Analogue announces the Mega Sg (shipping early, March 25th)

kubev · Apr 2, 2019

sir_crocodile said:
Currently trying to get first place on the ifrit race in Story of Thor to get one of the unlimited bows, which is as frustrating as always lol

Oh, yeah, that one's tough. Oddly, it's better to sort of take your time with it and just make sure Ifrit's positioned correctly to maximize his progress with each dash. But yeah, best of luck. XD

By the way, I know I've mentioned Beyond Oasis in discussions about BotW before, but I can't help but mention again how well Beyond Oasis did the whole weapon-breaking thing. Want a weapon that doesn't break? Go through absolute hell to get it. Haha.

Westonian · Apr 2, 2019

This will probably piss off a bunch of people here, but I 'pre-ordred' a JPN model yesterday with a 3-week window, and it shipped this morning.

sir_crocodile · Apr 2, 2019

McBradders said:
They're so expensive :(

Yup. :/ I only bought one pad because of that. Still using one of my OG mega drive joypads for 2P.

kubev said:
By the way, I know I've mentioned Beyond Oasis in discussions about BotW before, but I can't help but mention again how well Beyond Oasis did the whole weapon-breaking thing. Want a weapon that doesn't break? Go through absolute hell to get it. Haha.

Yeah, Thor does weapon breaking the best I've seen it. To begin with you have the superb fighting engine which obviously has stuff lifted from Ancient's work with streets of rage, with the high point being the cool special moves based off the original weakest but unbreakable dagger, so if you've worked hard at grasping the fighting system you end up doing more damage with the base weapon. Then you have the various breakable weapons that deal easy, large damage for specific situations, then you have unbreakable versions of the best of the different types of weapons. I love it.

I think I'd rather do the cliff jumps or the 100 pit challenge then the ifrit race lol. At least with those I know it's down to mostly skill, I'm convinced that my inputs get eaten every now and then with the double A tap for the ifirit dash.

Westonian said:
This will probably piss off a bunch of people here, but I 'pre-ordred' a JPN model yesterday with a 3-week window, and it shipped this morning.

Unsurprising. I've said it before, but the only good part of analogue is the hardware. I don't really think much of them otherwise.

doodledude · Apr 2, 2019

Westonian said:
This will probably piss off a bunch of people here, but I 'pre-ordred' a JPN model yesterday with a 3-week window, and it shipped this morning.

I ordered a JPN version on Friday not heard a dickie bird since

Lakeside · Apr 2, 2019

Well my EU return is landing in TX today (early). We'll see how quickly they ship out my proper JPN model. It still chaps me how they tried to coerce us into keeping the wrong units though. Like, you already screwed up. You don't need to lie on top of it.

Sapiens · Apr 2, 2019

Westonian said:
This will probably piss off a bunch of people here, but I 'pre-ordred' a JPN model yesterday with a 3-week window, and it shipped this morning.

It's fine. Glad you're getting one.

I've been asking for a tracking number since Friday and they've yet to provide it.

raketenrolf · Apr 2, 2019

Krejlooc said:
If a megadrive game is PAL optimized, then there is nothing filthy about the version at all. PAL optimized games run at the correct speed when played on a 50hz television, to be PAL optimized meant the programmer took into consideration the difference in timing and ensured the game ran at the correct speed no matter where played.

If the game weren't PAL optimized, that would mean it would run slower on a PAL television because it would be driven at 50 hz, but the modern HDTV standard is 60 hz world wide. Which would mean, even if you had un-optimized PAL games, you could just check the option in the menu for the Mega SG to force it to run at 60 hz, and your PAL cart would play at the correct speed on a modern television.

But not every PAL game will be working in 60hz mode or does it? I remember that being the case on some SNES games but the MD might be different of course. If there games that aren't running correctly, is there a list somewhere? Because I can't find one.

