iPhone SE I'd still get a Pixel 4A at that price point.

Rewrite · May 15, 2020

Selbran said:
Stephen Hall (9to5Google) tweeted that he's heard the Pixel 4A will be $350 for 128GB storage. That would be a pretty competitive price point for Google.

Honestly, even as somebody who just recently bought an iPhone SE I'd still get a Pixel 4A at that price point.

Damn, I'd get it too if it's priced like that.

SwampBastard · May 15, 2020

I've been holding off on buying the Pixel Buds 2 to see if they have any kind of package deal with the 4a. Ready to ditch my 4 and get back to a phone with a fingerprint scanner.

Crashnburn85 · May 15, 2020

I just got an S10e, which is a pretty slick little phone, but that Pixel 4a rumored at $349 for 128GB storage is incredibly tempting. My return period on my S10e is coming up in a few days....hmmmm....

Pricing aside, the S10e invariably has the edge on display quality, wireless charging, and build quality. But Pixel 4a will edge out on camera, battery life, and software support. The fingerprint reader location on the S10e is also kind of annoying. Tough call....

Jeff ChickenDig · May 15, 2020

so glad i got in on that price match for the pixel 4 xl.

Got it for $600 at best buy while they also had a $200 gift card promo. not bad secondary phone for $400*.

BoboBrazil · May 15, 2020

Jeff ChickenDig said:
so glad i got in on that price match for the pixel 4 xl.

Got it for $600 at best buy while they also had a $200 gift card promo. not bad secondary phone for $400*.

Glad I got in on that deal and sold it lol. Did not like that phone at all. I'm looking forward to the 4a though.

Jeff ChickenDig · May 15, 2020

what phones/devices yall looking forward to this year?

for me, galaxy fold 2 and lite.

surface duo (allegedly still coming out this year?)

note 20+ (to see how much better this second gen fp sensor gonna be).

new iphone 12 pro's.... if they switch to usb -c (seems unlikely this year).

Aiii · May 15, 2020

With the 8 Pro I already got my device of this year. Still, the iPhone's are always interesting.

The Note 20 had better have proper 120hz and QHD.

BoboBrazil · May 15, 2020

Fold 2 for finally giving a big screen on the front and even bigger when open
iPhone 12 to see what they do with camera and 120hz(potentially)
Pixel 5(I still look forward to it even if they usually screw it up)

Hasney · May 15, 2020

If Fold 2 is usable folded up, 120Hz and fixes the stupid big screen cameras, I'll fold at under £1,000. Anything else and I'll just hold on to this S20+ and wait for 2021

DrFunk · May 15, 2020

I'm strangely interested in that Sony Xperia 1 Mk II

Along with that, the Note 20+

neoak · May 15, 2020

Hasney said:
If Fold 2 is usable folded up, 120Hz and fixes the stupid big screen cameras, I'll fold at under £1,000. Anything else and I'll just hold on to this S20+ and wait for 2021

Ain't happening at that price, so might as well wait

Noema · May 15, 2020

The OP 8 Pro is pretty much the perfect phone in my mind. Now that they have competitive cameras, there's really nothing else I could want in a phone.

It's so good I'd be willing overlook the punch hole (!). If only I could afford one.

Hasney · May 15, 2020

neoak said:
Ain't happening at that price, so might as well wait

I know, but it might drop under there after some time!

Rodney McKay · May 15, 2020

Figured out how to get lower volume in my OnePlus.

The same app I used in Samsung (Precise Volume or something) doesn't work the same way, but if I tweak the EQ settings in the app I can just lower everything and that lowers the overall phone volume.

A little annoying I can't just make it work without going into the app, but at least it's still easily doable.

Jeff ChickenDig said:
what phones/devices yall looking forward to this year?

Surface Duo I'm very interested in, but depends on what the price and the usability will be like for a dual screen android phone. Also worried that the price will be too high.

Fold 2 or any other foldables I'm curious just to see how they've improved over the first generation, even if they're still years away from being affordable.
Honestly, I'd prefer to wait until Apple does a foldable (if ever). I'd love an iPad mini that could fold to phone size, and their tablet app ecosystem is much better than Android.

No regular phones interest me anymore honestly, outside of super long battery life.
Maybe the lower end iPhones if they are getting OLED screens and if they can bump the resolution to at least 1080p

TheDoctor · May 15, 2020

OPPO Reno 4
ROG Phone 3
Nokia 9.3

I'm also curious to see how much better the zoom capabilities of the P40 Pro Plus will be. Lossless zoom is the new differentiator and Huawei is already ahead.

TheMadTitan · May 16, 2020

Jeff ChickenDig said:
what phones/devices yall looking forward to this year?

for me, galaxy fold 2 and lite.

surface duo (allegedly still coming out this year?)

note 20+ (to see how much better this second gen fp sensor gonna be).

new iphone 12 pro's.... if they switch to usb -c (seems unlikely this year).

The Note 20.

Only because if it shows up without a punch hole camera, that means the S30 is my phone to buy.

