Gotta be honest, mine will be filled on day one. I'll probably buy the XSX cartridge at launch as well. I'm not gonna put up with multi-minute load times in any of my current games any longer than I have to.
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Am I the only one concerned about the lack of storage on next generation consoles?
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Gotta be honest, mine will be filled on day one. I'll probably buy the XSX cartridge at launch as well. I'm not gonna put up with multi-minute load times in any of my current games any longer than I have to.
Came in here to post this, but also wanted to mention that most current USB 3.0 portable drives are capped at around 500mbs transfer speed, even if they have USB-C. There are other drives that are full-on NVME speed SSD's that can transfer much higher rates over USB-C, but they're really expensive right now.
Hopefully by this time next year it's relatively inexpensive to get a 1 or 2 TB external USB-C drive that has super fast transfer rates so that the "cold storage" setup that a lot of folks want (myself included) won't break the bank.
Pretty much how I use my Xbox on X. Installed an SSD internally and I move games back and forth as my interest changes.
its a tradeoff I'm willing to make. Load speeds in some games sucks already. The cold storage option is what I'm planning to do initially.
How painful is it to shuffle those games around based on what you want to play? Usually how long does it take to move a game from the external drive to the internal SSD?
Also, just theoretically at the moment. Next-gen titles could become quite large, due to some pipeline alterations with Raytraced lighting. Not sure yet, but seems likely.
I hope the systems allow you to download and install games directly to the external drive. That way you don't have to maintain a large chunk of free space on the SSD for downloads. Instead, more of the available space can be used for games you are playing.
Edit: ...or at least let you choose where you want to download the game.
Edit: ...or at least let you choose where you want to download the game.
12 chips, each chip=64GB makes it 768GB/825GiB.
Updates on ps4 required ~2x the empty space of their, or the game's, size. This was because how freeBSD works. 100MB update for a 30GB game requires ~30GB free space, unless the devs designed it with chunks in mind. It sucks when you have a couple 100GB games on a 500GB drive because you pretty much need >100GB free space at all time for updates. I hope it changes with next gen but I doubt it will.
Don't buy an external NVME.
Get an internal NVME, buy a USB-C enclosure, you now have a fast drive.
Actually tthe opposite is more likely.
MS and Seagate can make their cards cheaper by eating the cost(MS) and from the fact they would have made a large order for the cards.
I expect the Series Cards to be ~100 dollars for 1TB.
An SSD that meets the PS5 requirement would easily be 200 dollars for 1TB, maybe even more if you are buying a Samsung drive.
Prices of high speed 4.0s arent going to drop anytime soon.
that's below market rate for that type of storage, that seems like wishful thinking.
A Xbox branded Seagate SSd is more than that right now,so I can't see a faster, smaller, newer unit being significantly cheaper.
Cerny's presentation specifically said this won't happen on PS5.
Woah, how the hell did I miss that? Thanks!Cerny's presentation specifically said this won't happen on PS5.
A good 1tb nvme drive is 130 euros. A worse one probably can be gotten for less especially when considering buying in bulk.How expensive were HDDs when the previous generation started? (About the same).
Games are getting bigger though, so that might be a problem going forward.
Talking about Series X, since those can be upgraded with a "normal" SSD.
Games are getting bigger though, so that might be a problem going forward.
Talking about Series X, since those can be upgraded with a "normal" SSD.
Would faster read/write speeds allow for quicker installation from physical media? Like, would Sony's I/O tech help with this at all or is it looking like it's solely for gameplay? I know we don't have numbers, but I haven't kept up with the tech break down and that's something I haven't seen discussed.
That kinda blasts the whole "But look at how much time youll save with this new speed" stuff in the face though.
"Super fast extra speedy loading times!"
Until you need to transfer 4 titles from cold slow storage over to the ssd and vice versa.
That parts gonna suck man. Until they get bigger drives at least. Not looking forward to that tbh.
