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AMD RDNA 2 Microsoft DirectX Raytracing (DXR) Demo
- Thread starter Theorry
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This is why you go with something like UE4 Troll instead. Something that at least would look good with the ray tracing turned off.
I thought the same, lol.
Goes to show that tech with no art direction means nothing.
That was ugly as sin, and the frame rate was poor. If I were MS i would not want to be associated with this as advertisement. lol
lol..typical.
general public:: "raytracing is only about reflective shiny things, i dont care!"
developers: "no its not! its the future! but here is a demo with only shiny reflective things!"
general public:: "raytracing is only about reflective shiny things, i dont care!"
developers: "no its not! its the future! but here is a demo with only shiny reflective things!"
Not sure why people are complaining *again* about a technical presentation not being on par with consumers expectations.
This video is meant for developers to show them the capabilities of the system and the new API under a reasonable amount of stress.
And it's doing that just fine. Claiming that it sucks artistically and it doesn't look photorealistic it's very weird.
Why should it? It's meant to have all surfaces overly reflective, that's the entire point.
It's not meant to look good to consumers.
This video is meant for developers to show them the capabilities of the system and the new API under a reasonable amount of stress.
And it's doing that just fine. Claiming that it sucks artistically and it doesn't look photorealistic it's very weird.
Why should it? It's meant to have all surfaces overly reflective, that's the entire point.
It's not meant to look good to consumers.
Up there with the worst "showcase trailers" i have ever seen. Makes me NOT want Raytracing. Quite an achievment AMD.
Probably the same as the build version of this tech demo; single digits.
I kid I kid.
Ha sorry i can't find it back but no i'm talking old school raytracing demos, way before real time r for games, there was one with some sort of watch, jewels and chess with tons of reflection and bloom all over the place.
That demo makes me think of this kind of old school demo cause i think what's wrong with it is that it's just pure reflection everywhere and it wouldn't be really impressive without RT.
The frame cadence of the 60 fps footage on YT is:
Frame 1, Frame 1, Frame 1, Frame 2, Frame 2, Frame 3, Frame 3, Frame 3, Frame 4, Frame 4, etc.
That would be like, what... 24 fps?
Excuse me, I have to feel validated about my RTX purchase (that was totally worth it btw, I played Quake 2 RTX on medium settings on my 2060) so I need to attack the competitor's alternative even if I don't know what I'm talking about.
It'll be interesting to see if that was the best of their RDNA2 GPUs, their entry level one, or whatever's roughly equivalent to the PS5/XSX (assuming the consoles are somewhere inbetween). The performance looked kinda meh but maybe that's just something about the video.
Tbh this isn't really interesting for developers as there are no details how it differs from Nvidia, it might implement the same API but if the underlying HW is radically different it probably has different perf implications and that would be the interesting stuff, not some video without performance details or source code.
The description for the demo (which is literally in the second post) clearly states:
Sure, you can talk about how this isn't aimed at consumers and therefore doesn't have to look pretty, but when you look at similar demos that NVidia puts out (like the Star Wars demo which also shows off reflections and is also linked in the second post) it really feels like that AMD (and Sony too since you referenced yesterday's presentation) do not understand that consumers are going to be exposed to this stuff and not properly understand how to show off their tech in both a practical but also an interesting way.AMD said:
Haven't seen the video yet. But to those complaining.
is there something wrong with their implementation?
What are we supposed to be seeing?
Any 🍎 to 🍎 comparison with nvidia's solution?
is there something wrong with their implementation?
What are we supposed to be seeing?
Any 🍎 to 🍎 comparison with nvidia's solution?
The complaints are about the presentation and NVidia is just better at presenting their tech is a more pleasing fashion.
The AMD video everything is a shiny chrome surface in a very brightly lit world. The reflection handling was *really* impressive.
But it looked like an updated version of the dancing Xbox robot mixed with Beast Wars from a design standpoint.
This video is like time traveling back to 1999. Kitsh as hell, but I do kinda like its badness a little.
If they did indeed focus on reflections, shadows, and AO then they really should've adjusted the scene complexity to incorporate better lighting/GI as well. It looks incredibly flat. Doesn't help that there is very little color in the environment.
If they did indeed focus on reflections, shadows, and AO then they really should've adjusted the scene complexity to incorporate better lighting/GI as well. It looks incredibly flat. Doesn't help that there is very little color in the environment.
What is this showing for a developer? What conclusions can you make from it?
That ray tracing exists and it's realtime?
This is the blog post they've linked:
Powering Next-Generation Gaming Visuals with AMD RDNA 2 and DirectX 12 Ultimate
AMD has long been a strong supporter of next-generation, low-overhead graphics API technologies like Microsoft® DirectX® 12 that help take games to a whole new level. Therefore, we’re pleased to announce that in partnership with Microsoft we will provide full support for DirectX® 12 Ultimate in...
Which links to this post:
Announcing DirectX 12 Ultimate - DirectX Developer Blog
It is time for DirectX to evolve once again. From the team that has brought PC and Console gamers the latest in graphics innovation for nearly 25 years, we are beyond pleased to bring gamers DirectX 12 Ultimate, the culmination of the best graphics technology we’ve ever introduced in an...
devblogs.microsoft.com
there's nothing wrong with it, it's just aesthetically ugly
What is this showing for a developer? What conclusions can you make from it?
That ray tracing exists and it's realtime?
This is the blog post they've linked:
Powering Next-Generation Gaming Visuals with AMD RDNA 2 and DirectX 12 Ultimate
AMD has long been a strong supporter of next-generation, low-overhead graphics API technologies like Microsoft® DirectX® 12 that help take games to a whole new level. Therefore, we’re pleased to announce that in partnership with Microsoft we will provide full support for DirectX® 12 Ultimate in...community.amd.com
Which links to this post:
Announcing DirectX 12 Ultimate - DirectX Developer Blog
It is time for DirectX to evolve once again. From the team that has brought PC and Console gamers the latest in graphics innovation for nearly 25 years, we are beyond pleased to bring gamers DirectX 12 Ultimate, the culmination of the best graphics technology we’ve ever introduced in an...
In the presentation they do break down the demo from a development perspective (at a very high level)
Why would developers of all people need such video to know what capabilities RT has?
Again compare it with Nvidia ones that are way more coherent and artistically done better.
"RT does reflections". "Chrome City!!!!!" I hate that so much.. Just have a good image. The art is soooo bad.
AMD has always been god awful at marketing and this is no exception.
LOL this was a throwback tech demo, reminds me of the early 2000's. Awful but it shows the feature.
Regardless of whether you like the demo or not you gotta be excited about the upcoming RDNA2 GPUs. They are going to help the uptake on real-time raytracing, along with the RDNA2 consoles. So far RTX has had horrible uptake from a game perspective, half a dozen games and most of them it's entirely forgettable, with a super-low efficiency.
Regardless of whether you like the demo or not you gotta be excited about the upcoming RDNA2 GPUs. They are going to help the uptake on real-time raytracing, along with the RDNA2 consoles. So far RTX has had horrible uptake from a game perspective, half a dozen games and most of them it's entirely forgettable, with a super-low efficiency.
