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Amazon FR lists Horizon Zero Dawn for PC, published by Sony
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This isn't a valid strategy to make money and the fact that it gets parroted on here is incredibly weird.
The number of people who would do this is less than the number of people who'd leave the PS ecosystem because Sony starts releasing games on PC.
Three years is a long time to wait!
I think it's weird to criticize someone else's speculation around strategy while speculating yourself.
Bingo. If Sony is going to put Horizon on PC then it's only a matter of time for Horizon 2 as well. It may not be for a long time but I can wait. I bought a PS4 Pro purely for Horizon earlier this gen, but I had no reason to believe it would ever come to PC since no Sony exclusive ever has. I'm envious of the people who will get to experience Horizon for the first time on PC and I won't deny myself that with Horizon 2 since it will more than likely come to PC at some point.
If porting their games to PC hurts their platform more than it helps, then the future of this strategy will remain under a question mark.
I don't know. I don't think real Sony fans would wait 3 years without playing the exclusives just to play them on PC.
I guess the calculus might be that
Number of people who will be tempted to Horizon 2 on PS5 as a result of this > Number of people who will wait it out for Horizon 2 on PC
Or at least, this might be the hypothesis they want to test with this. If that didn't work out they probably would stop pursuing that strategy. That is, if the idea is to use this as, basically, an advertising vehicle for PS5 games to PC gamers rather than for the business that can be done in the PC space in its own right.
Bingo. That's if they're not interested in the PC business for its own sake. If it's a promo opportunity for PS to a cohort of relatively high spending players in the PC space, they obviously won't keep it going if it backfires or doesn't produce the results they want.
I'm criticizing their speculation because it doesn't make financial sense.
What do "real" Sony fans have to do with what I said?
The older you get the less pacience you have, they will have more peopel buy ps5 to play the sequel that the ones waiting for a pc release.
Or you know they want another revenue stream that is the PC. Releasing PS4 catalog 1st party games on PC...Its naive to think that sony won't ever dip into it when MS and all other companies are doing it except for nintendo...Sony at the end of the day only care about making a profit.
Not me who creates the hope haha I was just questioning the people who suggested that in the first place
You're doing the same thing you're criticizing the other person for doing: speculating based on no information but your own butt. Unless you have information you haven't shared that makes it more informed?
As I said, if they want to be in the PC business for its own sake, it's a different matter indeed. Not sure it's clear yet, but going by the strategy they adopted in other publishing ventures on non-PS platforms, it was usually about building bridges back to the PS ecosystem (and usually didn't work out, it has to be said... but this would be the first time they used full-fledged PS games in that effort).
I see it in 2 ways of approach, either they hope that it will pull more PC players to buying Horizon 2 and a PS5 when it comes out, or the other option is making a PC storefront and making PC a extension of their own platform. So either get a spike of PS5 sales, or offset those sales by people using your launcher, with the potential of expanding that store to a full fledged PC store with almost all PSN games on PC with their own trophy support, cross buy etc and keep high margins that way.
I believe the goal is a new revenue stream by selling to a new audience. If people are now interested in PlayStation because of it, that's a bonus. I believe all of that would outweigh the comparatively few people who decide to stop buying PlayStation consoles because they can now play Sony games on PC.
That depends on what their aim is. They might just want a piece of the PC install base rather than just a marketing attempt for PS5/Horizon 2. They're in the business of making money and putting their games on PC does just that considering how much bigger PC gaming has gotten.
Well with all that said i really do think that they're gonna get their own launcher/PC store out later on while hopefully keep releasing games on steam because thats where majority of the PC crowd is which buys these AAA paid games.
it released literally at the worst time. Everyone was on holiday, and when we came back, no one gave a shit.
I feel bad, becaue it is QUALITY. I just cannot make a random video out of the blue on it though... not sure how and if we can cover it atm.
The argument is seemingly "why would they waste money giving a cut to someone else", then tell me what is wrong when I say that them doing their own launcher would come with the caveat of :
- having no existing consumer base on it
- either a barebone platform, or a big investment ( both in time and money ) so it's not subpar
All that for a platform only seemingly used for late ports.
When in comparison a platform like Epic to try to make coming to their own new platform worth it, need to both offer a better cut, finance exclusive, and give free games to try to get a bigger consumer base, had already an existing player base with one of the biggest game ever on their platform, and still has a barebone platform after a year of working on it.