Lynd · Apr 2, 2019

raketenrolf said:
But not every PAL game will be working in 60hz mode or does it? I remember that being the case on some SNES games but the MD might be different of course. If there games that aren't running correctly, is there a list somewhere? Because I can't find one.

Yeah I'm interested in this too, it would be useful to know what games work correctly when running at 60

Deleted member 12790 · Apr 2, 2019

raketenrolf said:
But not every PAL game will be working in 60hz mode or does it?

60 hz describes the speed of the machine. When they say, "run it at 60 hz mode," they mean run the game timed to a 60 hz screen. If the game was built for 60 hz originally, it'll run in the correct speed at 60 hz, even if it's a "PAL" game. PAL does not actually have anything to do with 50 hz or 60 hz. PAL refers to the color space encoding. PAL is a color system. NTSC is a color system. HDTV has it's own color system. PAL color systems typically operate at 50 hz. There is nothing stopping you from running a PAL color system game at 60 hz.

Fularu · Apr 2, 2019

I'm astounded by Analog's amateurism with my return.

The MegaSG was returned to them (without even beeing delivered to me) and only now are they telling me that they can't refund me since the card I used to purchase it was canceled and a new one issued by the bank as a precautionary measure back in November following a string of compromised cards

They can only issue store credit since they also « stopped using paypal for security reasons » (what?) and can't refund me on my new card (which visa can easily authenticate for them as beeing issued to the same owner as the previous card).

I'm really at a loss for words.

The system has been with them for almost a week now

Lakeside · Apr 2, 2019

Fularu said:
I'm astounded by Analog's amateurism with my return.

The MegaSG was returned to them (without even beeing delivered to me) and only now are they telling me that they can't refund me since the card I used to purchase it was canceled and a new one issued by the bank as a precautionary measure back in November following a string of compromised cards

They can only issue store credit since they also « stopped using paypal for security reasons » (what?) and can't refund me on my new card (which visa can easily authenticate for them as beeing issued to the same owner as the previous card).

I'm really at a loss for words.

The system has been with them for almost a week now

That is something they are going to need to figure out. With them holding people's pre-pays for half a year in an era of credit card fraud..

Also I think when I encountered this before, returns were allowed via the old canceled cc number, just not new charges.

boredandlazy · Apr 2, 2019

Lakeside said:
That is something they are going to need to figure out. With them holding people's pre-pays for half a year in an era of credit card fraud..

Also I think when I encountered this before, returns were allowed via the old canceled cc number, just not new charges.

Correct. I had to change credit cards last year due to suspicious activity whilst I had an RMA going on and the refund still went into my account.

Fularu · Apr 2, 2019

boredandlazy said:
Correct. I had to change credit cards last year due to suspicious activity whilst I had an RMA going on and the refund still went into my account.

You have a 4 weeks window

Mine was 5 months ago

Westonian · Apr 2, 2019

Tracking shows it being delivered by this Friday. (I guess that's the advantage of being one state away).

Swung by my local retro game store and picked up Sonic 2, Virtua Racing, and Aladdin at lunch. M30 controller should be here tomorrow.

JustinH · Apr 2, 2019

Westonian said:
Tracking shows it being delivered by this Friday. (I guess that's the advantage of being one state away).

Swung by my local retro game store and picked up Sonic 2, Virtua Racing, and Aladdin at lunch. M30 controller should be here tomorrow.

Mine's tracking for Thursday, and yeah I've been buying games too lol. Aladdin's supposed to show up tomorrow (but the case a manual I bought separately and they're coming later). The only game I already had was Earthworm Jim, which I bought last year in anticipation.

kubev · Apr 2, 2019

sir_crocodile said:
Yeah, Thor does weapon breaking the best I've seen it. To begin with you have the superb fighting engine which obviously has stuff lifted from Ancient's work with streets of rage, with the high point being the cool special moves based off the original weakest but unbreakable dagger, so if you've worked hard at grasping the fighting system you end up doing more damage with the base weapon. Then you have the various breakable weapons that deal easy, large damage for specific situations, then you have unbreakable versions of the best of the different types of weapons. I love it.

