Concern trolling includes disingenuous "concerns" which I would say includes the above post making proclamations of RT doom based on absolutely zero evidence.
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Concern trolling includes disingenuous "concerns" which I would say includes the above post making proclamations of RT doom based on absolutely zero evidence.
The pricing on low end card is the biggest let down. Why is that $580? Better RT performance, DLSS and Nvidia's drivers means I'd still probably go 3070 if they were priced the same even if AMD have a slight advantage in raster performance but at least there'd be a conversation.
At $580? Who is going to choose that over a 3070?
At $580? Who is going to choose that over a 3070?
If I can actually buy it, yes. I've been trying to buy a 3080 since launch with no success.
Yeah to be honest I think I'll still go with Nvidia if these two gpu were similar performance-wise.
But AMD might release their own DLSS-like thing.
I hate exclusive features. Just imagine if AMD had their own RT and DLSS and we end up with half of games only supporting Nivida and the other half only AMD.
Yeah, a lot of folks on YT are wondering why it's being marketed as a gaming card at all. I didn't even know 8K sets an panels were out there in the wild.
Yep, they'll sell every last card they can make this holiday. They could charge more for both the 6800 and 6800XT and get away with it.
I guess I don't get why they have the 6800 and 6800xt. Why would you get the 6800 for only saving 80$?
Why would they? 3070 with its features at $500 is perfectly positioned against a slightly faster in raster games 6800 at $580.
I think it requires 5XX series mobo too. So it's not like you just have to update your CPU, if you're running an X470 board, you'd need to ditch that too.
Kinda feels like they invested so much into aiming for the high end that it's hard to subsequently scale down for the lower end.
And double the Ram. It has different tradeoffs. Consumer choice is good.
power draw is less probably, and also the size of the card will likely be smaller.
So, from my understanding AMD is beating Nvidia in price:performance quite handedly with rasterization... I think it's going to be really really interesting to see how much of that ground Nvidia makes back up again with RT performance benchmarks. Especially since ray tracing is going to be a much bigger thing next generation.
Did the consoles come with their own specific hardware for DLSS?
Same, i didnt even bother turning it on in Death Stranding.
out of all of this you pulled out this?
you get 8gb more ram.
power consumption, really? on ~300 watt cards, you're really worried about what, a ten watt difference? when afaik amd has the edge on lower power consumption than nvidia on the other two cards which went unmentioned?
i do agree that was probably the most meh pricing though. Assuming you consider raster performance a wash (pending independent benchmarks etc) then you're paying $80 for 8GB more RAM. And then you could probably argue Nvidia brings more with DLSS/RT. For me a non decision I'm paying it, but I'm OCD about having enough VRAM. It's a red line. Most people arent that way. At least the 6800XT is $50 cheaper for similar (maybe slightly better) raster/more RAM than 3080.
Probably because it tanks your framerate too much without DLSS?
RT is such an important part of the stack moving in the present and the future.
It's fair for people to question AMD when they hold an entire conference on new GPUs, proudly show graphs with comparisons to Nvidia, but wholesale gloss over the RT performance.
This shouldn't need to be explained as not being concern trolling.
Drawing preliminary conclusions pending benchmarks is above board.
there is 40 computer unit 6700XT with 12gb vram(rumored). That might be the $400 GPU.
I think it's priced to move you more towards a 6800XT card, which is very well priced vs the 3080.
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