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Rory

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Oct 25, 2017
3,159
Those with health issues get paid? If so full? If yes, then i dont get the problem.
 

yogurt

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Oct 25, 2017
6,781
This is trash. We cancelled our Prime subscription a few months ago, and we were going strong with not using Amazon at all...until the pandemic hit. Now there have been a few times when Amazon is the only place we can find that carries something and have had to resort to ordering from them. Blech.
 

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Feb 19, 2020
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Everyone, if you have masks and are able to go to physical store to get supplies or groceries, please do so, it'll make workers' lives easier. It's hell working there right now with all the dumb dumbs ordering things online that they could easily buy in a store, and Amazon not having enough people to meet the demand.
See thats fine and all only until your one of the people who have asthma like myself who cant risk going out or immuno compromised folks.
 

meowdi gras

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Feb 24, 2018
12,605
I'm in complete disbelief that people still use this dogshit company given everything we know about their business practices and how they treat their employees.
Amazon could impose rules 10 times more evil than this and most people still wouldn't boycott them. They've enslaved themselves too thoroughly to the concept of convenience at any cost.
 

Kino

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Oct 25, 2017
3,316
You'd think Trump would stories like these in his petty vendetta against Bezos instead of going after the USPS, but then I guess that wouldnt play into the GOPs desire to privatize mail.
 

Rory

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Oct 25, 2017
3,159
No they got rid of unlimited unpaid time off and now you need a Heath condition to get that.
So, if you have a health condition, you can stay at home and get paid?

if you dont have one, you cant stay at home and get paid and most likely get fired?

OR

If you have a health condition you can get unpaid days off and stay at home without getting paid

if you have no health issue you cant stay home at all you get fired.

edit: got it. Not paid. Ok that sucks but its good that workers who are healthy gotta work.

Does high age (50+) count as health issue? Do you need doctors note?

did they get rid of all sick leave days, or only corona related?
 
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just_myles

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Oct 25, 2017
6,449
As a current amazon warehouse employee, this totally fucking sucks. Seriously no idea why Amazon is so damn evil in doing this, when there's literally an ongoing pandemic that isn't stopping any time soon.

The main reason I was using the unlimited UPT policy is cause I have a high risk family member and my building had 4 confirmed cases already. Now that I am forced to go back in or hope my leave of absence is approved is just some cruel bullshit.

I hope they turn it back but who the fuck knows at this point. My coworkers are all worried that they're being forced to come back when they or their loved ones have underlying conditions.

Sorry for the rant.



Edit - someone made this on Reddit and it's absolutely perfect to what Amazon is doing.

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Nah you good. Don't be sorry. I used to work for one of their warehouses back in the day as a temp( lowest of the low) and I understand how cut throat they can be. They worked us so hard that We didn't know up from down. I can't even imagine how hard it is now. Stay safe.
 

Seirith

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Oct 25, 2017
3,306
I don't understand why everyone is so mad at Amazon for doing this when other companies have the same policy. If everyone from every "essential" company with decided that they did not want to work because they or someone they love might get sick no one would work and if no one worked who would staff grocery stores, hospitals, water treatment plants, power plants, etc? Yes, it sucks that some people cannot work from home and have to go out and work during this but if they didn't everything would shut down because people would opt to stay home. Where will you get food if all stores close? What will you do when your toilet stops flushing and your power goes off?

I don't know any company allowing employees to just not work because they don't want to work right now. My husband's company is requiring people to work even though he would rather be home with me because I am immune compromise but if he and everyone else quit/temp stopped working who would take care of the people in his group homes who cannot care for themselves?
 
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Izzard

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Sep 21, 2018
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I don't understand why everyone is so mad at Amazon for doing this when this is the policy for every other company. If everyone from every "essential" company with a medical issue/elderly member or friend decided that they did not want to work because they or someone they love might get sick no one would work and if no one worked who would staff grocery stores, hospitals, water treatment plants, power plants, etc. Yes, it sucks that some people cannot work from home and have to go out and work during this but if they didn't everything would shut down because people would opt to stay home.

