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Amber Guyger found guilty of murder at trial in fatal shooting of neighbor Botham Jean [Sentence 10 years]
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ok, eligible for parole after half the sentence is served. i stand corrected. sentence should have been longer though. who knows what the jury was thinking.
my only guess is why they wanted the felony charge to prevent her from ever becoming a cop or owning a gun, but wanted the lesser sentence a manslaughter charge would have carried.
Fucking ridiculous. Gives white folks exactly what they want. I'm deeply sorry for him but what I'm the fuck???
It's amazing how people can be so vindictive. He lost his brother and still forgave him. It's absurd to you but that's exactly what the world needs. Like the saying goes, holding in hate is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die. You show someone like that love not hate. Leave punishment to the justice system. Which in of itself is a justifiable reason to be upset.
not gonna lie, a small part of me thought he was using the hug opening to punch the shit out of her, i wouldnt even have been mad.
yep, this programming has been set in for a long time now. i would to say im surprised but i cant anymore.
its one thing to talk about redemption and forgiveness after time has been served/actual proof the person has changed and looking to be redeemed. folks dont even understand that doing shit like this right after getting an easy sentence for killing your brother just gives the green light for other violations because they can easily get off with it.
smh, another day in the US
yep, this programming has been set in for a long time now. i would to say im surprised but i cant anymore.
its one thing to talk about redemption and forgiveness after time has been served/actual proof the person has changed and looking to be redeemed. folks dont even understand that doing shit like this right after getting an easy sentence for killing your brother just gives the green light for other violations because they can easily get off with it.
smh, another day in the US
It's not ideal or what I would want or would have voted for if I was on that jury.
Given where this all started and the state of police hero worship in this country this feels like pretty damn close to a best case scenario.
She was found guilty of murder. She's going to jail for ten years, and the jury opted to double the minimum sentence. Maybe my standards are too low but this feels like something of a win compared to what I thought would happen when this all started.
No we really don't need anyone forgiving these fucking pigs for their crimes. There is too much colored blood spilled by these people. Fuck that.
I think that they weren't thinking at all, as is, sickeningly, the case any time black and brown bodies are unjustly murdered in cold blood.
Personally, I don't find anything "bigger" about letting someone off easy for murdering a member of your own family.
The white supremacist criminal justice system, and its enforcers are not to fucking be forgiven, and we can't fucking love our way out of being made victims of it. This take is fucking trash.
We got to give out less hate with boots continue to be on our necks
if someone intentionally murders me i want them out on the rocks like prometheus
i mean, unless i deserve it
i mean, unless i deserve it
Theres your problem. Calm acceptance. Its the same everywhere really."Ofcoarse the police are gonna harrass us but what you gonna do", "Ofcoarse were treated like shit but what you gonna do".
Eventually our expectations become our worst enemies. Why arent we treated like equals? Why can they kill us with impunity?Why do they get such a low sentence for murder while someone with weed gets 25 years?"
Dont just lie down and take it, get angry!! I wonder to myself, that could have been my cousin who had been senselessly killed there, and because he's an immigrant , there probably would be no justice.
And the other shoe drops. What a fucking joke of a sentence. And here I thought justice is finally being served but nope, not in America.
People can't be bothered to tell their racist family members to shut the hell up because it'll ruin the holidays but we constantly have to forgive murders and terrorist attacks that are racist in origin.
Using this case to finger wag at black people is a fucking joke.
Good idea, at the least don't hug them after they win the court case. In the chance they are sentenced still don't. Hug each other instead. Forgive them in your mind and heart later if you must.
Considering the bloody history of the justice system and its enforcers when it comes to black people you can keep that pathetic 'love not hate' shit to yourself. Love doesn't stop a fucking bullet, dude.
All of this. While it certainly was a profound gesture, it's actually disgusting in context considering what happened to his brother. Some actions are irredeemable, and what she did is one of them. Can't really hold people accountable if you pumping religious nonsense into their brains about forgiveness for them to feel better about a fucking murder. The sad part is that in that same jurisdiction, I bet there are people rotting in jail for x2 to x3 the jail time for non violent drug offenses.
Also, it was REALLY hard to watch the clip of the judge pacify Amber Guyger right after handing down a slap on the wrist sentence. To me, it was a clip of watching a black person in authority affirming white supremacy using a tried and true tool (Christianity). Super frustrated at seeing this kind of stuff in our community in 2019.
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Stand at the fringes of society outside the comforts of western civilization and watch how "forgive and forget" is turned into a leash to encourage people to stay silent.Forgive them,turn the other cheek, dont get angry , anger helps noone, dont question them, god will provide, god will punish them.Same story, different places and yet its that anger which drives people to seek change.
I respect what he did, it took courage and its something to aspire to but what he did he did for himself and his brother is another name on a list of people who shouldnt have died.
Nobody's against the concepts of forgiveness or kindness, of course the "world could use more of that" or whatever meaningless platitude you want to trot out. It's the way those values are twisted and used against poc to keep them from fighting back. Civil rights weren't born out of love and one side just coming to terms and then spreading "kindness" - it was from the literal blood of brown people fighting to demolish part of a racist system.
Not only that, they refuse to call their friends out and distance themselves from uncomfortable realities and conversations because of their privilege.
And then they continue to have the nerve to refer to themselves as allies. Just lol.
If he got up on that stand and said "Amber, I forgive you," and left it that that, I'm sure most people would have said "He's a better man than me" and kept it moving.
He didn't just do that. He told her he loved her and literally consoled her with a hug, as if she was the one being victimized. That's not just forgiveness. That's acquiescing to racial injustice and abuse.
It's what people of color are asked to do at any event of prejudice, from microaggressions to murders. The brother can feel however he wants, but you can't possibly expect people, especially PoC, to see those hugs and not find them upsetting.
But that's the thing. The jury was composed of 8 women, 4 men. Apparently, it was very diverse, too. So in the end, that doesn't matter?
Maybe they were drunk on forgiveness, too.
Why would you get banned for stating the truth? It's one anybody who is being honest with themselves would readily agree with.
I brought this up before, do you think the fact that the jury was primarily women made them more sympathetic to Guyger in the sentencing phase for that reason?