They wouldn't even have Quantics games, Death stranding, flower and Journey as exlusives for their platform on PC to help kickstart it because ... reasons ?
So.. is the reason they should make their own platform on PC because it makes sense, or because you don't like launcher """loyalty""" ?
The thing is I dont see them just looking at releasing their games on Steam and EGS for making new revenue source (rather than hoping to sell PC players on the PS5) because they lose sales of their own platform (consumers who previously bought a PS4 with an exclusive, and later paid for PS+, third party game sales, smaller cut from software on third party launchers etc. ), if the plan is to create a new revenue stream, then they should look into creating their own launcher and sell all the third party titles that are on PSN there too.
Yeah, there is more than one option I guess. On the other end of the scale, if it turns out to be massively successful in engaging PC players but without much cross-traffic to PS5 or whatever, then they're left with a question of how to move forward with the PC business... and big success could encourage a storefront/ecosystem attempt. But there's a lot of mileage between here and there, I suppose we will see how this one goes.
Because I never said they'd exclusively release their games on their own launcher.
Ofcourse they intend to create their own launcher. For a big company like sony it seems like a no brainer but at the same time, its pivotal that they keep the good will and the audience in mind. 1+1=2 here. Keep releasing games on steam and soon after create your own launcher, polish it and add incentives to the PC customers to buy their than steam instead of making it exclusive. If they go straight to the exclusive launcher route then they will fail if they expect to sell 1M+-3m+ from the PS4 catalog.
good thing Sony has a policy that allows you to play playstation games on the PC at zero extra cost!
How far they go on this port will be a tell on their future PC plans imo. If it's just a bare bones port then I wouldn't get excited for more and it probably only exists due to Death Stranding coming to PC.
If they go all out then it shows Sony really care about the PC platform.
I'm gonna buy the hell out of this on Steam, A: because its a great game and B: becuase I want to show Sony that PC ports of their games are worth the time.
Bloodborne at 60fps I can taste iiiiit
I think there is more to it than that. In my mind I think that Sony still wants to position the PS consoles as the "best place to play", so with that in mind, would they enforce graphical setting parity (beyond resolution and framerate)? Will they offer features that the PS4/5 versions does not/ will not have like mod support?
Make one when/if it comes out on Steam? That'd be as good a time as possible I think. I know I was mightily impressed with it on PS4 and I'm planning on getting it when it's on Steam, ready to be blown away.
I'd love a video on it anytime though!
Heavy Rain, Detroit and Beyond Two Souls are getting a physical release here too:
Beyond Two Souls
Dai creatori del premiato Heavy Rain arriva un nuovo thriller psicologico interattivo con protagoniste le star di Hollywood Ellen Page e Wil
People celebrating buying a game twice is a take
game will look amazing if my base PS4 was anything to go by
game will look amazing if my base PS4 was anything to go by
the only reason it took that long in this instance is because they were building the Decima engine on the PC for Death Stranding.
Expect Guerilla Games to have a quicker turn around going forward.
God of War took, what, exactly 1.5 years to hit the PC via PSNow? I'd expect that to be more the rule for getting access to Sony published games outside of PlayStation hardware.
It will be hard to tell without having the PS5 version to compare it to of course but I'm expecting a straight resolution / framerate improvement for PC with maybe a patch later if they go further on PS5.
I think it'll be per-pixel what you get on PS4, but with higher resolution/framerate/filtering options. Asset changes or significant new shader options, for example, wouldn't be impossible, but I would expect they'll keep their powder dry on that side for Horizon 2.
It'll be gorgeous anyway.
If it hurts PS5 sales or PS5 sales of their games, this is end of the PC port. This is a business. But I don't think it will be the case. They want to have new players. And I don't think PC players will buy PS5 when Hotizon 2 release, they will wait.
Yep, I am still using my base PS4 and I started a replay not long ago, the game still stuns me in how good it looks.
I doubt it, it's one of the most sucessfull franchise on the PS4, and its director is now in charge of the global PS publishing.
What could explain this early Amazon entry is some coronavirus'ed delay.
Considering they flirted with console exclusives since the start of the PS4 generation, i bet they have the data to support themselves to at least port the PS4 catalog to PC without hurting the PS5 sales IMO.