I don't know any company allowing employees to just not work because they don't want to work right now. My husband's company is requiring people to work even though he would rather be home with me because I am immune compromise but if he and everyone else quit/temp stopped working who would take care of the people in his group homes who cannot care for themselves?

My company is paying people who want to stay off. They furlough them and claim from the government.

It's not like Amazon can't afford to pay people either. I'd rather they lose out on a few extra millions than treat their staff like shit.

I know what you're saying, but in this case the company can easily afford to treat people decently.
 

Seirith

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Oct 25, 2017
3,306
My company is paying people who want to stay off. They furlough them and claim from the government.

It's not like Amazon can't afford to pay people either. I'd rather they lose out on a few extra millions than treat their staff like shit.

I know what you're saying, but in this case the company can easily afford to treat people decently.

Is your company considered essential?
 

orlock

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Oct 28, 2017
1,286
I don't understand why everyone is so mad at Amazon for doing this when other companies have the same policy. If everyone from every "essential" company with decided that they did not want to work because they or someone they love might get sick no one would work and if no one worked who would staff grocery stores, hospitals, water treatment plants, power plants, etc? Yes, it sucks that some people cannot work from home and have to go out and work during this but if they didn't everything would shut down because people would opt to stay home. Where will you get food if all stores close? What will you do when your toilet stops flushing and your power goes off?

I don't know any company allowing employees to just not work because they don't want to work right now. My husband's company is requiring people to work even though he would rather be home with me because I am immune compromise but if he and everyone else quit/temp stopped working who would take care of the people in his group homes who cannot care for themselves?


the grocery store im part-timing at is allowing you stay home from work if you want to self-isolate, no questions asked. we actually just had a dude take three weeks off (hes still off - might continue to remain home) simply because he didnt trust the working conditions in our store requiring him to operate within 6 feet of other employees in his tasks. similarly, they have a policy in place that requires a brief health screening questionnaire at the start of every shift and if you have any symptoms youre sent home until you dont have them anymore.
 

Baccus

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Dec 4, 2018
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I don't understand why everyone is so mad at Amazon for doing this when other companies have the same policy
Because in every other civilized country, when you get sick, you keep your job and don't go to work until you're cured. You'd hope the world's richest company wouldn't have a problem to match with global standards. But I guess it's too much to ask in the America you created.
 

Weeats

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Jun 17, 2019
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I don't understand why everyone is so mad at Amazon for doing this when other companies have the same policy. If everyone from every "essential" company with decided that they did not want to work because they or someone they love might get sick no one would work and if no one worked who would staff grocery stores, hospitals, water treatment plants, power plants, etc? Yes, it sucks that some people cannot work from home and have to go out and work during this but if they didn't everything would shut down because people would opt to stay home. Where will you get food if all stores close? What will you do when your toilet stops flushing and your power goes off?

I don't know any company allowing employees to just not work because they don't want to work right now. My husband's company is requiring people to work even though he would rather be home with me because I am immune compromise but if he and everyone else quit/temp stopped working who would take care of the people in his group homes who cannot care for themselves?

Fuck off. Just because your husband has a shit job, doesn't mean you should condemn everyone to that fate.

I don't know, instead of chiding everyone here for not sucking Bezo's dick, maybe focus on finding a better job for your husband?
 

Seirith

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Oct 25, 2017
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Fuck off. Just because your husband has a shit job, doesn't mean you should condemn everyone to that fate.

I don't know, instead of chiding everyone here for not sucking Bezo's dick, maybe focus on finding a better job for your husband?

My husband loves his job and his company, you know nothing about his job or company. They take care of people that cannot take care of themselves, if everyone decided they didn't want to work right now, who would take care of the people that literally cannot take care of themselves?
 

