That Minecraft demo was full on path traced. Which i believe is more demanding than ray tracing. The fact it's running on the series x this far ahead of release is impressive.
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AMD RDNA 2 Microsoft DirectX Raytracing (DXR) Demo
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That Minecraft demo was full on path traced. Which i believe is more demanding than ray tracing. The fact it's running on the series x this far ahead of release is impressive.
I don't know if it was you who was arguing that AMD would be unable to match Nvidia RT on first try, if so, well done. You were spot on.
It just looks so ugly, my expectation of RT from next-gen consoles is at bottom level.
I'm sure that demo's RT was technically impressive, but artistically it looked so ugly it was hard to be impressed.
The RT effects itself in this are much more primitive and simple looking than in those examples. The geometry is actually more complex.
Technically impressive I suppose, but not visually appealing at all. REFLECTIONS!!! Everything else looked like crap, definitely not like what I would expect in a next-gen game.
I'm more impressed by raytraced lighting a'la Minecraft.
I'm more impressed by raytraced lighting a'la Minecraft.
Stop to post things from this guy and same for Sony equivalent tidux, year is a fox. All shitty people.
That is not how it works though. Experienced graphics programmer if anyone knows there are infinite amount of hacks and ways to introduce constraints in order to optimize one case. The more general something needs to be the less you know about its limitations without seeing actual performance details and source code since one-time ricks and tailored scenes are out of the question.
What really separates this from pure-SW only solution like what Crytek uses? Why there are so many planar-y surfaces and trace depth is poor? Performance numbers? It's marketing material for sure and not too convincing so far.
I don't think SX is going to have much trouble with RT due to 52 CU's, but the PS5 i dunno, i feel like that is going to be 2060 RTX tier at best. We will see anyway.
The point of the demo is that every single surface is using 100% real time reflections
Yes the art direction is ugly, but the fact that it's even possible is pretty nuts.
I was just playing RE3 DEMO on my X1X last night and the game looked beautiful, but anytime I walked past something reflective (subway car, glass, mirror, puddle, etc) I just went right past with no reflection and I will admit it kinda got tagged in my brain as (hmm, kinda disappointing) because of all this tech on the precipice of becoming reality.
Yes the art direction is ugly, but the fact that it's even possible is pretty nuts.
I was just playing RE3 DEMO on my X1X last night and the game looked beautiful, but anytime I walked past something reflective (subway car, glass, mirror, puddle, etc) I just went right past with no reflection and I will admit it kinda got tagged in my brain as (hmm, kinda disappointing) because of all this tech on the precipice of becoming reality.
I get that it's ugly, but it's a great tech demo. I think every surface in it is reflective. It's literally a raytraced reflection test demo.
But will complex games have full rt anyway? Or just like pc games with some effects where gamers cant tell the difference?
If its slower than existing nvidida rt tech, we arent getting reytraced games on consoles
yeah, this demo did not impress.. sadly.
The path traced Minecraft stuff was more impressive..
The path traced Minecraft stuff was more impressive..
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Reflections on reflections is pretty difficult so running as it is is its own achievement
But we are getting ray traced games on consoles. Thank nvidia for kicking off ray tracing then in a few years thank Sony and Microsoft for dedicating hardware to it in consoles.
The adoption rate will go up and many more of the studios out there will optimize their engines for it.
I know, but its also a point of the demo and hardware accelerated RT :)
Some tech demos I hope turn into real games. This isn't one of them. It gets the job done, I guess, but they could have used something a bit more appealing.
They have marketing support from Nvidia, I imagine that prohibits it
How? You can buy a game and show it running on your h/w. There's nothing stopping you from doing this.
didn't a BF5 image show up in an AMD slide on RDNA2 or am I misremembering?
I'm sure there is, just as there are restrictions in how you can use music and movies for commercial useage and why you pay big bucks to do so. It's probably in the EULA
It's exactly how platform specific marketing deals work, you pay to associate the content with your product and prevent others from doing so.
So all these benchmarks of different h/w in some game on YouTube are impossible then? Got it.
Don't just make stuff up. It's not how marketing deals work, in PC GPU space at least. There's nothing preventing AMD from using any of NV marketed titles in their materials. In fact, they've done it more than a dozen of times in their official benchmarking guides at the launch of new CPUs/GPUs.
The only possible reason is them trying to avoid any direct comparisons between RDNA2 and Turing in RT performance for now.
You don't know that. Any more than I know they have a deal.
The end.
Buying a game doesn't give you unlimited rights to do what you want with that IP and all of the content , art, music ,characters etc content ESPECIALLY if you are a huge business . See those cases of publishers enacting DCMA on videos when it doesn't suit them.
Are those youtube videos from AMD, or are they from a private individual? Do they show gameplay footage?
Even if this isn't the reason here,doesn't mean it doesn't/can't happen.
Ugly demo. I'd prefer better graphics and no AMD ray tracing to be honest.
Not only is it obviously less impressive than Nvidia's RTX, it's also less impressive than Imagination Technologies PowerVR Wizard GPU ray tracing.
And some of this PowerVR ray tracing is years old.
Not only is it obviously less impressive than Nvidia's RTX, it's also less impressive than Imagination Technologies PowerVR Wizard GPU ray tracing.
And some of this PowerVR ray tracing is years old.
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Thank goodness you didn't have a hand in these machines then.
As a company like AMD, you cant just record footage of games using your tech without having authorization and just publish it.
There is a very lengthy legal process involved in these things when you are a company
Thank goodness I didn't, I know. I'm just saying I'm not impressed with AMD's demo, and if that's anything to go on, I'd rather see more improved rasterization.
I'm sure developers will make the most of RDNA 2 RT though, since it's in both consoles and upcoming Radeon PC cards. Probably wider support than RTX.
I think you'll get both. Lighting is gonna be bonkers next gen.
that's pretty not-possible. if they make an Xbox version, they inherently make a Nvidia-supported game thanks to how DX12U work
remake one of their old Ruby tech demos
They could always use 3DMark or just release their own demo (which could be a problem if it requires the latest unreleased bits that DXR 1.1 does not already contain). I guess we need to wait until HW launch then.