Yeah, I've been extremely pleased with how scanlines look at 720p on my 4K TV, especially the hybrid scanlines. It looks surprisingly close to my CRT.
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Analogue announces the Mega Sg (shipping early, March 25th)
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Yeah, I've been extremely pleased with how scanlines look at 720p on my 4K TV, especially the hybrid scanlines. It looks surprisingly close to my CRT.
I think the poster isn't worried about how it will look but more worried about the impact of the uneven wear of the display which could cause a burn in effect of horizontal lines all over the display.
The pixel shift feature on OLEDs should prevent scanlines from causing uneven wear. So far no issues on mine with an OSSC with scanlines enabled.
This is the first thing I'm doing when I get home Thursday and open mine up. What a classic
Ah, that makes more sense. Didn't occur to me because I've made a subconscious habit of cycling my TV's scroll bar to prevent burn in.
Played through like 2 dozen sonic rom hacks and the bulk felt like something someone put together after watching a youtube video on how to hack roms. C'est la vie. I did play a Streets of Rage 2 hack as Donkey Kong so not a complete waste of an evening all things considered.
Went back to this old classic just for fun times.
Went back to this old classic just for fun times.
It's not that 720p scanlines are bad, but that normally it could even be better. On my megadrive connected to Framemeister, scanlines in 1080p look absolutely stunning, and the MegaSG/SuperNT don't come close in this regard. It's a pity they still haven't fixed this for both the Super NT and Mega SG now.
Hope it all gets sorted out for y'all in due time. Frustrating to spend that kind of cash on a premium product and have it get lost/stolen/delivered incorrectly. I recall many similar problems last year ... mostly arbitrary ship dates and DHL problems (in my case they basically didn't even attempt my home address). I'll probably grab the SG and an ever drive 5x in the next few weeks. Hope those of you who got everything in working order enjoy it !
Uhh... the FM 1080p scanlines weren't any better. In fact they're worse if you aren't following firebrandx profiles, and it still wasn't as good as scanlines @ 720p.
Before they were also bad and way too thin, now with FBX latest profiles they are really amazing. I could provide pics as comparison if you want.
Holy shit. I'm tracking down that rom hack for sure. Any others you'd recommend? I haven't played too many really great rom hacks before and wouldn't know where to begin.
Not much in the way of wild stuff like this so far, but plenty of hacks of people trying to do interesting levels, mechanics, and character swaps. I'll make a few lists as I get through more.
Has anybody done any guides for dialing in the video and audio? Particularly if I want it to sound as close to a Hi-def Genesis model 1? I know My Life in Gaming got pretty in-depth, but I don't want to keep searching through their video for the recommended settings.
In my personal opinion based on a whole hell of a lot Kevtris has said over time, I don't think the better scanlines are a big priority to him nor is the DAC, because he doesn't like using scanlines and he doesn't actually think that CRT support is *that* important.
Rewriting scanlines is on the to-do list (for a long time, before the SG) and the DAC will come out also. It's just a matter of balancing Analogue's business interests plus Kevtris' personal interests (like any of us, he likes to work on things he enjoys and would benefit from himself first).
Analogue's bread and butter is getting marketable systems out in a timely fashion and Kevtris has limited time to work on 'side' projects.
Give it time.
What Analogue has delivered over their first three FPGA consoles is crazy impressive and we are fortunate.
Gamesack has a video for dialing in the sound closer to a model one GenesisSo far I'm really digging this.
Has anybody done any guides for dialing in the video and audio? Particularly if I want it to sound as close to a Hi-def Genesis model 1? I know My Life in Gaming got pretty in-depth, but I don't want to keep searching through their video for the recommended settings.
I saw a few days ago a video of some rom hack with Kirby on either Sonic 2 or 3. It was super amusing. Sadly I didn't keep the name and can't find the video (it was on some retro group's post on Facebook).
I would send it back. They'll cover your shipping and mark the item as repair so you don't pay customs again.
I hope so too. Looks like I got the form letter everyone else did last night (EUR version being more rare, offering $25 if I wanted to keep it). They also didn't mention anything about a sellout, but said it would be a couple of weeks to get the corrected unit because of shipping back and forth. I guess I understand that. This transaction, and I imagine all others who want a replacement, is going to be far more costly to them, as they'll have to pay return shipping and shipping of the new unit. And given the shipping cost was nearly $30 to begin with (as to why - it was five days from TX to PA, I could ship at that speed for half the rate), it'll be more than the $25 they were offering. If only the EUR version wasn't so bland (black and white only), I would have kept it as it's the same inside.
I replied this morning I wanted to replace, so we'll see how long it takes for them to respond.
In hindsight they should have just made all three colors of swapable buttons and included them in the box. Let people make their own version as they choose. I'm also going to be sure if the next thing they make is something I'd want to buy, to wait until the second round to hang on to my own money rather than let them.
