Think about how rare that is though compared to how many people hike every day.
I'm also just not a fan of being in the woods lol
Think about how rare that is though compared to how many people hike every day.
Boy do you have to reach extremely hard to turn that into a "dur millenials" post.What a stupid take. Clearly, it is because this lady fucked up. When did common sense become some dumb, millennial crutch?
There are hiking trails in open areas.
That's even worse š«The absolute absurdity of her story aside, her rescuers, father and friends were directly quoted as saying that outside of of scrapes and sun burn she was completely uninjured and walking around. That's vastly different than a broken leg.
Maybe she just sprained her ankle and assumed it was broken.The absolute absurdity of her story aside, her rescuers, father and friends were directly quoted as saying that outside of of scrapes and sun burn she was completely uninjured and walking around. That's vastly different than a broken leg.
Eller however does have other injuries, which included severe burns in her lower extremities, a fractured tibia, and a skin infection, doctors said.
That's crazy. That's on the road to Hana.
This story seems suspicious. The degradation of her clothing and leaving her cell phone behind raises some red flags.
Glad she's okay, though.
Helicopter rides are expensive in Hawaii. I think the wife and I paid $600 to do it in kauai. Hmm... You might be on to something.
It's a 3 mile hike. At some point I gotta wonder if any of the cynics here even go outside or stepped into a forest. There are hiking trails all over Vancouver and folks aren't bringing compasses, GPS watches, maps, etc. Like, who the fuck brings a map and compass for a 3 mile hike? That's some useless baggae. Plus, who the fuck owns a compass and map?She's not a victim. She just barely failed to qualify for a darwin award.
She went off the trail on purpose.
She got lost and didn't even try to backtrack.
She didn't bring a compass. Or phone. Or map. Or water. Just her gut. Which is a terrible navigation tool. Obviously she didn't know how to use the sun for guidance either.
It's a 3 mile hike. At some point I gotta wonder if any of the cynics here even go outside or stepped into a forest. There are hiking trails all over Vancouver and folks aren't bringing compasses, GPS watches, maps, etc. Like, who the fuck brings a map and compass for a 3 mile hike? That's some useless baggae. Plus, who the fuck owns a compass and map?
People get turned around in the woods and make dumb choices. Everyone does it even experienced people. To sit back and say, "WELL, JUST DO THIS OR DON'T DO THAT" in hindsight is easy. All it shows is either y'all are perfect human beings at basically anything or you don't do anything.Folks arent going by themselves with nothing. Or if they are, they shouldn't. And if they do, they shouldnt leave the trail to....nap? And then refuse to turn back because of your gut and stubbed toes and falling tree branches.
It's a 3 mile hike. At some point I gotta wonder if any of the cynics here even go outside or stepped into a forest. There are hiking trails all over Vancouver and folks aren't bringing compasses, GPS watches, maps, etc. Like, who the fuck brings a map and compass for a 3 mile hike? That's some useless baggae. Plus, who the fuck owns a compass and map?
It's a bit unrealistic because 1) I doubt anyone's ability to use a compass properly, and 2) where are you going to get maps? You need the governing body to make them. You can't just give general maps of the area without any landmarks or trail routes. Not many people know how to read that in conjunction with a compass. Shit happens. People get lost all the time. A lot of folks get lost driving around because they don't even know how the street numbering system works.Hmmm. North Shore Rescue probably wishes people would bring those items.
It's a 3 mile hike. At some point I gotta wonder if any of the cynics here even go outside or stepped into a forest. There are hiking trails all over Vancouver and folks aren't bringing compasses, GPS watches, maps, etc. Like, who the fuck brings a map and compass for a 3 mile hike? That's some useless baggae. Plus, who the fuck owns a compass and map?
lol come on, experienced people don't go off trail unprepared or wandering in the opposite direction of where the trail is cause of gut. That's just stupidPeople get turned around in the woods and make dumb choices. Everyone does it even experienced people. To sit back and say, "WELL, JUST DO THIS OR DON'T DO THAT" in hindsight is easy. All it shows is either y'all are perfect human beings at basically anything or you don't do anything.
lol come on, experienced people don't go off trail unprepared or wandering in the opposite direction of where the trail is cause of gut. That's just stupid
People get turned around in the woods and make dumb choices. Everyone does it even experienced people. To sit back and say, "WELL, JUST DO THIS OR DON'T DO THAT" in hindsight is easy. All it shows is either y'all are perfect human beings at basically anything or you don't do anything.
A map and Compass barely weigh anything. I take that along with other essentials like water, and a first aid kit. I also take my camera, extra lens and tripod and only feel it's a burden on the last mile back to the trail head. She's yoga instructor so I assume she's more physically fit than I am.It's a 3 mile hike. At some point I gotta wonder if any of the cynics here even go outside or stepped into a forest. There are hiking trails all over Vancouver and folks aren't bringing compasses, GPS watches, maps, etc. Like, who the fuck brings a map and compass for a 3 mile hike? That's some useless baggae. Plus, who the fuck owns a compass and map?
