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Analogue Super NT - orders and shipping(Now you're playing with SUPER POWER)
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Thx updated to 4.9 what is SPC player btw?
You should make a thread about the DAC
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I haven't played with it yet, will only be able to tonight and I may be waiting on SM's firmware, but SPC files normally are music files so perhaps it's safe to assume that you'll be able to play SPC files from your cartridges.
SPC is the native format of SNES music data. You'll need dedicated files in the SPC or SP2 format. It will not play music directly off your carts.
Firmware and release notes are now numbered 4.9, nothing else changed. Maybe a last minute fix?
Might make sense to download it again in case someone already started with 4.8.
Might make sense to download it again in case someone already started with 4.8.
Well, I have the DAC! It does indeed output 240p and it only functions with the Super Nt and Mega Sg, as you might expect. There's a lot of options in the menu for changing which sync to use among other things. Will have more to discuss soon enough.
i keep seeing DAC being thrown around with these and at this point I'm too afraid to ask what that is
Yee, been looking forward to this update! Fixed scanlines and SPC player were exactly what I was hoping for XP
Now to wait for the SmokeMonster version to come out ;P
Yee, been looking forward to this update! Fixed scanlines and SPC player were exactly what I was hoping for XP
Now to wait for the SmokeMonster version to come out ;P
Finally, my scanlines will be fixed!
How does it connect? Is it HDMI to component? HDMI to SCART? HDMI to DVI/VGA?
How much lag does it add?
I had completely forgotten about that product. I thought it went the way of the Analogue Nt mini and is just quitely shuffled away.
How does it connect? Is it HDMI to component? HDMI to SCART? HDMI to DVI/VGA?
How much lag does it add?
I had completely forgotten about that product. I thought it went the way of the Analogue Nt mini and is just quitely shuffled away.
This is good news, thanks John.
Very curious to hear more detail about it.
Light gun?
DAC stands for Digital to Analog Converter. It's a way to use these consoles on analog TVs.
According to Peter Brown (GaneSpot) on Twitter, the DAC uses a VGA-style connector and can output composite, s-video, component, and RGB via breakout connectors
It uses that connector because kevtris likes cheap and effective solutions. It uses cables easily acquired from monoprice if people want to order their cables ahead of launch:
Component video (looks like these are currently out of stock)
RGB BNC
S-video/composite
Unfortunately if you want an RGB Scart cable you'll have to source it from somewhere else that makes custom cables. I'd imagine lots more options will pop up once DAC is officially announced.
Finally the DAC appears.
We are pretty much reaching the peak when it comes to playing a retro console, with the highest image and sound quality possible, on analogue displays.
Now, to future proof, we are just lacking a substitute for the dying CRTs.
I sometimes wonder if a modern display with a thick glass panel in front of it could be manipulated to look like a CRT.
We are pretty much reaching the peak when it comes to playing a retro console, with the highest image and sound quality possible, on analogue displays.
Now, to future proof, we are just lacking a substitute for the dying CRTs.
I sometimes wonder if a modern display with a thick glass panel in front of it could be manipulated to look like a CRT.
HolyForkingShirtballs! I got a teensy bit excited there. (At least SuperFX🙏)
I think you could get pretty far with a low latency, high resolution (4K at least) display with one of those fancy CRT shaders, like CRT royale. You could do the curvature either in the shader (the high resolution should take care of the artifacts that way), or with a glass panel like you said.
You'd need some amount of gpu power to run the shader, though.
I'd love to build my own arcade cabinet this way
Yes, that's pretty much what i was thinking.
Also, speaking of arcades, you hit the nail on the head there.
I have a Candy Cab to which i pray everytime i turn it on, to not have the monitor die on me. But i know it will happen sometime.
Having a low power, low cost, and lighter alternative to arcade monitors would indeed be a godsend.
It didn't even have to be that low cost, since once you buy one and install it, you would be set for years.