I think I'd rather do the cliff jumps or the 100 pit challenge then the ifrit race lol. At least with those I know it's down to mostly skill, I'm convinced that my inputs get eaten every now and then with the double A tap for the ifirit dash.

Oh, yeah, I forgot about Ifrit's single-tap flame attack that takes forever. Haha.

Anyway, the 100-floor dungeon actually wasn't so bad once you figured out that you could summon Dytto from slimes.

sir_crocodile · Apr 3, 2019

kubev said:
Oh, yeah, I forgot about Ifrit's single-tap flame attack that takes forever. Haha.

Anyway, the 100-floor dungeon actually wasn't so bad once you figured out that you could summon Dytto from slimes.

Yeah, I try to do it early to spice things up lol (you can do this dungeon right from the beginning of the game with no spirits).

Sapiens · Apr 3, 2019

Fularu said:
I'm astounded by Analog's amateurism with my return.

The MegaSG was returned to them (without even beeing delivered to me) and only now are they telling me that they can't refund me since the card I used to purchase it was canceled and a new one issued by the bank as a precautionary measure back in November following a string of compromised cards

They can only issue store credit since they also « stopped using paypal for security reasons » (what?) and can't refund me on my new card (which visa can easily authenticate for them as beeing issued to the same owner as the previous card).

I'm really at a loss for words.

The system has been with them for almost a week now

Yes it's an interesting process watching them treat paying customers with contempt.

Still have not received my day1 preorder.

Lakeside · Apr 3, 2019

Sapiens said:
Yes it's an interesting process watching them treat paying customers with contempt.

Still have not received my day1 preorder.

Well my EU model arrived at their facility yesterday and my prompt responses have turned into crickets. I expected the JPN replacement to ship today overnight based upon their previous e-mails. Nada.

SMD · Apr 4, 2019

Was gonna come in here to ask why they still haven't switch from preorder to buy now so I can get the Mega SG with a Super NT and hoo boy, what a mess. They surely must've been able to gauge the demand for this with such a long preorder time?

Deleted member 1627 · Apr 5, 2019

My 8BitDo controller arrived... now to try and crack open the freaking receiver without paying even more money. Oy...

Beer Monkey · Apr 5, 2019

Got my JPN Mega SG today, ordered on Tuesday.

Not preordering from these guys in the future.

McBradders said:
My 8BitDo controller arrived... now to try and crack open the freaking receiver without paying even more money. Oy...

Get this, 8bitdo includes a screwdriver with their PCBs that convert real retro controllers to wireless. Go figure.

NinjaScooter · Apr 5, 2019

I'm tempted to pull the trigger on one of these but I would be starting from scratch on a physical Genesis cart collection aside from a few hidden away somewhere in my parents' garage. Is the Genesis market similar to the SNES in terms of scarcity and price inflation over the last few years?

doodledude · Apr 5, 2019

My JPN version arrived today, I ordered last Friday. Good service as I had when I got my Super NT last year

Deleted member 1627 · Apr 5, 2019

Beer Monkey said:
Got my JPN Mega SG today, ordered on Tuesday.

Not preordering from these guys in the future.

Get this, 8bitdo includes a screwdriver with their PCBs that convert real retro controllers to wireless. Go figure.

Good grief.

Danthrax · Apr 5, 2019

NinjaScooter said:
I'm tempted to pull the trigger on one of these but I would be starting from scratch on a physical Genesis cart collection aside from a few hidden away somewhere in my parents' garage. Is the Genesis market similar to the SNES in terms of scarcity and price inflation over the last few years?

Depends on what you want. Sonic games? All pretty much under $10. MUSHA or Alisia Dragoon? Cough up $100.

JustinH · Apr 5, 2019

Danthrax said:
Depends on what you want. Sonic games? All pretty much under $10. MUSHA or Alisia Dragoon? Cough up $100.