But it sounds like when she got lost, she decided to trust her gut and keep going in the same direction. That's stupidity. I'm a shut-in and even I know that you're supposed to either retrace your steps or stay where you are. Hell I wandered off in the woods following my brother when I was like 6 or 7, getting separated from the babysitter, and that's what I didIt's a 3 mile hike. At some point I gotta wonder if any of the cynics here even go outside or stepped into a forest. There are hiking trails all over Vancouver and folks aren't bringing compasses, GPS watches, maps, etc. Like, who the fuck brings a map and compass for a 3 mile hike? That's some useless baggae. Plus, who the fuck owns a compass and map?
3 miles isn't really a big hike. It's a 20 min jog or less. Lotta folks can do that without water. Maybe she just said fuck it and didn't want to bring it 'cause a lot of times walking and carrying stuff for that short of time is kind of bothersome. I sometimes leave my phone in the car for a 10km hike in the mountains because I don't like the way it dangles and weighs down my shorts since I don't even get cell service there. And carrying water is hit or miss since it's 10km and I'm done in under 2 hours and not really exerting much since it's cool weather up there. Shit happens maybe she got dehydrated too fast because she underestimated what she got and that helped turn her around a bit and the panic of being lost didn't help either.I don't hike alone. When I do, I usually take 1 physical map, 2-3 offline apps for mobile, and 1 dedicated trekking gps unit. And even then, sometimes I kinda lose my way. Getting lost in the woods, even in places that aren't very remote, is easy. That part I agree. What I find odd, is how she got lost so fast, and so deeply into the forest, specially since she was not prepared for a big hike (not taking water??). I mean she said she hiked something like 12 hours straight the first day (well before the injuries), how can she do that in Maui, and not find anything? It's like she has negative orientation skills, but apparently extremely strong survival skills.
But her hike wasn't that long. She wasn't trekking 40km over the mountains or whatever. A lot of folks aren't going to load up to carry that for so little distance.A map and Compass barely weigh anything. I take that along with other essentials like water, and a first aid kit. I also take my camera, extra lens and tripod and only feel it's a burden on the last mile back to the trail head. She's yoga instructor so I assume she's more physically fit than I am.
You can't argue a point then say, "I'm a shut in and even I know that you're supposed". You lose all credibility. Plus, if you've ever been in dense forests you will know retracing your steps isn't as easy as Man Tracker makes it out to be.But it sounds like when she got lost, she decided to trust her gut and keep going in the same direction. That's stupidity. I'm a shut-in and even I know that you're supposed to either retrace your steps or stay where you are. Hell I wandered off in the woods following my brother when I was like 6 or 7, getting separated from the babysitter, and that's what I did
Very interesting, but what I got from all that was also her gut was completely wrong. Hopefully she learns and utilizes technical aides in the future.
No wonder there's so many accidents then. If you can't correctly identify cardinal directions by looking at the sun or the stars, bring a compass for anything that isn't your daily commute to work (and if you work at 20+ miles, then bring it too). You never know what's going to happen.I really don't think most people bring a compass for a three mile hike.
People get turned around in the woods and make dumb choices. Everyone does it even experienced people. To sit back and say, "WELL, JUST DO THIS OR DON'T DO THAT" in hindsight is easy. All it shows is either y'all are perfect human beings at basically anything or you don't do anything.
that situation is totally different from this case. Shit happens I understand, but what she did is absolutely stupid and go against every rule of hiking.
They got lost for 5 days. Shit just happens when you're lost. It happens. No need to pour salt in her wounds just because you feel you would be better at this than her.
They got lost for 5 days. Shit just happens when you're lost. It happens. No need to pour salt in her wounds just because you feel you would be better at this than her.
Whenever accidents happen, it's useful to identify their cause so we all can avoid them in the future. In her case, she made a lot of obvious mistakes, many that don't require hindsight to identify. I do agree with you and will generalize your position even further: we've all made stupid choices that would have gotten us killed or injured and many of us were lucky to escape consequence free. However, I don't think there's anything wrong with discussing those mistakes and learning from them.People get turned around in the woods and make dumb choices. Everyone does it even experienced people. To sit back and say, "WELL, JUST DO THIS OR DON'T DO THAT" in hindsight is easy. All it shows is either y'all are perfect human beings at basically anything or you don't do anything.
Yeah, actually no one is doing that if you read the thread. Nice try though.People in this thread are super quick to shit on this lady for surviving longer than most people in this thread would.
Mods should just lock this thread, no real conversation going on other than shitting on this woman for no reason other than salty assholes wanting to be emotionally outraged for no real reason
Who is outraged, or salty? She did something dumb, but she survived. Do people really think a guy who went hiking completely unprepared and then followed his gut into the most dangerous part of the park wouldn't be getting called dumb for the exact same reasons?
Women are allowed to be dumb, and to be called dumb after doing dumb things.
Nah Big Brother because she can't get lost in the house.