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Andrew Reiner from GI (Rumor): PS5 target specs higher than Scarlett
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Faster installations/loadings mainly. The looks isn't really the sdd work.
I think this is one of those things where the power is SO high, and they are both targeting the same price range using essentially the same hardware minus some small tweaks here and there, that at the end of the day any difference between them is going to be moot.
DF: If we zoom in 20000% percent onto that tree 8 miles away, we can see the PS5 looks slightly better.
DF: If we zoom in 20000% percent onto that tree 8 miles away, we can see the PS5 looks slightly better.
Well when you see the visual upgrade the pro gave to PSVR over base PS4, Then yeah can only imagine what the PS5 will do for it and it's games, Especially Impulse Gear who gave us Farpoint, Still a looker to this day.
Yup. It's kinda crazy when we think about what they might be able to do with PS5-level hardware when they're already doing this on PS4/Pro. Can't wait to see the sequel.
This game had one of the better LoD systems for foliage. Unfortunately, it does not fare as well when it comes to more solid objects. Hopefully, its successor will see significant improvements in this department.
They are fairly in realistic side of the spectrum here compared to aforementioned Nintendo's offering. And yea it would be boring but the point is, like another user mentioned, a grand total of one game in AAA space (Gravity Rush 1 was originally a Vita title) that skews heavily towards stylized that is also not the typical cell shaded anime stuff. A- and AA- development is where most of the stylized aesthetics have been adopted and utilized heavily.
I am simply having a hard time understanding why there is not one game in the AAA space, this gen, on XB1 and PS4, that embody the art aesthetic of PoP 2008. Styles like those do not age and work astonishingly well with increased resolution.
The comparative lack of power for Nintendo necessitated for art aesthetics that will be timeless. Heck, even today, Super Mario Galaxy games and Skyward Sword look good and would look phenomenal at higher resolution (which I think has been done with emulators).
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It's too late for that now.
Other than adjusting clock speeds and RAM there's not really anything they can do now. CPU and GPU architecture are already set in stone.
Next gen = much more dev time
I'd rather get games like Horizon with 2-3 year dev time than games that take 6 years to make
Seriously the UI of almost every system this generation (including Switch) seems like everyone is starting out like a new foal. Born and wobbling around with almost no growth past it. At least Microsoft tried some remakes but I've never felt it hit where it needed to be.
Sony as my main console - I'm looking at your media page you hot garbage. Let me get to Netflix quickly!
Yes. Silicon takes years to design, build, test, fix, and get yields to a good spot. Whatever silicon is in these boxes has been locked down hard for months, and was probably 'design finished' over a year ago.
Think of it like software. You dont add new features to Beta. Now multiply that be 100x because this is hardware that cannot be changed.
I don't know if we should put over importance in one console being more powerful than the other. For power to be a factor, it's going to have to be more than a marginal difference. It wasn't the Playstation 4 being more powerful than the Xbox One alone that defined this generation. Not only was the Playstation 4 significantly more powerful than the Xbox One, but the latter was under powered given the point in time the console released. Furthermore, the Xbox one was overpriced in comparison. So we had a situation where consumers could get vastly superior third party experiences for cheaper.
But it wasn't just power and price point that were a factor. The Playstation 4 also had a beefy First Party development ecosystem behind it. Microsoft in comparison had significantly reduced its internal capabilities via studio closures and a consistently tightening of the purse strings. The Playstation 3 was able to fight through the previous generation thanks to strong first party support, allowing them to compensate for 3rd party exclusives that Microsoft had garnered on the back of their success with the 360 that generation. With the Xbox One Microsoft had a pitiful first party presence, so the fact that they had weaker 3rd party to boot only exacerbated the situation.
Basically, what I'm trying to say is that marginal power difference alone isn't going to mean much next generation. It's going to have to be a significant power difference separating the two, and even then, there's going to have to be factors outside of that to truly result in a notable impact.
But it wasn't just power and price point that were a factor. The Playstation 4 also had a beefy First Party development ecosystem behind it. Microsoft in comparison had significantly reduced its internal capabilities via studio closures and a consistently tightening of the purse strings. The Playstation 3 was able to fight through the previous generation thanks to strong first party support, allowing them to compensate for 3rd party exclusives that Microsoft had garnered on the back of their success with the 360 that generation. With the Xbox One Microsoft had a pitiful first party presence, so the fact that they had weaker 3rd party to boot only exacerbated the situation.
