Wow. AMD just conceded. how are you going to let the RTX 3080 launch without even showing what you have?
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AMD announces two events for their new Zen 3 and RDNA2 lines (Zen 3 - October 8, RDNA2 - October 28)
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Not putting out any GPU related information until pretty much November is such a bizarre decision.
You don't want to do anything to dissuade people from buying Ampere?
I mean, it will probably happen, but will come to fruition in what, 2-3 years?
You don't want to do anything to dissuade people from buying Ampere?
6-core CPUs becoming a bottleneck for powerful GPUs is still a hypothetical.
I mean, it will probably happen, but will come to fruition in what, 2-3 years?
GPUs never decrease in price. In fact, they've only been increasing in price. You wait, you lose.
Most next gen games will probably be using some form of raytracing so I think raytracing performance is pretty important.
A 3070 is still about 35+% more powerful than a a series X, and that's not taking DLSS into account, at which point we're talking significantly more powerful.
Super unlikely, given that Cyberpunk is just absolutely loaded with Nvidia tech (in case you mean attached == bundled).
One of AMD's biggest hurdles is supply. They are rolling out three console chips, a CPU spread across multiple platforms and up to (supposedly) four GPUs with a few of those going into mobile as well. All of those are coming from the same foundry on (probably) the same node and they only have so many wafers. It's not very surprising that their desktop GPUs are taking a back seat over the rest of those.
A day (month) late and a dollar short. I don't know if it's just because they aint ready to show it earlier, or because they do not have something that can go against the RTX 3080. Either way, they are letting the 3080 and 3090 be on the market for a month before they even give any details about their offerings in the GPU market. Not a very good tactic, but if it's what they have to do, then nothing can be done about it.
If it was one or two weeks wait after the RTX 3080 launch, I might just have waited to see what they have in store. But right now, I am just gonna go with the 3080 and hope for the best. Although I do have some bias to this, since I am married to nVidia currently with my G-Sync monitor and planning to get an LG OLED later this year which works straight out of the box with G-Sync Compatible (although it works with AMD cards as well with a slight tweak required)
If it was one or two weeks wait after the RTX 3080 launch, I might just have waited to see what they have in store. But right now, I am just gonna go with the 3080 and hope for the best. Although I do have some bias to this, since I am married to nVidia currently with my G-Sync monitor and planning to get an LG OLED later this year which works straight out of the box with G-Sync Compatible (although it works with AMD cards as well with a slight tweak required)
Nice to get a presentation date. Looking forward to get more details. Planning to go for a R5 4600 + RX 6600 combo to fare through this gen in 1080p144fps.
I guess the "late" RDNA2 reveal is related to consoles NDA in some way, doesn't matter much anyway, it's coming out soonish.
I guess the "late" RDNA2 reveal is related to consoles NDA in some way, doesn't matter much anyway, it's coming out soonish.
That's like... completely, 100% wrong.
Nobody will be focusing on performance of "traditional rasterization" in 2021.
It's like suggesting to focus on performance of anisotropic filtering or something. A weird idea.
Also I kinda doubt that it will be easy for AMD to universally beat Ampere even in "traditional rasterization".
Do prices really drop on GPUs? I think starting with 10 series it's all been either at MSRP or in case of 10 series just plain blowing up higher due to mining. Plus I suspect that 3070/3080 just won't be available widely till probably next year at best.
Echoing a lot of feelings already posted, but man... AMD should have that RDNA 2 stuff at end of September latest. Giving Nvidia full month to move HW without any contesting doesn't sound like solid gameplan, but maybe AMD has just borderline given up on competing in dGPU space?
Tells you all you need to know, their cards are shit and they're sending them out to die.
With a later October reveal, I doubt RDNA 2 GPUs will be available before the launch of Cyberpunk 2077. And even if they somehow technically put the launch date ahead of Cyberpunk's release date, it's going to be a paper launch with barely any availability most likely.
October and November will belong to Nvidia and Ampere.
And I feel that Zen 3 is about to become the leading CPU architecture in productivity/multitasking AND gaming.
October and November will belong to Nvidia and Ampere.
And I feel that Zen 3 is about to become the leading CPU architecture in productivity/multitasking AND gaming.
10 series were overpriced by some 10-20% for a couple of months after launch due to supply not satisfying the demand. Not sure how people are forgetting this.
And in about 9 months after 10 series launch there was a 1080Ti launch at which point the 1070 and 1080 got a $50 and $100 price cuts.
Then there was a mining thing but it's hardly something which happens all the time.
20 series got what was basically a price cut with 20 Supers a year after launch.
Which is again a good reason to wait it out till the supply will get to a point where the cards will be sold at MSRP at least instead of with some +20% markup.
Seriously, not even any teasers either.
