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AMD Ryzen (Zen 3) 5000 Series Announced - Available November 5th
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Good for AMD but the price increase is crazy. AMD will probably release cheaper non-X models next year. But right now I would have to pay about 66% more for a Zen 5000 8 core CPU and about 75% more for a Zenn 5000 6 core CPU in comparison to the cheapest Zen 3000 CPU model. This is really disappointing.
I was thinking about buying a new gaming PC this year but now I will wait until Intel release their next CPU generation. Not because I want to buy an Intel CPU but I hope they can provide a little bit competition and that the prices for AMD CPUs will drop until then.
I was thinking about buying a new gaming PC this year but now I will wait until Intel release their next CPU generation. Not because I want to buy an Intel CPU but I hope they can provide a little bit competition and that the prices for AMD CPUs will drop until then.
Not a fan of the $50 increase across the board, but I do like the specs on display here.
Will hold off until I can see some benches, or if I maybe please finally get my hands on a 3080 and I run into any hiccups
Doubtful. 4k isn't as CPU intensive as with higher framerates, so you should be good.
They're directly competitive with Intel's current highest echelon due to the big uplift in single-thread performance.
With Intel's next gen desktop processors not landing until sometime in 2021, this is basically AMD's opening.
Will hold off until I can see some benches, or if I maybe please finally get my hands on a 3080 and I run into any hiccups
Doubtful. 4k isn't as CPU intensive as with higher framerates, so you should be good.
They're directly competitive with Intel's current highest echelon due to the big uplift in single-thread performance.
With Intel's next gen desktop processors not landing until sometime in 2021, this is basically AMD's opening.
I mean they had a slide on it - at 1080P
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I don't see a compelling reason to upgrade
Looking at the prices, I don't feel bad about being unable to plug in the Zen 3 cpus into my b350 motherboard. This makes my decision easier to just swap my 1700x for a 3700x and stick with that for a few years.
Too right.
That price bump is not worth it at all for the performance gain.
The 3700X was too perfect and fucked the 3800X and XT, and now even more so fucked the 5800X.
I see no logical reason to buy one.
Gaming.....you arent gaining enough to justify ~100 dollars.
Productivity.....you are a few dollars shy of a 3900X
New features......lol what?
Given that the 3700X was so good that it torpedoed the need for the 3800X/XT, they probably intentionally left that segment vacant this launch, we'll probably see a 5700X and lower Ryzen 3 equivalents later on.
This. I have a 3700x and im like, why would I pay 50 bucks more for it's supposed equivalent in the 5800x for marginal increases?
Yeah this pricing is not what I was hoping for. I'll wait and see what rocket lake brings knowing now they'll have pcie 4.0 in q1 '21
Ok that was my immediate thought. I'm new to pc gaming but those prices seem like a significant departure from their strategy in the past. Perhaps the tech requires it, but the 550 number seems lame to me.
Considering the pricing, I think that I'll just go for the R5 3600 (coming from an I7 4770) and just wait a few years until it's really necessary to upgrade to an 8 core machine.
I think i'm just going to stay with the 3900x and wait for Zen 4. I game at 4K 120 fps so I don't think I will see much improvement and the upgrade to Zen 4 would be amazing.
Same here, I'll pick up a 3600 with a B550 motherboard, so that if we get a cheaper 5600 or 5700X in 6 months I can upgrade.
These are CPUs we're talking about. 5% is more than the difference between a 3900X and a 10900K on average.
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As long as there's an AM4 bracket in your AIO (which usually does) you're good.
I'd be interested to see if it is 5% better in real world benches rather than just marketing material.
The current best CPU for gaming is a 6c/12t CPU from Intel for ~$300. Not sure what people were expecting honestly.
I was thinking on getting the 5800X, but after seeing that price, I'm seriously considering just going with the i7 10700k. I care about high framerates in games over resolution, and emulation is pretty important to me.
I currently have a 1080p 144 Hz monitor and plan to get an RTX 3070. I might upgrade to a 1440p 144 Hz monitor next year.
Thoughts...?
I currently have a 1080p 144 Hz monitor and plan to get an RTX 3070. I might upgrade to a 1440p 144 Hz monitor next year.
Thoughts...?
Saying it's only a $50 increase is deceptive if they're not announcing their whole lineup yet. Those old same core step up versions (3600X, 3800X) were never worth their MSRP pricing. AMD holding back all their cheaper SKUs feels a bit sleazy since they have not really done that yet with Ryzen.
Too rich for my blood. I think I paid 206 for my 2700. Between being on sale at Newegg, and the stupid sales ebay was running every other month (purchased through the Newegg store on ebay).
I'm also not sure how I'd be hamstrung my memory speeds. I have some high quality Samsung B-Die, but I run it at 3200/Cas 14/really aggressive sub-timings. My mobo is only rated to overclock to 3466. So I don't even think I could prioritize speed over latency even if I wanted to.
I'm also not sure how I'd be hamstrung my memory speeds. I have some high quality Samsung B-Die, but I run it at 3200/Cas 14/really aggressive sub-timings. My mobo is only rated to overclock to 3466. So I don't even think I could prioritize speed over latency even if I wanted to.
I didn't say that.
But if my understanding is correct, the 5800X will have a similar single threaded performance as that of the i7 10700K, while also having the same amount of cores and threads. So I would get basically the same performance in emulation and other CPU intensive gaming scenarios with both CPUs, right? I can get the i7 for like 369€ right now...
Ohhh, I misunderstood the initial post then.
I'm currently using an i7-4790K, mostly for emulation too, and was deciding which CPU to upgrade to in the near future.
Given the price/performance though, the 10700K would make more sense.
I'd be missing out on PCIe 4.0 though :( that's what makes the choice not very clear
Keep that thing chugging till 2022, baby. DDR5 should be ready for you by then.
Single thread is apparently superior and current 10700k is missing some features like pcie4, if you can spend the extra I would go towards the 5800x.
With these prices and the very slight gaming performance gain over what Intel is doing even with the 7nm vs 14nm I think I will just wait until Alder lake to see what Intel can do with 10nm. Gaming performance is really my main take away so waiting a year for Intel seems like the right play when both keep going higher on prices.
Alder Lake is supposed to be DDR5 ready, but you know damn well DDR5 pricing will be insane and will take a while before they get to reasonable pricing per kit.
You don't think it'd be safe to get a Zen 2? I'm also building a new machine and having seen this info I was thinking of getting a 3700x, pairing it with a 3080 and then upgrading to Zen 3 is a couple of years. Is that a bad idea?
Very excited, though i dont understand how the 5900 and 5950 are both 105watt? How can that be?
Depends on needs. The zen3 give you a little more longevity. I'm want 1440p and 4k benches to see how much stuff improved.