There is no singular 'real abuser' - they both seem abusive. Amber Heard being shitty and abusive doesn't mean Depp wasn't also and it doesn't excuse him.
She severed his fucking finger.
There is no singular 'real abuser' - they both seem abusive. Amber Heard being shitty and abusive doesn't mean Depp wasn't also and it doesn't excuse him.
Is this in context of a judge refusing to throw out Amber Heard's 100 million dollar countersuit?
Johnny Depp Fails To Get Amber Heard’s $100M Countersuit Tossed, Doubles Down In Legal Battles On Both Sides Of Atlantic
A Virginia judge has refused Johnny Depp's desire to see Amber Heard’s big-bucks counterclaims lawsuit thrown out of court.deadline.com
Clearly somebody who hasn't actually been following this story as of late.There is no singular 'real abuser' - they both seem abusive. Amber Heard being shitty and abusive doesn't mean Depp wasn't also and it doesn't excuse him.
Get the fuck out with this shit and stop making excuses for her, unbelievable.
is it not true that Johnny depp also has plenty of documented instances of being a piece of shit? I'm not defending amber heard. But just because she sucks doesn't make Depp a good guy.
There is no singular 'real abuser' - they both seem abusive. Amber Heard being shitty and abusive doesn't mean Depp wasn't also and it doesn't excuse him.
Depp has personal demons, but that doesn't make him an abuser. He was the victim of physical and mental abuse.is it not true that Johnny depp also has plenty of documented instances of being a piece of shit?
is it not true that Johnny depp also has plenty of documented instances of being a piece of shit?
is it not true that Johnny depp also has plenty of documented instances of being a piece of shit? I'm not defending amber heard. But just because she sucks doesn't make Depp a good guy.
edit: and if I'm misinformed that's on me. I don't follow celebrity drama very closely.
Bruh I'm not feeling Grimes lately either but that's uncalled forWhat the? Musk was dating her? How is Musk always popping up in the weirdest places?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the legal battle ultimately end in Heard's favor? I seem to remember that the judge even spoke highly of Heard's character when all was said-and-done.
IIRC, it seemed like a lot of folks started taking Depp's side as soon as his team put forth his rebuttal, before Heard had responded or the rest of the case played out.
Heard doing shitty things in retaliation doesn't make Depp less of an abuser.
One last thing, even if you feel like Heard is 100% in the wrong, there is no excuse for some of the blatant misogyny in here, looking at the guy who called her a cunt.
No, it ended in The Sun's favor. Heard was a witness.Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the legal battle ultimately end in Heard's favor?
Comments like this are why male abuse victims don't speak up.There is no singular 'real abuser' - they both seem abusive. Amber Heard being shitty and abusive doesn't mean Depp wasn't also and it doesn't excuse him.
Get the fuck out with this shit and stop making excuses for her, unbelievable.
Clearly somebody who hasn't actually been following this story as of late.
Depp has personal demons, but that doesn't make him an abuser. He was the victim of physical and mental abuse.
All his past lovers and female coworkers have also stated under oath that he has always been nothing but gentle and caring.
The Ex-Wives/Spouses/Girlfriends or whatever of Depp even came out and said that Depp never was abusive or anything like that.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the legal battle ultimately end in Heard's favor? I seem to remember that the judge even spoke highly of Heard's character when all was said-and-done.
IIRC, it seemed like a lot of folks started taking Depp's side as soon as his team put forth his rebuttal, before Heard had responded or the rest of the case played out.
Heard doing shitty things in retaliation doesn't make Depp less of an abuser.
One last thing, even if you feel like Heard is 100% in the wrong, there is no excuse for some of the blatant misogyny in here, looking at the guy who called her a cunt.
This is just a classic defence of powerful people who get accused. 'But, but, but...they were so nice to me, they can't be abusive to anyone else surely'
Honestly there are some really weird MRA takes when it comes to Depp on this forum and a lot of it seems to be that as soon as there was evidence of Heard being abusive, people couldn't wait to immediately pronounce Depp innocent and get back to watching Edward Scissorhands or whatever without feeling any guilt + blatant misogyny.
Nah, you don't get to "both sides" this shit after all the leaked tapes.There is no singular 'real abuser' - they both seem abusive. Amber Heard being shitty and abusive doesn't mean Depp wasn't also and it doesn't excuse him.
