If you played Dawn, you should know that it's a sequel to Onimusha 3 ;)
Of course. Nobody will touch anything made by that dude, especially in Japan. Everything done by that composer disappeared overnight.
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An Onimusha Remaster came out one year ago, and nobody has talked about it.
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If you played Dawn, you should know that it's a sequel to Onimusha 3 ;)
Of course. Nobody will touch anything made by that dude, especially in Japan. Everything done by that composer disappeared overnight.
It's actually a tetralogy with the forth being the best. There are also 2 spin offs (ps2 and gba)
It cemented my love for the game.
It passed the test of time, in a design approach that is no longer used.
It passed the test of time, in a design approach that is no longer used.
That's just it thought isn't it, he did not make it - Takashi Niigaki composed the music and his great work got replaced with something else, I think giving the guy a name check and not letting his world class Resident Evil: Director's Cut Dual Shock ver. Soundtrack be the only thing he is known for! Seriously how did the man who compose this:
Also create this:
Anyway I always thought its such an underrated gem of an OST so did not have any interest in the remaster for its decision to remove it.
Remastered the wrong one, the original is by far the weakest entry. 2 and 3 is where it's at with Onimusha.
Finally, someone who isn't afraid to say it. I loved 4 the most out of all of them and it was the only one I loved playing. Purists probably hate 4 for what it brought to the series but fuck that was the only Onimusha game I really ever liked playing. Even did the 100 level dungeon which I regretted at the time but I only did it cause I liked playing the game that much.
2 is the next one I would love to revisit the most if Capcom ever decides to remaster it as I never played it much when it was released and just skipped to the third game.
Dawn of dream has the best combat and is packed with content. Way more playable characters that are very different and it is also a nice conclusion to the series. It comes back full circle story wise. I also did the 100 level dungeon and really enjoyed it. It's like a mash up of the entire series. I loved that you actually fight Garuganto in the dungeon instead of just a cutscene like in 3. In my opinion it is probably the entry that can stand the test of time the most in terms of gameplay.
Bought in the current sale. Love the game, hopefully others get the ported as well. What I really want is some sort full-blown remake or reboot. Earlier this year Sekiro gave me heavy Onimusha vibes, and recently playing it again I can see the inspiration more clearly.
LIke how do you release a definitive version of the game for current systems but leave out all of the bonus content, improvments and extra gameplay from Genma Onimusha?
Its stupid.
Its stupid.
It's been on sale numerous times on PC. I love the Onimusha series and would lap up a new release or remaster of the fourth game (never played it).
But I know that I'd never replay the original, so why spend the money on it?
But I know that I'd never replay the original, so why spend the money on it?
As it stands, didn't it just receive a pretty basic upres and nothing else? If there was more done to it, it might have gotten more attention.
I don't think it'd be particularly worth Capcom's resources to make major changes to the game's content or gameplay, but yeah, it really should've been Genma Onimusha. I still bought it, played through once, realized I absolutely didn't care to deal with finding all of the hidden Fluorite, let alone doing the atrocious Oni Spirits minigame again, and set it down.
I think - beyond remastering Genma Onimusha instead of Onimusha: Warlords - it also would've been a good idea to unlock Ultimate Mode (infinite magic, start with the Bishamon Sword) as a reward for beating Hard Difficulty, not as a reward for completing an utterly terrible minigame. That's how Onimusha 2 did it and it really felt best in that game. That, or some kind of straightforward new game plus, would have felt best and would not have required a ton of additional work on the part of the developers.
I'm definitely hoping that Onimusha 2 - if it's ever remastered - adds some kind of New Game Plus mode - all of the branching storylines (and the inability to unlock every single upgrade on a single playthrough) are really suited to it. Give me an excuse to play through a bunch of times, unlock all of the top tier equipment for every supporting character, max out everybody's HP and MP bars, unlock every single Necklace, et cetera. Keep the Rekka-Ken unlock behind beating Hard difficulty, that's fine with me. The missable content and gift-giving minigame stuff is definitely Onimusha 2's biggest flaw, and doing a better job of encouraging multiple playthroughs would be a great way to remedy that.
Definitely agree that it's got tons of content, though. I enjoy the way that different characters can unlock different paths and that you're encouraged to revisit older areas of the game to unlock previously unreachable treasure.