And not to start a witch hunt, but I kinda wish the media would mention this shipping debacle. Not that I want to punish Analogue, but it seems right now they are just trying to keep this under the radar (offering $25 to keep the wrong console, saying it is a rarer version, not offering to pay return shipping in all cases, and more importantly no message on their website mentioning this error and a uniformed process for those impacted to get it corrected). Getting some visibility on this would kinda force them to get their process in order.
I'm trying to decide on getting one of these but I have a question I can't seem to figure out.
Ok most of my games are PAL and for instance if I were to place the original Sonic the Hedgehog on Mega Drive in this would it run at 50hz with the slower music (which I thought was how it was meant to sound when I originally got it) or will it somehow convert it to 60hz with the faster (or normal?) music? Or do I have to find US/Genesis copies of this or any other titles I want to try at 60hz?
Ok most of my games are PAL and for instance if I were to place the original Sonic the Hedgehog on Mega Drive in this would it run at 50hz with the slower music (which I thought was how it was meant to sound when I originally got it) or will it somehow convert it to 60hz with the faster (or normal?) music? Or do I have to find US/Genesis copies of this or any other titles I want to try at 60hz?
You can set the console region and it'll do either 50/60hz. There's video modes for both.
I was fiddling with the settings last night - I have it set to 720p 60 and the games auto-region detect so there's no issue running region-locked games, however I honestly couldn't tell what was going on with framerate. On my OG hardware I can switch between the regions and speeds with no issues and it all just works lovely, but on that hardware I can tell because borders vanish and the title screens change. We need some science up in here.
Oh, so there is a 60hz mode on the PAL games already? I wasn't sure if it was something that was placed on the cartridges to start with or not back in the day. That is good to know then.
It kinda varies, you can play PAL stuff at 60hz but some games will be too fast, an example being the Back to the Future 3 game. Sonic 1 as an example just seems fine.
At the end of the day its just two small bits of plastic a few cm big that are grey instead of blue and red. Its not like Analogue sent out white systems instead of black or mixed up Super NTs with Mega SGs. Its frustrating that the mix up happened and Analogue's customer service leaves little to be desired but is it seriously worth getting this upset about the color of a power button?
If you have to look at it, then yes. If they offered aesthetic choices to their customers, then yes. If you spent $200 on it, then the answer is yes. Not to be snippy, but looking at your post history you haven't even ordered one, so why are you fit to judge?
There is also a different colour inscription on the ring around the cartridge slot. People paid $189 (up front, months in advance) + $50 shipping + customs charges; they are entitled to get exactly what they paid for.
God I'm so pleased with this unit that I'm almost teetering on the Super NT now. There's that part of me screaming in my head "You've got an OSSC you nob" though. Spent last night playing some Wonder Boy in Monster World and I got to Lilypad, never played the game before but it's so lovely and quaint.
I returned it because they changed the carrier
People can complain about the power and reset buttons as much as they want.
I just sent back my extremely rare euro version, so maybe you'd like that? It's really rare btw.
I love ordering and paying for a product in October and then watching as people who put their order in a few weeks ago get their stuff before me.
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Analogue definitely needs some better shipping partners. Similar shit happened with the Super NT. Those of us on the East Coast of the US, had to wait 7 - 10 days from when it shipped and people in EU were getting it in 2. Plus it cost more last time, I paid 40 for shipping with the Super NT, and it was slow as fuck. This time I only paid 25 and it should be here today, after shipping on Monday.
My unopened unit should reach them today if I believe Fedex. It should be a JPN model
That never works with Fedex Canada in my experience, which is how it was shipped. Analogue would have to reimburse the fees. It's not worth it.
They gave me their assurance and I'll hold them to their word. It's worth getting what I paid for back in October for 180 plus 50Us shipping.
And I'm still owed return shipping. They have not reimbursed that yet, but they said they would.
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I'm in software development, and transparency is a big part of coming to a solution to a problem. How about they cut and paste this onto their homepage (EDIT: to add, these are my words, not theirs, and my suggestion to them):
I would like to add it would be nice if they offered the following to affected customers (EDIT: Again, my suggestion, not anything they have offered or proposed):
I would like to add it would be nice if they offered the following to affected customers (EDIT: Again, my suggestion, not anything they have offered or proposed):
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Where did you even find this? The quality of their customer service is kind of lacking. I understand they probably have a small team, but these shipping issues seem to be a recurring thing with them...they really need to improve on this front.
No, that was my suggestion they post something like that on their site. My words, not theirs. They didn't, that's the issue. They should be more transparent with this. I added EDITs to my post to clarify.
Ah gotcha, seemed like that was an update they had provided somewhere. Sad that customers are able to summarize and clarify the issues better than the company themselves.
Fuuuuucking Fedex. I'm getting my (probably wrong model) Sg on monday, but better that than it having been returned to the sender like their website says. Their system for delivering to Sweden seems to be somewhat disastrous, with broken tracking and delayed and conflicting messages.
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