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In October, the Jackson Police Department in Mississippi announced the retirement of Ringo, a yellow Labrador retriever with a nose that could detect the faintest smell of drugs. After nine years with the narcotics unit, the department said, he would be going home with his partner, a detective in the department.

But Ringo ended up somewhere else, the police department announced last week. His handler, Officer Carl Ellis, quietly took Ringo to an animal shelter in a suburb of Jackson, where he waited for weeks for someone to adopt him. A police officer in the suburb texted a photo of Ringo to Randy Hare, a dog trainer in Jackson, Mr. Hare said in an interview on Monday.
He recognized him immediately. Mr. Hare had trained Ringo and another dog, a German shepherd named Alpha, for the Jackson Police Department about a decade ago. Mr. Hare said that while Ringo waited for adoption, the shelter's administrator started to suspect that Ringo might have been a former police dog and sought the help of an officer who ended up messaging him.

"Why would he turn his back on the dog and surrender his dog like that?" Mr. Hare said, referring to Officer Ellis, in an interview on Monday. "I never dreamed in a thousand years that he would pull this. I thought he would at least call me first and let me help him." Mr. Hare picked up Ringo about a month ago from the Webster Animal Shelter in the city of Madison, where he had quickly become playful friends with the shelter employees, and took him home. The shelter did not return a call seeking comment on Monday.
Days later, the department's chief, James E. Davis, found out about Ringo's situation and demoted Officer Ellis, a police spokesman said. "He wasn't pleased," the spokesman, Sgt. Roderick Holmes, said in an interview of the chief's reaction. "We treat our canines like we do any other officer with our department."

Officer Ellis was removed from the narcotics investigations team and assigned to patrol duty, Sergeant Holmes said. Officer Ellis could not be reached for comment on Monday, and Sergeant Holmes said he was not authorized to speak to the news media about the episode, which was under internal review.
While law enforcement agencies pay the veterinary bills for dogs while they are on the force, many departments stop covering them after they leave, said Richard Geraci, a trustee at the Retired Police Canine Foundation. Former police dogs can require expensive food, and their treatment for common ailments, such as cancer, can cost thousands of dollars, he said. "At least once a month, people whose dogs have cancer and can't afford it, they call and they are destitute," said Mr. Geraci, who is also a detective in the New York Police Department and has a police dog.
The Retired Police Canine Foundation helps pay veterinary bills for about 30 to 40 dogs a year from donations it raises, Mr. Geraci said. The foundation, which was started to support New York officers with retired dogs, has assisted law enforcement officials across the country, he said. Last week, Mr. Geraci said, he read a news article about Ringo and tried to contact Officer Ellis. He wants to know why he would give up on him.

"You are with them 24 hours a day. It's like having a baby," Mr. Geraci said. "If you have a dog for nine years, you aren't going to get rid of a dog for no reason."
 
Oct 27, 2017
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The dog gave good years of service, he shouldn't be surrendered like that. Like the trainer said, he should have just called him before dumping him at the pound
 

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This guy is a fucking scumbag, but the article does bring up a good point. Why to K9 Officers not get a pension to ensure they have a good life after they retire?
 

kylecoley182

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I know black people get treated like crap I see it everyday and everyday I get in those peoples face about how they are treating black people. In this case we are talking about an innocent dog. Race wasn't even mentioned in this story stay on topic please
 

23qwerty

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I know black people get treated like crap I see it everyday and everyday I get in those peoples face about how they are treating black people. In this case we are talking about an innocent dog. Race wasn't even mentioned in this story stay on topic please
Called out for saying stupid shit: "uhh stay on topic pls"
 

Adventureracing

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I know black people get treated like crap I see it everyday and everyday I get in those peoples face about how they are treating black people. In this case we are talking about an innocent dog. Race wasn't even mentioned in this story stay on topic please

I think on the topic of police being punished due to their actions I'd say it's perfectly on topic.
 

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I don't understand why he got demoted. If the guy can't afford to look after the dog, I am guessing that was the reason here, then isn't it better that he took the dog to a shelter to be rehouse than abandoning it into the street. Though the better option would have probably been asking anyone on the force if they were willing to take the dog off his hands.

Though the article does highlight that there needs to be more support from the police force after the dog retires, especially if it gets costly.
 

Midramble

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I know black people get treated like crap I see it everyday and everyday I get in those peoples face about how they are treating black people. In this case we are talking about an innocent dog. Race wasn't even mentioned in this story stay on topic please

Ok... so some context. Dogs go to shelters very very often. This dog did, it got picked up and readopted by one of the officers. It even sounds like the dog had a fun time in the shelter according to the article. The article also mentions that the penalty for the officer for sheltering was demotion. Seemingly a heavy penalty which is rare among the force. So the topic is also repercussions for police misjudgment or wrongful action no? On the topic of how police are penalized for misjudgment, wrongful action, or mistakes, this stands in very stark contrast to what is the norm of nearly no penalty for the wrongful death (I repeat DEATH) of a human, child or adult. So, it is hard to talk about the themes of this article without addressing this massive contextual conflict. Would you agree?
 
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Kirblar

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These stories are bad enough usually that my first read was that the dog got demoted. Glad to see he got punished but they really should be instituting some form of basic insurance coverage, it looks like for a dog that age it'd come out to like $2000, which doesn't seem like a budget buster, given that Labrador Retrievers generally don't often live past 15 years.
 

Evan

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"You are with them 24 hours a day. It's like having a baby," Mr. Geraci said. "If you have a dog for nine years, you aren't going to get rid of a dog for no reason."

unless you have no heart.
 

Mr. X

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Waiting for the union to release a statement about how he's being punished before all facts are out and how the weak chief is folding to public pressure.
 

pokeystaples

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I don't understand why he got demoted. If the guy can't afford to look after the dog, I am guessing that was the reason here, then isn't it better that he took the dog to a shelter to be rehouse than abandoning it into the street. Though the better option would have probably been asking anyone on the force if they were willing to take the dog off his hands.

Though the article does highlight that there needs to be more support from the police force after the dog retires, especially if it gets costly.
This was my take as well. Dude realized he couldn't care for the dog. He didn't dump the dog on a corner or anything. He could have called around and asked for help finding it a home, but I don't think that's worth a demotion.
 

PSqueak

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While law enforcement agencies pay the veterinary bills for dogs while they are on the force, many departments stop covering them after they leave, said Richard Geraci, a trustee at the Retired Police Canine Foundation. Former police dogs can require expensive food, and their treatment for common ailments, such as cancer, can cost thousands of dollars, he said. "At least once a month, people whose dogs have cancer and can't afford it, they call and they are destitute," said Mr. Geraci, who is also a detective in the New York Police Department and has a police dog.

So this bit is implying the officer couldn't afford to keep the dog, right? Maybe it's just an assumption on their part.

Still a dick move, pretty sure that could have been handled by the police department, as in assigning him to someone who can afford to care for the dog.
 

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Welp, this thread really took a sudden turn.
I don't understand why he got demoted. If the guy can't afford to look after the dog, I am guessing that was the reason here, then isn't it better that he took the dog to a shelter to be rehouse than abandoning it into the street. Though the better option would have probably been asking anyone on the force if they were willing to take the dog off his hands.

Though the article does highlight that there needs to be more support from the police force after the dog retires, especially if it gets costly.
Because typically an animal is euthanize if he doesn't get adopted in four to seven days. Some shelters would even do it as short as two days if it is jampacked with animals already. Even if small, I wouldn't just give him up to an animal shelter to die.