I feel like AMD knows they're outmatched on the GPU front so I guess they don't want to rush an announcement.
The bigger offense, to me, is letting the 3070 launch before they're willing to give any info. Talk about wanting to persuade no one on the top end to wait.
Can't wait to see how good the 4700x is.
Are there any reasonable guesses how much it will cost on launch? Hopefully not to different from the 251€ from the current 3700x 😅.
Gonna do a huge upgrade soon (from a i7 4790k + GTX 1080).
Getting a new case, a 2080ti (from a friend), "4700x" with a b550m, 2x 16gb DDR4 and a new 1tb nvme WD Black to top it all of.
Right now I'm waiting for Thermaltake to answer my email about purchasing a new bracket which works with my Macho rev b CPU cooler which I really want to continue using.
Will be interesting how well the new pc will run two modern games at the same time.
And my major gripes with the matx pc will be resolved with the additional slot of space between the two gpu's of the new mobo and a bit more space all around.
The 4790k was actually really able to do an exceptionally job running the games we played (E.g. Rocket League, Halo MCC, Gears V and to a lesser extend For Honor) but of course it's almost impossible to do that with something like Warzone due to the CPU.
Are there any reasonable guesses how much it will cost on launch? Hopefully not to different from the 251€ from the current 3700x 😅.
Gonna do a huge upgrade soon (from a i7 4790k + GTX 1080).
Getting a new case, a 2080ti (from a friend), "4700x" with a b550m, 2x 16gb DDR4 and a new 1tb nvme WD Black to top it all of.
Right now I'm waiting for Thermaltake to answer my email about purchasing a new bracket which works with my Macho rev b CPU cooler which I really want to continue using.
Will be interesting how well the new pc will run two modern games at the same time.
And my major gripes with the matx pc will be resolved with the additional slot of space between the two gpu's of the new mobo and a bit more space all around.
The 4790k was actually really able to do an exceptionally job running the games we played (E.g. Rocket League, Halo MCC, Gears V and to a lesser extend For Honor) but of course it's almost impossible to do that with something like Warzone due to the CPU.
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Damn a month to wait still for the news I was waiting for.
Hopefully we get benchmarks quick after that so I can plan which Zen 3 to buy.
Hopefully we get benchmarks quick after that so I can plan which Zen 3 to buy.
Not good enough AMD. Ampere it is. If they done what Nvidia did and show the cards off with some specs, graphs and prices then I could be tempted to wait and buy. But to wait until October just to see wtf it is? No.
I mean AMD could just be waiting until they can get a clear view on the benchmarking of the Nvidia cards and adjust the lineup/pricing accordingly by waiting that long?
I'm still running a 7970 and I'll prolly buy the best value 450-500 dollar card in Q1, my card just needs to hold on a little longer.
I'm still running a 7970 and I'll prolly buy the best value 450-500 dollar card in Q1, my card just needs to hold on a little longer.
Well the teaser was done by an AMD employee over their twitter and it's technically an anouncement for a presentation(s) of future product. That's fine, actually.
Looking forward to this, not built a top end gaming PC in years and I'm going for a Zen 3 & 3080.
Nope, you're not alone. Gamer's who don't have deep pocket are all on the same boat as you're in.
Ok.... what does that have to do with any of what we're discussing? I mean you get what you pay for. A 3070 is going to be more powerful than the most powerful next gen console, and it'll be available BEFORE the next gen console even comes out. That's what you're paying for. A lot of people will just opt for a 3060 in 2021, which is going to still be more poweful than a series X just not by much, again, unless you take DLSS into account.
Yes I'm fairly certain the higher end SKUs will be released by Nov. 8-core and 12-core models likely.
This definitely rules out RDNA2 GPU for me, and while my next build will definitely figure in either a 3070 or 3080, my CPU is almost definitely going to be a new AMD CPU. First time in.... I don't know like 10 years since I went AMD for a CPU?
Goodbye Intel.
Goodbye Intel.
It feels like a big jump this time. But I'm sticking with 2080 super for now - tho I'm curious about AMDs argument
They are winning the CPU fight, clearly.
However the GPU fight with Nvidia, is crazy hard because those ampere GPU are so great this year...I seriously don't see how RDNA2 can fight those figures.
Powering the XSX/PS5 is great but it's not forcibly a sign that you have the better GPUs.
On an unrelated note, always found weird that the CEO of AMD is the niece of the CEO of Nvidia haha.
However the GPU fight with Nvidia, is crazy hard because those ampere GPU are so great this year...I seriously don't see how RDNA2 can fight those figures.
Powering the XSX/PS5 is great but it's not forcibly a sign that you have the better GPUs.
On an unrelated note, always found weird that the CEO of AMD is the niece of the CEO of Nvidia haha.