Can someone please confirm behaviour that I am seeing with the new jailbreak? I set up my usual 5x integer settings, saved everything and then tried out all the special chip games I was interested in, all good. But then on powering off and restarting the video settings are saved but don't actually apply until you go back into the video options and press any button, then they take effect. I can't be alone in having this problem?
A sufficiently high-resolution OLED with proper processing at the display level could near-perfectly simulate bloom, shadow mask/aperture grill structure, and phosphor decay almost perfectly, but that won't happen until display manufactures get off of their sample-and-hold treadmill or the community puts in the Herculean effort to engineer the solutions themselves.
Cool. There were some games that I dumped off the SNES classic and Wii U Virtual Console that I couldn't run because of their use of special chips. Hopefully I'll be able to play them all on my Super NT now.
this new SPC sound playing software in the Super NT is interesting, but it presents a problem: nobody on the greater Internet appears to have organized existing SPC archives into the FPGA-friendly SP2 format. without SP2 files, the current SPC player requires tapping into the menu whenever a song ends and queueing up the next song manually.
anybody know of SP2 resources in the wild? if not direct links, hints would be appreciated. the SPC player otherwise works as you might hope, with pristine audio quality.
anybody know of SP2 resources in the wild? if not direct links, hints would be appreciated. the SPC player otherwise works as you might hope, with pristine audio quality.
I would like to know this as well, This is a very cool feature
Sp2? I've seen a site that has an archive of SPC files to download and a tool that rips spc files from roms, but apparently that tool doesn't work on modern versions of windows.
A while back, caitsith2 wrote a program to convert a directory of SPC files to the SPC2 format.
I kept that archive and uploaded it here. You can just drag a folder onto the EXE.
Oh cool! Good thing you held on to it! I was just reading a kevtris post about it on the nesdev forums but the link was dead.
Thanks for sharing!
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you're a freaking pal! I can now confirm this works swimmingly, thank you, and I'm now jamming the complete Chrono Trigger soundtrack on my Super NT. d-pad goes back and forth through the playlist, and A/B are play/pause. the interface is a bit barebones, but it does expose the exact triggering of every sound channel, which is cute.
for those planning to do the same thing, make sure to get WinRAR or 7Zip to unpack existing RSN files to do this.
Dumb question....so the new Super NT firmware download three folders in the zip. Do I move all three onto the SD card or only the .bin? What are the other two folders for?
Sorry if im being dim but right now I can already play Super Mario Kart off SD card via the previous release of the JB firmware. What difference is there now that chips like DSP are supported?
That's a welcome surprise! Interesting he'd choose to implement ST-011, which is one of the 3 not supported by the SD2SNES, and only one extremely uninteresting Shogi game uses it.
I do wonder if he'll implement the SuperFX and SA-1 down the line. SD2SNES's is great, but those cores don't seem to run at an accurate speed in the case of GSU, and with some timing errors in the case of SA-1. I'd love to see that stuff get ironed out in firmware updates to the SD2SNES, but I haven't seen anywhere that RedGuy plans to do further work on them, since he removed "WIP" status from both of them.
You must be having a faulty memory. I'm still on the previous JB firmware and double checked to make sure. Super Mario Kart gives the expansion chips not supported error like it always has, as do all DSP chip games, as they have not been supported up to this point.
Unless there is a romhack that removes the DSP dependency but I'm not aware of anything like that.
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Haven't checked it out on the latest one yet but the same thing happened on an earlier jailbreak. So best thing to do is report it on the github and hopefully it will be fixed soon.
Leave the folders on your root directory if you wanna access music playback.
the .bin is the update file. that updates the firmware of the system and you delete the file after you complete the update
The Bios folder contains files for the FPGA to emulate the special chips, SPC folder is for SPC files for the SPC music player. You can ignore that entirely if you don't plan to use that feature. And the SYSTEM folder contains the SPC player core file
I think kevtris in the past had said the issue with SA1 and Super FX is that there's not enough memory bandwidth for those chips to run along with the snes core.
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Yeah my understanding is it's practically a miracle Redguy got those cores running on the SD2SNES, and that cart doesn't have an SNES system core
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