I've got my heart set on Hyperstone Heist and Lightening Force unfortunately, lol.

McBradders said:
Good grief.

I don't know if this is helpful, but if you have like... one of those precision screwdriver sets thingies, my 1.4mm flathead fit perfectly, and snugly, into the screw in the bottom both of the receivers I have.

yap · Apr 5, 2019

For those that have it, how long did it take for your 8bitdo controllers to ship?

JustinH · Apr 5, 2019

yap said:
For those that have it, how long did it take for your 8bitdo controllers to ship?

Well I bought the first two I got on amazon (black 2.4 and black bluetooth) and they arrived like... a day or two after. (just checked, they both showed up the day after I ordered them)

I had an order for a white 2.4 GHz model, but it said "ships in 1 to 2 months" when I ordered it, so when a used one popped up as Prime-eligible I grabbed that and cancelled my order for a new one. It showed up in two days.

AaronMT · Apr 5, 2019

Ordered March 27th, got an email back saying there's a 2-3 week backlog on shipping.

Windrunner · Apr 5, 2019

NinjaScooter said:
I'm tempted to pull the trigger on one of these but I would be starting from scratch on a physical Genesis cart collection aside from a few hidden away somewhere in my parents' garage. Is the Genesis market similar to the SNES in terms of scarcity and price inflation over the last few years?

Not quite that bad but it's getting worse and some games will be completely out of reach soon.

If anyone is tempted by bootlegs (or "repros") as an alternative, don't: they are poorly made and will damage your console.

Fularu · Apr 5, 2019

JustinH said:
I've got my heart set on Hyperstone Heist and Lightening Force unfortunately, lol.

I don't know if this is helpful, but if you have like... one of those precision screwdriver sets thingies, my 1.4mm flathead fit perfectly, and snugly, into the screw in the bottom both of the receivers I have.

Thunder force IV isn't really expensive (60-80$ range, cheaper for pal, middle for Japan and more for US versions)

Hyperstone is in the same ballpark

Neither are close to beeing expensive Mega Drive games

RedHotHero · Apr 5, 2019

Windrunner said:
Not quite that bad but it's getting worse and some games will be completely out of reach soon.

If anyone is tempted by bootlegs (or "repros") as an alternative, don't: they are poorly made and will damage your console.

which ones did you have in mind when you say some are going to be completely out of reach? Definitely interesting watching this whole thing change.

Fularu · Apr 5, 2019

RedHotHero said:
which ones did you have in mind when you say some are going to be completely out of reach? Definitely interesting watching this whole thing change.

Eliminate Down (non repro) goes for 1500$+

Gleylancer (non repro) for 450$+

Panorama Cotton (non repro) for 500$+

And so on

Darknight · Apr 5, 2019

Fularu said:
Panorama Cotton (non repro) for 500$+

And so on

Whoa, Panorama Cotton is $500+? (hugs his copy)

JustinH · Apr 5, 2019

Fularu said:
Thunder force IV isn't really expensive (60-80$ range, cheaper for pal, middle for Japan and more for US versions)

Hyperstone is in the same ballpark

Neither are close to beeing expensive Mega Drive games

Yeah I guess they aren't that bad, and not out of reach. Just thought they were a little pricey for old games. I thought Genesis games were generally the cheaper console to buy games for comparing to NES and SNES.

Fularu said:
Eliminate Down (non repro) goes for 1500$+

Gleylancer (non repro) for 450$+

Panorama Cotton (non repro) for 500$+

And so on

Yeah, wow. I had no idea about these. I guess I knew Panorama Cotton was an expensive game, I just never cared about it so it just slipped my mind.

Deleted member 48897 · Apr 5, 2019

Fularu said:
Panorama Cotton (non repro) for 500$+

Geesh, I seem to recall less than a decade ago you could get it with the teacup and everything for maybe $200 at most.