Basically, what I'm trying to say is that marginal power difference alone isn't going to mean much next generation. It's going to have to be a significant power difference separating the two, and even then, there's going to have to be factors outside of that to truly result in a notable impact.
No....the guy who cannot be named, left Kinda Funny also heard the same.
Sony will ship a more powerful box but compromise on build quality and the cooling system again. They are cheap.
Can you imagine if some of these devs decided that instead of adding even more amazing look hair/hair dynamics/hair anti-aliasing super occlusion and ray tracing under-highlights to all the HAIR ... we had like 100+ characters on screen at once? All looking this ridiculously good looking???
the dream.
Yea, the specs for CPU and GPU are usually nailed in early, and even though the consoles don't release for like a year plus it's too late to change them now for logistical reasons.
Price speculation is premature but spec speculation is not..... Ok
It'll probably be like a 10% difference or less. Enough to make a small fps difference, or a slightly steadier dynamic resolution. Ultimately it's not really why the majority buy hardware, even the enthusiast audience. It will be the software and price. Everything else is just window dressing, barring a complete disaster in a particular aspect of the hardware/system design.
All I am imagining is 1 generation worth of dev time. I don't want to see Sony studios reduced to 1 game/ gen, and I would sacrifice graphics for that.
No.
Colin Moriarty also corroborates his claim with his own sources.
As time goes on and returns diminish, I think these spec differences will matter less and less. Plus Microsoft seems to be shifting away from console first to games first, so having the most powerful console on the block matters less when you can play on a pc that will shit on consoles anywayz
That's just the reality of game development as better hardware allows for bigger and more complex games.
And as great as Horizon was, that short dev time really shows in some respects. The amount of interactivity you have with NPCs and inside towns is pretty basic compared to games with longer dev times.
To run that at 60fps with no pop-ups, longer draw distance, ray tracing, and super fast loadings. It won't be about resolution anymore.
They can and they certainly will overclock their APU IMO. They could make it stronger than PS5 that way. It depends how bad they want it: How much money are they willing to spend on additionnal cooling ?
Like Digital Foundry's 750ti build that soon got forgotten about LUL
What PC, Who's PC, Everyones is different. We need a common denominator PC when the new consoles come.
Honestly, I don't even care about which console is more powerful. I think they will be so close in power that you will need a magnifying glass and DF to tell you the difference. The differentiating factor between both consoles will be exclusive games, services, and maybe price if they are priced differently.
It is completely unfathomable to me that Sony would let their console be more expensive next gen. At worst, they'll match the price.
Again, the way PSN sales have panned out for them, there's no reason they can't take an L on the price to start if it means getting the system into more households.
You bet. Every new gen with newer hardware and tech requires longer devoelopment time. Companies that used to launch 3-4 games during same PS3 gen barely managed to do 2 or even one game this gen. Expect tougher work for them for next-gben eventhough power will be enough.
Not necessarily. It wasn't the case at the start of this gen. PS4 was $100 cheaper while being more powerful. Who is to say both consoles don't end up being the same price with PS5 being slightly more powerful.
I am expecting this to be the case. A few last minute adjustments and they'll end up within spitting distance of each other. I'm also expecting MS to take the power lead, but that's based on nothing but their PR/messaging about power.
I'll be getting the PS5 first either way, so if it's got the power lead - even better.
I don't understand what that rumor has to do with this since the source is different anyway?
I am not putting any faith in Dev kits. We will see when we have the official specs.
That said I always go with the console that performs better with multiplats (which is why my X gets all my play time and Pro gathers dust) since they make up 99% of the games I play. However the Xbox ecosystem might just be enough to keep me from jumping on ps5 right at launch even if it is more powerful. Crazy how things change. The Xbox ecosystem was the last thing I wanted to be apart of just 6 years ago.
That said I always go with the console that performs better with multiplats (which is why my X gets all my play time and Pro gathers dust) since they make up 99% of the games I play. However the Xbox ecosystem might just be enough to keep me from jumping on ps5 right at launch even if it is more powerful. Crazy how things change. The Xbox ecosystem was the last thing I wanted to be apart of just 6 years ago.
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