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AMD Ryzen™ 5000 Reveal |OT| Zen 3 Go Brrr

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vestan

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Shamelessly stole the OT format from JaseC

❓ What:
AMD will officially unveil their new line of Ryzen 5000 desktop processors featuring the Zen 3 architecture. The 22 minute YouTube premiere will have a particular focus on gaming and content creation.

⏰ When:
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⁉ What to expect:
The big one: +15% IPC uplift over Zen 2 and +5% bump in clocks
Unified 8-core CCX to reduce latency
Zen 3 will either close the performance gap in gaming or outright beat Intel and take the crown for the first time in over a decade, at least until Rocket Lake in 2021
Support for 400 & 500-series chipsets on the AM4 socket

R9 5950X - 16/32
R9 5900X - 12/24
R7 5800X - 8/16
R5 5600X - 6/12
 
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Mecha Meister

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I totally forgot this was today, this should be interesting!

Zen 2 is fantastic and the latency reductions and performance that is rumoured for Zen 3 sounds promising, I'm excited to see what the improvements are on offer!
 
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If Zen 3 closes the perf gap in gaming, I can see this being the value CPU of choice for many years that will hold up very well

I own a 3700x and i'd argue that it's also in the same boat, but yeah Zen 3 should be amazing
 
Napalm_Frank

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Tora said:
If Zen 3 closes the perf gap in gaming, I can see this being the value CPU of choice for many years that will hold up very well

I own a 3700x and i'd argue that it's also in the same boat, but yeah Zen 3 should be amazing
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Doesn't this in theory crush the CPU in next gen consoles? I doubt you'd have to upgrade for the entire gen.
 
daninthemix

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"Unified 8-core CCX to reduce latency" - does this mean on 12+ core models there'll be performance / fabric traversal issues as in the past?
 

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So I've been out of the loop for a while, am I going to ha e to upgrade my 2500k soon?
 
tuxfool

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daninthemix said:
"Unified 8-core CCX to reduce latency" - does this mean on 12+ core models there'll be performance / fabric traversal issues as in the past?
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Yes. But how big an issue is it for most users, as of right now?

Are you really going to need fast inter-core communication for more than 6 cores?

And if you're working on HPC and server tasks, you're going to want to handle NUMA in some form or another.
 
ShapeDePapa

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Do these new processor generally release at the same price that the last gen ones? Would the 5700x be the same price as the 3700x?
 
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Building a new pc asap, but waiting for this processor and a 3070. How long till this processor actually comes out do people think/guess?
 
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vestan

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5800X will be the CPU to get most likely. I'm expecting it to stand toe-to-toe with the 10900k and even beat it out in some cases. Leaked benchmarks have been interesting. Super curious to see how the 5900X and 5950X do too.

gaogaogao said:
what happened to the 4000?
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Skipped to 5000 since Laptop and APU Zen 2 have the 4000 branding. Now they're all under 5000 Zen 3.

crepuscule said:
These won't be compatible with Asus A320 motherboard, right?
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No

EDIT: fixed my spelling lol
 
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Tora

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Napalm_Frank said:
Doesn't this in theory crush the CPU in next gen consoles? I doubt you'd have to upgrade for the entire gen.
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Yep.

Even desktop Zen 2 is significantly better than the console counterparts; With PS5/XSX it's clocked lower, missing tonnes of cache and some feature/instruction sets but they're still very very good of course.
 
gaogaogao

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yeah but they also used '3000' branding in laptops
jumping ahead is not really a solution. they are trying to solve the problem of jumping ahead by jumping ahead more.
whatever
 

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gaogaogao said:
yeah but they also used '3000' branding in laptops
jumping ahead is not really a solution
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They did, and it's a problem because the arch didn't align. If they can keep model numbers and arch aligned, that's a good thing. Of course, I have no doubt it'll get fuck up again soon enough.
 
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Tora said:
Yep.

Even desktop Zen 2 is significantly better than the console counterparts; With PS5/XSX it's clocked lower, missing tonnes of cache and some feature/instruction sets but they're still very very good of course.
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Yeah, it's worth hammering home to people that don't follow this closely that while these will smash the consoles in terms of performance, it isn't a situation where the consoles have bad CPUs.

God, we're so close to finally moving away from trash Jaguar cores. I cannot wait.
 
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eddy said:
Seems reasonable to expect they'll want to up their margins somewhat, but I've been wrong before.

Expecting 'XT'-like pricing.
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That's what I thought. Unless Zen 3 is extremely better than Zen 2 I'll probably still get a 3700X for my new build. Will be a nice change from my i5 2500k lol.
 
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Hasney said:
Yeah, it's worth hammering home to people that don't follow this closely that while these will smash the consoles in terms of performance, it isn't a situation where the consoles have bad CPUs.

God, we're so close to finally moving away from trash Jaguar cores. I cannot wait.
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It's amazing isn't it! SSD's too, it's just going to be wonderful
 
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Now that im using AMD with my new PC, and got a Ryzen 9 3900X with it, im going to look into the 5950X and see how it performs. Maybe i get it in some years, as i didnt pay much fot the 3900 (thats why I went with amd this time instead of intel). I even got a mother board future proffed with the Pcie4 SSD installed.
Would really like how CPU hungry games like Planet Coaster behave with Zen 3. If its much better than than intels i9s that would be great.
 
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vestan

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Man, if Zen 3 rivals Comet Lake on single core perf I will be VERY happy.
 
Simuly

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Nice surprise I had it in my head this reveal was tomorrow. Super excited to see the single core improvements, rumours are it is massive.

5Ghz boost on one SKU at least is a lock imo.
 
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