I think - beyond remastering Genma Onimusha instead of Onimusha: Warlords - it also would've been a good idea to unlock Ultimate Mode (infinite magic, start with the Bishamon Sword) as a reward for beating Hard Difficulty, not as a reward for completing an utterly terrible minigame. That's how Onimusha 2 did it and it really felt best in that game. That, or some kind of straightforward new game plus, would have felt best and would not have required a ton of additional work on the part of the developers.
I'm definitely hoping that Onimusha 2 - if it's ever remastered - adds some kind of New Game Plus mode - all of the branching storylines (and the inability to unlock every single upgrade on a single playthrough) are really suited to it. Give me an excuse to play through a bunch of times, unlock all of the top tier equipment for every supporting character, max out everybody's HP and MP bars, unlock every single Necklace, et cetera. Keep the Rekka-Ken unlock behind beating Hard difficulty, that's fine with me. The missable content and gift-giving minigame stuff is definitely Onimusha 2's biggest flaw, and doing a better job of encouraging multiple playthroughs would be a great way to remedy that.
Ehhh... it's got the biggest total moveset but that doesn't mean it's got the best combat. The game is way too much about grinding higher stats/stronger equipment and not enough about your skill in combat; the fact that it's more of an ARPG than an action game automatically downgrades how good the combat can be imo. Not to mention that - in practice - the ACTUAL combat is just doing the magic chain issen move over and over again against literally everything in the game because it's easier and more overpowered than literally anything else you can do.
Definitely agree that it's got tons of content, though. I enjoy the way that different characters can unlock different paths and that you're encouraged to revisit older areas of the game to unlock previously unreachable treasure.
In an era that is giving us things like the Crash, Spyro, and CTR remakes, it is hard to get particularly excited about an Onimusha port. Hell, it doesn't even have the effort put in as something like the recent release of Final Fantasy 12 or the Kingdom Hearts remasters. Don't even get me started on the Resident Evil 2 REmake; that project makes an Onimusha port look as exciting as white bread (and I am a fan of those games).
Indeed but he didn't do it all by himself if I'm not mistaken, Mamoru Samuragoch directed him throughout. Even if that wasn't the case, his name is tied to this OST so it had to disappear.
It's a great OST at the end of the day and nobody'll ever experience it... Unless you go out of your way and buy the OG game or Genma :P
Pretty sure you meant 2 and 4! :P
3 didn't age well with those first 3D environments, Paris/France setting and time travels LMAO
Two on PS2. You forgot a pachinko game :P
I really, really liked the game back in the day but I beat it at least three to four times over the years and I'm good. It's not RE4 levels where I can eternally play it because it's so fucking engaging and timeless. It's probably still really good but it's not something I'm terribly interested in replaying several more times.
Yeah; I think the core concept of Onimusha remains an appealing one (accessible but still skill-oriented combat, the weird fantasy-horror-tokusatsu-history mashup).
I may be in the minority here, but I think the turn partly away from horror and a bit more toward fantasy in Onimusha 2 is actually a very good one. I think that Onimusha works best when it feels sort of like visiting a fantastical historical Japan but where there's beauty in addition to ugliness. I feel like if Onimusha ever gets revived as a franchise, there should be scary enemies *but also* a lot of environments that feel genuinely larger-than-life beautiful.
Clearly - between Nioh, Sekiro, and Ghost of Tsushima - a sort of larger-than-life historical-Japan aesthetic has come back into fashion somewhat, so I'd love to see Capcom bring back their own spin on this (Sengoku Basara doesn't fucking count lol). But I think - when they do - it shouldn't be all darkness darkness darkness. Fighting against fantastical (but still hyperviolent) yokai (who act like goofy tokusatsu villains in cutscenes, fufufu) is more aesthetically interesting to me than just darkness and grotesquerie.
Some of the Japanese voicework was rerecorded (rights issues?) and the soundtrack was redone (definitely rights issues). It has optional widescreen but it crops part of the image to do it so ymmv. There's some minor gameplay improvements too like quick melee/ranged weapon swapping and added analog controls (diaf tank controls) but otherwise it's just a general uprez yes.
... Yup :(
Terrible decision. They should have included both versions in the remaster.
More like huge shitstorm issues around the OST.
