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And Just Like That, Microsoft Showed How Weak Stadia's Offering Is With Their Project xCloud Announcements

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Announcing 50+ games that are already playable via the Project xCloud Preview program, DUALSHOCK 4 support, and an insane amount of publishers and developers who will support the service, Microsoft has pulled down Google's pants on their Stadia offering and shown that maybe the game streaming wars are best left to the adults in the room.

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Additionally, adding Game Pass to Project xCloud is fucking nuts. Stadia hasn't even launched and compared to Microsoft's offering it feels dead on arrival.
 

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It boils down to who has the better game selection. And well........
 
Betelgeuse

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Stadia is like shopping at the convenience store at your local gas station.

xCloud is like shopping at Costco.
 

shark97

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dont you still have to like, buy an xbox to play xcloud? then it's not comparable to stadia. plus stadia has an offering in 5 days, this doesnt. ds4 support doesnt mean anything to me...
 
FinKL

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It's like Sega Channel in the modern age, except now instead of trying each game, I'll read about them because I don't have any time to play.
 
UltraMagnus

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Ultimately Google played a role in pushing MS anyway. But they're not selling a service, Google can still bring things to the table, what I suspect will happen is xCloud will take the early lead cloud gaming, but Google will change up their business model to allow for more free gaming if you're willing to watch some commercials or something like that.
 
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I agree, but keep in mind that all of these games on xCloud are running off of XBox One S hardware. Stadia is trying something a little different by having them run off top of the line PC hardware.

Microsoft has definitely gone about this in a much more pragmatic manner, but as anyone who has tried the preview would tell you, these games aren't running at 60 FPS
 
Dimajjio

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The only thing now though is that they need to get that Scarlett hardware in xCloud racks. You don't really want to be playing base Xbox One versions of games.
 
Pankratous

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I'm still confused about xCloud. If you didn't have Game Pass, does that mean you buy individual games to stream like on Stadia?

But with Game Pass, you can presumably stream all the things you could also download on an actual Xbox?
 
FusionNY

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shark97 said:
dont you still have to like, buy an xbox to play xcloud? then it's not comparable to stadia. plus stadia has an offering in 5 days, this doesnt. ds4 support doesnt mean anything to me...
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No you don't need your own Xbox unless you want to do console streaming from your own console.
 
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Good on MS for supporting Dual Shock. I guess Nintendo Pro controller will be next ?
 
Garrett 2U

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As far as I'm concerned, XCloud to GamePass just killed almost any other game streaming service.
 
Fahdi

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You guys act like PS Now doesn't exist with 300+ games which also has a download feature. XCloud has become the exact same thing + Day 1 Games on Game Pass + PC. It's all literally the same services with perks here and there. MS is just offering the most value with Day 1 games.
 
Sei

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Yup, Stadia is missing at launch all the features that made it unique.

xCloud sounds like a much better service, and you know MS is not going to launch without key features. Some of them they already have on PC, you know like a UI.

One sub, GamePass ultimate, free games included.
Play on phone or any other device streaming, with Xbox or DS4 controller.
Download games to your PC or Xbox and play them there too.
 
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Hobbes said:
Announcing 50+ games that are already playable via the Project xCloud Preview program, DUALSHOCK 4 support, and an insane amount of publishers and developers who will support the service, Microsoft has pulled down Google's pants on their Stadia offering and shown that maybe the game streaming wars are best left to the adults in the room.

Additionally, adding Game Pass to Project xCloud is fucking nuts. Stadia hasn't even launched and compared to Microsoft's offering it feels dead on arrival.
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Heh, I agree with you, but shots have been fired.
 
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I don't know that I would agree about Phil Spencer removing Google's outerwear but I'll grant that it's looking like a deathly winter for the good folks at Alphabet
 
SweetBellic

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Are games on xCloud just the Xbox versions? In which case, wouldn't Stadia still be offering better performance?
 
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TitanicFall

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Not exactly a fair comparison. You have to build apps to natively work on Stadia. You already have the code for Xbox games. It's not like to stream games from my Steam Library, Valve is asking devs to work on a streaming version. It's hands off for them.
 
Vinc

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I'm trying to wrap my head around the fact that having recently spent 181 dollars for 3 full years of Xbox Game Pass ultimate, I don't even need to purchase a console to play Scalett launch games. I WILL, because I want to play them locally at the best quality, but it's INSANE that I don't need to. This is so great. That 'gaming is for everyone' strategy Microsoft is going for is starting to make a whole lot of sense to me.
 
Servbot24

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Google is treating Stadia like it's a normal tech launch. I don't think they understadn how high expectations are from gamers. The normal software launch is rushing out the bare bones version and fixing it over time but I don't think that will work here.
 
DeadJoshWalking

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I wouldn't be so worried about Stadia if it weren't run by Google, they have such a bad track record at running anywhere but first in a market. I'd actually be interested in trying out Stadia (only really because xCloud is coming later) but there's no way in hell I'm paying for a full price game on their platform because I'll honestly be shocked if it's still an active service in 18 months.
 
B.O.O.M.

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I mean they did it themselves before this announcement. Hell, PSNow made it look even worse even before xcloud.
 
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