Kaiyo · May 16, 2020

DrFunk said:
I'm strangely interested in that Sony Xperia 1 Mk II

Along with that, the Note 20+

People that want the 3.5mm (to return) should buy the Xperia 1 II or Xperia 5 II (assuming it's going to follow the 1 II)

ty_hot · May 16, 2020

ZOONAMI said:
Personally I see no reason for 5G. Most of the time my tmobile lte is just as fast if not faster than my hardwired Comcast.

The reason is companies sell 4g and deliver 3g speeds, so with 5g hopefully some of us will be able to have 4g speeds!

Beje · May 17, 2020

Jeff ChickenDig said:
what phones/devices yall looking forward to this year?

I was ready to jump ship on an iPhone XR or 11, but the latest rumours about the 4a being $350 for the 128GB base plus the leaked prototype battery life test being actually good (5+ hours SOT with intensive use and benchmarks, 7+ hours on regular use) peaked my interest. Also the rumours about the Nokia 6.3 that popped up in Reddit telling that it's coming in Q3, upgrading to a SD730 (same as the 4a) and being designed "with single handed use in mind".

So, I'll just wait to see what can both the 4a and 6.3 offer and see what do I do. I just couldn't care less about the tablets they're selling nowadays as Android phones unfortunately. For reference, I've had a Nokia 7 Plus since it released 2 years ago because it ticked all the boxes I wanted, and I absolutely hate its size so much that even without a case it feels too big.

TheDestructiveSquirrel · May 18, 2020

Where in Android can I find the settings so when I paste something into a text box it replaces what is already there and doesn't just paste at the end of the existing text. For the life of me I can't even remember what setting this would be called in Microsoft Word.

Edit - It's overtype, but not exactly what I'm looking for.

In Pokemon Go I use an app to scan the Pokemon and rename it based on the rating it has, the app automatically copies the new name into the clipboard and then you just insert it and it's done, but lately it is adding the copied text to the end of the Pokemon's existing name which doesn't work as the text box doesn't have enough room. No idea if I changed a setting or it was changed in a software update or something but it's annoying me =/

Rodney McKay · May 18, 2020

Man, it's taking me longer to get used to a more "pure" (or at least non-Samsung) version of Android on my OnePlus 7 Pro.
It took me multiple days to figure out how to get notifications exactly how I want them.

Specifically with Twitter, I want to have the app icon appear in the notification bar, but not to have a noise or vibration alert me to it.
In older versions of Android or modified versions it was just in the specific app settings>notifications and then I could make any change I wanted from there.

Now those settings are buried a little deeper. There's a bunch of switches like usual to turn off specific notifications in apps, but the sound/vibration settings aren't right there. You have to tap on the name of the specific notification (like "new tweets", or "direct messages") and at least on my phone there's zero visual indication that you can even tap on the names for more settings.
I spent ages Googling solutions and eventually found an app that let's you do what I wanted until I stumbled on the right nested settings menu I was looking for.

Even having done it last night, I had already forgotten how to get back there tonight as I tried to find it again to make this post.
Maybe it's just the OnePlus skin that makes it harder to see that those notification names are buttons, or it's just poor UI design.

Kaiyo · May 18, 2020

Rodney McKay said:
Man, it's taking me longer to get used to a more "pure" (or at least non-Samsung) version of Android on my OnePlus 7 Pro.
It took me multiple days to figure out how to get notifications exactly how I want them.

Specifically with Twitter, I want to have the app icon appear in the notification bar, but not to have a noise or vibration alert me to it.
In older versions of Android or modified versions it was just in the specific app settings>notifications and then I could make any change I wanted from there.

Now those settings are buried a little deeper. There's a bunch of switches like usual to turn off specific notifications in apps, but the sound/vibration settings aren't right there. You have to tap on the name of the specific notification (like "new tweets", or "direct messages") and at least on my phone there's zero visual indication that you can even tap on the names for more settings.
I spent ages Googling solutions and eventually found an app that let's you do what I wanted until I stumbled on the right nested settings menu I was looking for.

Even having done it last night, I had already forgotten how to get back there tonight as I tried to find it again to make this post.
Maybe it's just the OnePlus skin that makes it harder to see that those notification names are buttons, or it's just poor UI design.

I don't have the one plus, but on Android 10 you go to the (specific) app info then notification and select on the specific type of notification (if it's not on silent already there's a bell icon on the left of it) e.g. direct message and then put it to silent.

BoboBrazil · May 18, 2020

Samsung has the S20 on sale for $720 and S20+ on sale for $899 with perksatwork or school discount. With perksatwork you also get 20% in rewards points with them. You also get a $50 samsung credit with the S20+ and you can get an additional 5% off your purchase using code ref-qdszn2 at checkout or using this link

Mod Edit. Referral code removed.

Tempted to buy a S20+. Had a S20 before, but sold it because it was too small and this is a killer deal with the rewards points.

TheDestructiveSquirrel · May 18, 2020

There was something similar to that in Canada

20% off with a coupon and 200 dollars trade-in with any phone

I think it'll go lower, they must be hurting for sales

Rewrite · May 18, 2020

Rodney McKay said:
Man, it's taking me longer to get used to a more "pure" (or at least non-Samsung) version of Android on my OnePlus 7 Pro.
It took me multiple days to figure out how to get notifications exactly how I want them.