What surprises me is that Virtua Racing is actually pretty cheap, at least the copies the nearby retro shop sells.

Windrunner · Apr 5, 2019

My tip for games that are still kind of affordable but will climb due to demand: Konami games.

Many of them are already out of reach if collecting Japanese versions.

Fularu · Apr 5, 2019

Windrunner said:
My tip for games that are still kind of affordable but will climb due to demand: Konami games.

Many of them are already out of reach if collecting Japanese versions.

Japanese versions of Konami games fetch absurd prices

Like 20 years ago Castlevania was already 200$+

They had an incredibly limited run

Windrunner · Apr 5, 2019

Fularu said:
Japanese versions of Konami games fetch absurd prices

Like 20 years ago Castlevania was already 200$+

They had an incredibly limited run

It's tragic :( I wish I had bought VK and Contra when I had the chance to for ¥20K.

Fularu · Apr 5, 2019

Windrunner said:
It's tragic :( I wish I had bought VK and Contra when I had the chance to for ¥20K.

Lol what a bargain, I can feel your pain (I also usually favor japanese versions, the packaging is soooo gooood)

Listai · Apr 5, 2019

Has anyone had any issues with their 2.4ghz m30?

Mine occasionally decides to stop accepting some button inputs and this is after updating the firmware on both the receiver and the controller itself.

TheWooniestWoona · Apr 5, 2019

Fularu said:
Thunder force IV isn't really expensive (60-80$ range, cheaper for pal, middle for Japan and more for US versions)

Holy crap! When did it get so expensive???
I bought a copy like 4 years ago for around $10.

Fularu · Apr 5, 2019

MattWhite924 said:
Holy crap! When did it get so expensive???
I bought a copy like 4 years ago for around $10.

You probably bought a bootleg

verygooster · Apr 5, 2019

NinjaScooter said:
I'm tempted to pull the trigger on one of these but I would be starting from scratch on a physical Genesis cart collection aside from a few hidden away somewhere in my parents' garage. Is the Genesis market similar to the SNES in terms of scarcity and price inflation over the last few years?

In scouring eBay the last week I notice a LOT of Konami Genesis titles fetch crazy prices. Most of the 'popular' and licensed stuff is reasonably priced*, including sports titles. JRPGs can be a bit pricey but not terrible.

*if you don't mind loose carts anyway

NinjaScooter · Apr 5, 2019

Danthrax said:
Depends on what you want. Sonic games? All pretty much under $10. MUSHA or Alisia Dragoon? Cough up $100.

Oddly enough if anything it'd probably be a lot of the licensed stuff. That's the stuff that A) was completely different from the SNES counterparts of that era that I grew up with (Jurassic Park, Batman, Disney) and B) is tougher to come by in terms of re-releases. Not really interested in the stuff that can be found already on various collections and compilations.

verygooster · Apr 5, 2019

GameStop is actually having a huge retro (from like PS2/Gamecube era and older) sale right now and you can shave a bit more off with CAG16 promo code from Cheap Ass Gamer.

TheWooniestWoona · Apr 5, 2019

Fularu said:
You probably bought a bootleg

I don't think I did, but I'll probably check when I get home just to make sure.

ShinJohnpv · Apr 5, 2019

McBradders said:
My 8BitDo controller arrived... now to try and crack open the freaking receiver without paying even more money. Oy...

You should try it before doing so. I haven't updated the firmware on mine and it works perfectly, no issues at all here.

SoH · Apr 5, 2019

Buddy Mcpuddy said:
Has anyone had any issues with their 2.4ghz m30?

Mine occasionally decides to stop accepting some button inputs and this is after updating the firmware on both the receiver and the controller itself.

Try turning off anything else nearby that might be transmitting wireless signals. Pull the power cable if you have to (Xbox one for example is difficult to truly power off)

Not suggesting this as a fix, mind, just to help determine if wireless interference is the problem. If it goes away turn things back on one by one until you find the culprit.

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