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AMD Financial Analyst Day 2020 | March 5, 1:00 PM - 6:00 PM PST
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Anything to back it up?
That makes more sense. Otherwise it would have been stuck at 45 for a while. Wich doesnt make sense offcourse.
Good news indeed. The bitcoin madness drove prices sky high.
Ah, so AMD is just rounding it to a nice number then. Cool. Again, I feel the total between both (despite the PS4 being way ahead) is fairly healthy.
Xbox One Sales Reach 50 Million In New Turtle Beach Earnings Call
A recent Turtle Beach earnings call for this quarter has given the total of Xbox One sales as having reached 50 million, around half as much as the number
segmentnext.com
This would be incredibly stupid thing to do as it would kill a lot of synergy inside a GPU lineup. The only reason they are doing this now is because they have the last GCN remnant in the form of Arcturus which is pointless as a gaming GPU in RDNA era. It will die out eventually and all their GPUs will switch to RDNA, including the HPC ones.
Well unless you have a hand in the tape out process during the fab then you won't know first, but learn as with the rest of us when there is a deep breakdown by likes of Digital Foundry or Anandtech... But personally I bet for AMD 'advanced node' means their version of 7nm+.
Xbox One Sales Reach 50 Million In New Turtle Beach Earnings Call
A recent Turtle Beach earnings call for this quarter has given the total of Xbox One sales as having reached 50 million, around half as much as the number
I'm not the person disputing 50m lol.
A. You can't mine bitcoins on GPUs.
B. You can still mine crypto tokens on RDNA GPUs. If the prices will go into the sky again it will likely be way more economical to do this again instead of purchasing a server "compute accelerator" GPU for $5000.
Again: all these nodes are considered as "advanced" in the industry right now, including Intel's 10nm and such. It just means "bleeding edge node", nothing more.
Yup, feels like it's been around this amount forever.
Ok, makes sense now, lol.
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Math.
Sony is at 108.9m and AMD said 150m so the difference is 41.1m.
But if AMD is using a rounded number like Zhuge claims I don't know so we can only trust him in that case.
And honestly it's not like 50m changes the situation. Xbox One has been a disaster for MS in terms of sales.
They won't be GPUs per se they will be marketed differently and to just serious platform builders anyway. Not to people on the market for graphics cards, that's why it is said as 'compute accelerators' -> think like Nvidia Quadro
I wonder how many sold Xbox are Xbox One X models and how many of those XBX models are from players new to the Xbox brand or people who upgraded from an Xbox One S instead.
Ya'll keep misusing disaster. Xbox One was a disappointment but performed solidly. The Wii U was a disaster.
Gee. I thought, based on your first post, that it was about accuracy of sales, not about console war.
I suppose 150+ and 160+ wouldn't make a huge difference to AMD's investors, and will ensure AMD maintains plausible deniability regarding revealing Xbox One figures.
A. Wrong. You can.
B. So you claim to know or even predict their asking price even though the hw isn't even produced but only on the roadmap. Got it!
It's why most reasonable people are expecting a better showing for the next Xbox. 44 million is not a disaster but I guess that's the way you want to interpret things. It started off as a disaster but thankflly Phil got better support from the new CEO. Since then they've rectified the power disadvantage with beautifully designed new hardware, made waves being more pro-consumer with how they've handled BC and crossplay GamePass plus PC support, and doubled their studios.
The WiiU was a disaster, selling 40 million plus isn't.
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Wow, Sony really destroyed Microsoft in console sales this gen didn't they.
Nvidia Quadro is not a "compute accelerator", it's a professional videocard made on the same GPUs you see in GeForce. You're thinking about Tesla. But Tesla uses a dedicated silicon only in the highest end of the spectrum - and it's still a fully capable GPU (Volta GV100) which you can build a videocard on (i.e. Titan V).
Nv does this for a reason: it gives them a lot of flexibility in covering different markets with the same base product. They have been very successful at that.
Some of you have never seen one of these huh? Its going to be boring unless you're very much into financials related to their product roadmaps. There is some interesting tech stuff but its going to be boring for the most part.
A. You can't. Learn a bit before saying "wrong" to me about these things.
B. You expect them to sell this "compute accelerator" for the price of 5600XT?
According to Daniel Ahmad Xbox is over 50 million. I remember seeing the 45 million number years ago
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Regarding your A statement.
a.) You could before. (coming from someone that did it back in the early days)
Have no idea if that statement holds firm now, but I think the difficulty is too high already. It started to get harder back then
Claims in October 2019 were that 7nm+ has comparable yields as 7nm:
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/mi...acturing_-_euv_manufacturing_for_the_masses/1
Currently I see no reason to believe that AMD changed plans.
I can help you reframe this in fewer words:
"I was factually incorrect so I'm going to move the goalposts."
Happy to help.
Sure you could. But you couldn't already even back during the last mining craze and you sure can't now - you can technically but you will essentially be spending money on electricity and gaining nothing as a result; not sure if this can even be considered "mining".
I know all of this. They used to talk about 7nm+ in their sides as well. To me, this is very odd.
I 100% expected they were in 7nm+ R&D starting early 2018 with mass production beginning in October. The question is:
1.) why would they suddenly stop talking about 7nm+
2.) why isn't it reflected in the rumored die size.
Yup that parts true. But it definitely wasn't impossible to do so on even Nvidia cards (which sucked if you wanted to do it on them).
Keep in mind I was in it before the mining craze. But got out of it before it hit the big boom...
It'll just get merged with this thread because I guess AMD saying that 150 miliion consoles were sold isn't new thread worthy
Dude
Bitcoin mining with AMD Radeon GPUs
My bitcoin card I've used to mine a whopping 0.8 Bitcoin and held on till it was worth a lot! Radeon R9 290x Tri-X
So...
I am not ruling that out.
I 100% expected they were in 7nm+ R&D starting late 2018/early 2019 with mass production beginning in October 2019. The question is:
1.) Why would they suddenly stop talking about 7nm+?
2.) Why isn't it reflected in the rumored die size?
I would not expect them to marginalize the gains they would see moving to 7nm+