Specifically with Twitter, I want to have the app icon appear in the notification bar, but not to have a noise or vibration alert me to it.
In older versions of Android or modified versions it was just in the specific app settings>notifications and then I could make any change I wanted from there.

Now those settings are buried a little deeper. There's a bunch of switches like usual to turn off specific notifications in apps, but the sound/vibration settings aren't right there. You have to tap on the name of the specific notification (like "new tweets", or "direct messages") and at least on my phone there's zero visual indication that you can even tap on the names for more settings.
I spent ages Googling solutions and eventually found an app that let's you do what I wanted until I stumbled on the right nested settings menu I was looking for.

Even having done it last night, I had already forgotten how to get back there tonight as I tried to find it again to make this post.
Maybe it's just the OnePlus skin that makes it harder to see that those notification names are buttons, or it's just poor UI design.

Good news! I think you were the one who posted about the low volume level not being enough, OnePlus will be tweaking the audio in a later update to make the current low volume even lower.

Dark Mode Quick Settings toggle coming to OxygenOS, plus other tweaks planned

As part of its monthly Q&A (or FAQ — the company calls it both), OnePlus has just revealed a handful of smaller but still much-appreciated

www.androidpolice.com

Other stuff include a dark mode toggle in the quick settings too.

Rodney McKay · May 19, 2020

Rewrite said:
Good news! I think you were the one who posted about the low volume level not being enough, OnePlus will be tweaking the audio in a later update to make the current low volume even lower.

Dark Mode Quick Settings toggle coming to OxygenOS, plus other tweaks planned

As part of its monthly Q&A (or FAQ — the company calls it both), OnePlus has just revealed a handful of smaller but still much-appreciated

www.androidpolice.com

Other stuff include a dark mode toggle in the quick settings too.

Awesome! I managed a work around with the app Precise Volume by lowering all the EQ settings, but it's nice to know I probably won't need it much longer.

The new task switcher looks great too, having all the app icons at the bottom is really smart. The one built into it is pretty mediocre, I much preferred Samsung's solutions, like how you can have it be organized as a list.

Now if they can just add the option to put the brightness bar directly under the quick action buttons (without doing a double swipe down or a two finger swipe down)
The OnePlus 7 Pro's auto brightness isn't the best, it's probably because it doesn't have a traditional front camera.

RyanPrime_ · May 19, 2020

Xperia 1 MK II out this week in Japan

Hopefully there will be the standard UK/EU release in June

RM8 · May 19, 2020

HigXx said:
Xperia 1 MK II out this week in Japan

Hopefully there will be the standard UK/EU release in June

I'm more tempted to buy the 10 II, which is already out in Taiwan IIRC but not here in Japan :(

DrFunk · May 19, 2020

Deleted member 4212 · May 19, 2020

What is it that makes phone calls ring on my MacBook? I thought it was Pushbullet for a long time, but I got a new work laptop and I haven't installed Pushbullet on my S20 so it's not that. Is it just being signed in to Chrome?

BoboBrazil · May 19, 2020

DrFunk said:

This thing is gonna bomb so hard

neoak · May 19, 2020

DrFunk said:

999 Pixel 5
765G
1800mAh battery
Same 12MP camera as Pixel 4
Same 64/128/whatever storage with no microSD
No headphone jack

And then they will wonder why it doesn't sell when stuff like the Nokia 8.3 5G exists

Noema · May 19, 2020

neoak said:
999 Pixel 5
765G
1800mAh battery
Same 12MP camera as Pixel 4
Same 64/128/whatever storage with no microSD
No headphone jack

And then they will wonder why it doesn't sell when stuff like the Nokia 8.3 5G exists

120Hz display that only refreshes at 120Hz when at +95% battery and idling on the home screen
Have to choose between 60Hz 1080p and 120Hz 720p
USB C port is on the side
Face unlock but you have to use the back camera.
2MP macro camera instead of an ultrawide.
A notch AND a punchhole and bezels

Aiii · May 19, 2020

Note that, 5 generations in, you still can't officially buy a Pixel device outside of a select few countries.

TheDoctor · May 19, 2020

LG Velvet Unboxing [4K]

- LG launched a new phone called Velvet instead of V60 and G9 here in South Korea.It comes with Snapdragon 765, 8GB RAM, 128GB storage, 4300mAh battery, and ...

www.youtube.com

The new $700 premium midranger from LG.

reKon · May 20, 2020

neoak said:
999 Pixel 5
765G
1800mAh battery
Same 12MP camera as Pixel 4
Same 64/128/whatever storage with no microSD
No headphone jack

And then they will wonder why it doesn't sell when stuff like the Nokia 8.3 5G exists

Pixlel fanboys are going to have a very rough year.

Beje · May 20, 2020

The Nokia 8.3 already got slammed for being "way too expensive" at 600€, having more or less the chipet/memory/features that the Pixel 5 is expected to have. Anything more than that (especially if coupled with a sub-par battery for like the 5th time in a row) and it's toast.

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