There is no singular 'real abuser' - they both seem abusive. Amber Heard being shitty and abusive doesn't mean Depp wasn't also and it doesn't excuse him.
Sure, that is possible. Only it was proven that the only person that actually alleged he abused anybody but himself was lying. For instance, per third party testimony because it was Musk, not Depp who had visited her on the night she claimed Depp had hit her. So there is no reason to assume he is an abuser.
Sure, that is possible. Only it was proven that the only person that actually alleged he abused anybody but himself was lying. For instance, because it was Musk, not Depp who had visited her on the night she claimed Depp had hit her. So there is no reason to assume he is an abuser.
I mean nothing I said 'made excuses for her'. The belief that abuse doesn't in turn justify abuse also applies to her yano. Nobody on this site is interested in making excuses for her (which is a good thing), but there are plenty of people willing to completely take Depp at face value - presumably because they are fans of his and so don't need an excuse to jump at his defense . The only people making excuses here are making excuses for him.
Likewise I'm not denying that she seems abusive - I mean I literally said that I think she's abusive
Ah yes, unless you only call out abuse from one person, you are in fact a both sides fence sitter. Good analogy.
This is just a classic defence of powerful people who get accused. 'But, but, but...they were so nice to me, they can't be abusive to anyone else surely'
Honestly there are some really weird MRA takes when it comes to Depp on this forum and a lot of it seems to be that as soon as there was evidence of Heard being abusive, people couldn't wait to immediately pronounce Depp innocent and get back to watching Edward Scissorhands or whatever without feeling any guilt + blatant misogyny.
The judgement in The Sun case was not about his guilt. It was about if The Sun could make the allegation.It's not proven. On the balance of probabilities he was found to be guilty in 12 accusations. I'm sure plenty in this thread will (or already have) disagree with the judgement or cry corrupt or whatever, but by any definition it's not proven.
The defence that the Sun made was that the allegations were 'true' (not that they were like fair comment or something like that) and the judge found that, on the balance of probability, they were true in 12 cases.The judgement in The Sun case was not about his guilt. It was about if The Sun could make the allegation.
All the ones where there is audio evidence of the alleged victim gaslighting the alleged abuser about the alleged abuse.As a side note, how many other repeated accusations of abuse, especially ones in which a judge literally rules are likely true, would Era hand wave away like this?
The defence that the Sun made was that the allegations were 'true' (not that they were like fair comment or something like that) and the judge found that, on the balance of probability, they were true in 12 cases.
As a side note, how many other repeated accusations of abuse, especially ones in which a judge literally rules are likely true, would Era hand wave away like this?
Ah, and now we're MRA because we support a man, who was clearly abused in this case. Nah, I'm done with you.
I've been loving The Stand reboot, but it feels gross every time she's on screen.
Maybe because there was an actual domestic violence lawsuit in the US 4 years ago and her case was so bad it was dismissed with prejudice.
I just looked this up to check and I'm pretty sure what you're referring to is her dismissing her own divorce lawsuit (which included accusations of domestic abuse) with prejudice (most lawsuits get dismissed with prejudice btw), because she settled out of court with Depp, which is just not the same thing at all...
Seems a pretty bad faith way of undermining a court judgment, by making up other court judgements that didn't happen.
I mean the police don't follow up on domestic abuse cases all the time... why are you putting faith in them lol.She threatened Johnny (on tape) about how her case was so strong she would win in a landslide. After the police did not corroborate any of her claims and interviewed both of them, she reached an agreement with Depp and dropped all charges + dismissed her own suit with prejudice.
Is the police lying too or .. ?
Point out one example of me defending Amber Heard? You can't cos I'm not. All I'm saying is that her being abusive doesn't automatically make him innocent or dismiss the accusations against him - if you would like to disagree with that obviously reasonable sentiment go ahead.Deflecting to defend a piece of shit human being. Oh this is not going to go well for you.
Point out one example of me defending Amber Heard? You can't cos I'm not. All I'm saying is that her being abusive doesn't automatically make him innocent or dismiss the accusations against him - if you would like to disagree with that obviously reasonable sentiment go ahead.