Aerial51

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Apr 24, 2020
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God, fuck Amazon. Fuck Bezos. Can't believe that one of the biggest Companies on Earth doesn't pay any Taxes and also does Shit like this.
Well actually i can believe it
They are comically evil at this point
 

Eeyore

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Dec 13, 2019
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My husband loves his job and his company, you know nothing about his job or company. They take care of people that cannot take care of themselves, if everyone decided they didn't want to work right now, who would take care of the people that literally cannot take care of themselves?

Sorry is this thread about health care workers or the biggest online retailer in the world that has more money than most countries?
 
Oct 27, 2017
12,238
I've been avoiding buying from Amazon for almost a year now. I'm at a loss of why people think this shit is acceptable when the CEO is literally the richest man on Earth.
 

Baked Pigeon

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't have prime, and have not ordered off Amazon this year. I will continue to do my very small part by not supporting them. We can all sit hear and complain, but we also need to speak with our actions.
 

Tapiozona

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Oct 28, 2017
2,253
So not sure what to think about this. I applaud amazon for the cross the board raises for hourly workers as well as double overtime pay (not sure if that's outside the US) but it's hard to tell the impact of this anmouncent regarding unpaid leave. From the prospective of the employer, it makes sense to require employees to formally request unpaid time off. Amazon is an essential service right now almost more than any other retailer on the planet and they do have to keep the business running. Being able to track those employees who aren't working so they are able to manage labor and hours, and hire backfill makes sense. I wonder what happens when things return to normal and they have a glut of employees. Do those employees who may be senior, but didn't work get fired or are the newer and possibly temp workers the ones let go. (or the world is forever changed and amazon will just keep their growing market share). Their announcement also says..

"In addition, we are providing flexibility with leave of absence options, including expanding the policy to cover COVID-19 circumstances, such as high-risk individuals or school closures"

So it sounds like anyone requesting specifically because of covid is able to do so.

Not jumping to conclusions as they've been dicks in the past like most companies but the article seems a bit slanted or at least light on the actual details. Wish I had Bloomberg access to read more about it.
 
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chefbags

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Oct 25, 2017
9,257
So an update on that I guess regarding my situation specifically.

Tried to put another LOA request specifically because of COVID because my mom is high risk and currently on chemo and there's confirmed cases in my building

Well since I had an LOA early in the year from January to March because my mom had surgery to take out the lymph nodes and help her recover, I am now denied due to running out of LOA hours.

I guess even with the COVID situation they can't make an exception.

Person I was talking to on the phone said since you can't come in you can use your remaining hours lol and if you run out then I guess you'll be filed for termination.

Amazon is literal shit. Don't know what else to do now besides get fired I guess.
 

chefbags

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Oct 25, 2017
9,257
Why is this not a human rights violation?

Beats me. I hope the May strike this Friday boosts the huge fucking problems this company is about to enforce.

Literally forcing people who are staying home because they're at risk or have high risk family to come in and work. And those got an loa can only have the luxury of 12 weeks when this virus is likely to be here for at least a year or more.

The fact that we're not even being paid and they still take it away is such an insult.
 

Nothing Loud

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Oct 25, 2017
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The COVID-19 outbreak is nowhere near over but Amazon don't care. They're going to take paid leave off the table for any workers feeling sick or in fear of becoming sick. Seriously consider cancelling your Prime subscriptions y'all.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/24/...se-workers-covid-19-coronavirus-policy-change





And the extra $2 an hour per factory worker the company is making such a huge fuss about only goes until May 16th.

Did a search but didn't find a topic. Donate my blood, sweat, and tears to a second of Jeff Bezos' time if old.

this is why Seattle is brewing a Tax Amazon initiative for COVID-19. Let's see if it passes because the liberals of Seattle love their socialism but the corporate democrats of Seattle love making Amazon and Microsoft happier first
 

Batarang

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Dec 11, 2019
15
Our facility just hired hundreds of new employees to make up for all the people not showing up. Its going to be packed when everyone is forced to come back