Depends. Will the existence of a superfast drive (& powerful hardware) help with maybe lessen redundancy (from my understanding, there's a lot of repeated data/assets on HDDs to help with asset streaming) & maybe help with data compression, leading to at least relatively smaller intall sizes or installs staying roughly the same as now, or will game sizes continue to balloon? If they're getting bigger & bigger, it might become a bit of an issue. We don't have data gaps here in Finland. Infinite 100+Gbps connections are somewhat affordable & widely available (at least in cities), so downloading again isn't too much of an issue, though of course it'd be preferable to not have to do that too often.
My PC has 14.5TB of storage space total.
However, internal SSDs only account for 2.5TB of space. The rest is on USB external hard drives.
Nevertheless, I have all of the games I own that I'd ever want to play, installed somewhere.
I downloaded my games once. The ones I wanted to play immediately, I installed to my SSDs. The ones I might play later, I installed to my external drives.
When I want to play a game that I've installed to one of my external drives, I just move it onto my SSDs. The same thing I'll be doing on PS5.
Sure, it might be a bit of a pain for some users to juggle some of these giant games (LOOKING AT YOU CALL OF DUTY) on an 800-ish GB SSD, but you won't have to delete games left and right to make room for more if you just get yourself a nice-sized external drive, and use it as a backup.
However, internal SSDs only account for 2.5TB of space. The rest is on USB external hard drives.
Nevertheless, I have all of the games I own that I'd ever want to play, installed somewhere.
I downloaded my games once. The ones I wanted to play immediately, I installed to my SSDs. The ones I might play later, I installed to my external drives.
When I want to play a game that I've installed to one of my external drives, I just move it onto my SSDs. The same thing I'll be doing on PS5.
Sure, it might be a bit of a pain for some users to juggle some of these giant games (LOOKING AT YOU CALL OF DUTY) on an 800-ish GB SSD, but you won't have to delete games left and right to make room for more if you just get yourself a nice-sized external drive, and use it as a backup.
No you're not, OP.
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There's going to be a lot of problems and so much talk of cleaning the fridge.
How big of an issue do you think storage space will be on next-gen consoles?
So this is something I haven't really heard much talk about when it comes to the next-generation despite it perhaps being one of the most likely 'big issues' that this generation will bring. Personally I've come up with 5 potential issues that may come up 1) The adoption of top-of-the-line SSDs...
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There's going to be a lot of problems and so much talk of cleaning the fridge.
Yeah it's a problem, I am not someone at all interested in constantly deleting and re-downloading games depending on what I'm currently playing.
XSX has a slight space advantage out of the box and I'm guessing it's 1TB proprietary cards will be a little easier to find than the approved 3rd party Sony SSD'S but who knows.
XSX has a slight space advantage out of the box and I'm guessing it's 1TB proprietary cards will be a little easier to find than the approved 3rd party Sony SSD'S but who knows.
I really couldn't care less unless some game is actually too big for the PS5's SSD on its own, which is really not likely.
Won't even expand the SSD storage (unless there's a great deal on a fast compatible SSD 3 years in or something), will just make do with a 4 or 5TB archival drive to store games I'm not currently playing.
Won't even expand the SSD storage (unless there's a great deal on a fast compatible SSD 3 years in or something), will just make do with a 4 or 5TB archival drive to store games I'm not currently playing.
The highest theoretical Blu Ray read-speed is 72 MB/s
Any decent HDD will have an actual write speed north of 100 MB/s, and many are nearer 200 MB/s
The limiting factor is reading from the Blu Ray disk, not writing to the HDD / SSD
Games are getting bigger, and not everyone has great internet.
Install the latest CoD, the latest Ubisoft Open-World-a-thon, and Microsoft Flight Simulator and you've already used up your SSD.
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Several years of writing to it 24/7. The only time you write to it on console is when installing/updating games or using quick-resume.
I'm kinda looking at it as a positive. Less space for games to be installed, so more initiative to complete what is there, then uninstall. The problem will be those games that are now being treated as a platform with constant updates throughout the gen, such as Halo: Infinite, and I'm guessing the next Forza Motorsport. Hopefully, 343i and other devs use the feature from MCC, where you could choose to leave off the MP if you want.