I would have been more excited if it include the entire series, or at least bundled with the second game.
Wouldnt you want to play the remaster of the game you havent played????
It was completely rescored by Rei Kondoh and his associated composers - I think the new soundtrack is fairly decent on its own, but I can definitely see how the original was a huge part of the game's identity; while the new one can't escape comparisons to Okami and regardless of its quality isn't what the original game shipped with.
It is really interesting to compare the two - how the rescore was done with clear reference to the original and the decisions it made, filtered through Kondoh & co's own styles.
came to post this. although i like genma/warlords
hot take:
2>>>>>>>>1>3 (never played 4)
Huh ?!
Like a direct sequel?
I don't remember that... did I miss something ?
Tbh the only thing that's horrible in here is this post
1 and 2 maybe, but 3 is still good and 4 is still one of my favorite ARPG's. And one of my favorite games in general.
Edit: actually 2 would be great if it wasn't still stuck with tank controls
Only Oni 1 is basic as fuck
I'm legitimately shocked at all the people in here acknowledging the fact that Dawn of Dreams is the best one.
Usually people unironically shit on it for its "anime story" and how the "weapons don't feel special anymore" as if the weapons in 1-3 were so amazingly unique
Usually people unironically shit on it for its "anime story" and how the "weapons don't feel special anymore" as if the weapons in 1-3 were so amazingly unique
I bought it launch day, just haven't got around to playing it as I have a large backlog and beat it on PS2 originally.
Not having the Genma content, or being a collection of 1-4, means I still haven't picked it up despite it being pretty cheap.
Regarding Onimusha: Dawn of Dreams, don't forget-
http://www.theicecave.org/damage_co...i-the-demon-siege-and-the-dawn-of-dreams.html
"Most who dislike the game are western gamers, and there's a good reason for that: Capcom made some significant balance adjustments for the western version, many of which made the game an exercise in tedium. Techniques required more souls to purchase, meaning you'll have to grind for hours on end to afford the best ones. And that's worse since enemy HP was significantly increased, so some will take at least twice as long to finish. The bosses got a huge HP increase; you would have to dedicate at least an hour to take some of them down later in the game. Unfortunately, unlike Devil May Cry 3, it never got a rerelease to restore the Japanese version's sensible balancing."
I imported and beat the Japanese version (which has English support) and enjoyed it a lot after slogging through a few hours of the North American release.
Regarding Onimusha: Dawn of Dreams, don't forget-
http://www.theicecave.org/damage_co...i-the-demon-siege-and-the-dawn-of-dreams.html
"Most who dislike the game are western gamers, and there's a good reason for that: Capcom made some significant balance adjustments for the western version, many of which made the game an exercise in tedium. Techniques required more souls to purchase, meaning you'll have to grind for hours on end to afford the best ones. And that's worse since enemy HP was significantly increased, so some will take at least twice as long to finish. The bosses got a huge HP increase; you would have to dedicate at least an hour to take some of them down later in the game. Unfortunately, unlike Devil May Cry 3, it never got a rerelease to restore the Japanese version's sensible balancing."
I imported and beat the Japanese version (which has English support) and enjoyed it a lot after slogging through a few hours of the North American release.
I remember not liking Dawn of Dreams when I played it many, many years ago.
Can't remember why though.
I did like how the last boss was Fortinbras, the same as the last boss from 1.
Nice call back.
Edit: Reading the post above maybe it was the crappy balanced enemy HP.
I remember Fortinbras taking aaaaaaages to kill. I thought it was weird at the time.
Can't remember why though.
I did like how the last boss was Fortinbras, the same as the last boss from 1.
Nice call back.
Edit: Reading the post above maybe it was the crappy balanced enemy HP.
I remember Fortinbras taking aaaaaaages to kill. I thought it was weird at the time.
This. No one is talking about Medievil and there is nothing wrong about that.
It sounds like it lol
The main villain at the end of 3 is the main villain when you start Dawn.
Samanosuke is also one of the playable characters in Dawn.
Samanosuke is also one of the playable characters in Dawn.
I see you're a man of culture as well! :D
? Are you mocking me for liking the series or for importing the Japanese version of Dawn of Dreams?
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Does the PS4 version have an extra's gallery showing off the original PS1 build?