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Alright so; The Skywalker Saga's conclusion was...not great. Where does the franchise go now, story wise?

Kalmakov

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The sequel trilogy was disappointing, like actually. Like, I walked out of all three feeling pretty good about them but ended up liking them less and less the more I thought about them and discussed them with my peers. TLJ is still my favorite of them, with it's themes of expectations, legends, the past etc. But still...the entire casino planet happened, Snoke was a nobody, and Finn went from being the actual most interesting character in TFA to being character assassinated so even what I think is the best film of the three still had major issues.

Even with all of these presented issues, I kinda feel relieved and hopeful for the future of Star Wars. The Skywalker story is over, meaning we can finally have the universe expanded past revolving around the most dysfunctional family in the universe. That's partially why I've been enjoying the Mandalorian so much, it doesn't rely on, for the lack of better way to phrase, constant moments of "I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW IT! I KNOW WHAT THAT IS!"

So where do we go from here? What stories could Star Wars tell now? What should be the next major storyline for the next main trilogy?

Can we get a Star Wars horror movie please?
 
Bor Gullet

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RoninZ

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Time jump 100s of years in the future. Make it Sith vs Jedi without any references to the Skywalker saga and they should be fine
 
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I think they need to go somewhere entirely new: a brand new time period, setting, story, characters, designs, status quo, etc.
 
Anton Sugar

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Literally fucking anywhere that doesn't involve the original trilogy and set of characters. Like, anything. Come up with something original or look to the ex-canon of the EU for (good and bad) ideas.
 
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I hope it has something to do with the taxation of trade routes to outlying star systems being in dispute.
 
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KOTOR, they've been slowly re-canonizing parts of it recently.

Good lord don't touch the ST lore at all costs, it's so messy and completely garbage. Mando, hopefully is as far as they go with that
 
MrMephistoX

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I don't think Star Wars works well with frequent film releases. Focus on animation and D+ shows and let anticipation build up.
 
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I honestly want to know the backstory about Sheev's son. That whole aspect of IX was confounding to me. Honestly make a movie about that guy. Who was his mother? Was he intended to be an heir to the SIth, but escaped from Sheev? How did a dude that was presumably incredibly strong in the force and predisposed to the dark side just turn out to be like, a regular dude?
 
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I would just do Kotor as two movies, and a revamped Kotor 2 as a second pair.

Maybe it'll be cringe worthy adapting a video game but whatever. The story seems safe enough for Star Wars fans, but I guess fresh enough for the more mainstream, being a prequel with a former sith lord as the protagonist. Get Helen Mirren as Kreia if you can.
 
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The light vs dark thematic had already been getting boring for a while . I think a vigilante force user(half sith/jedi) that hunts around the galaxy would be a cooler story .
 
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Something with 0 connection to the fiction as we know it.
 
Thorn

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I would just do Kotor as two movies, and a revamped Kotor 2 as a second pair.

Maybe it'll be cringe worthy adapting a video game but whatever. The story seems safe enough for Star Wars fans, but I guess fresh enough for the more mainstream, being a prequel with a former sith lord as the protagonist. Get Helen Mirren as Kreia if you can.
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I love KOTOR 2 but they're NEVER going to involve KOTOR 2.

Hell SWTOR made a ton of it Non-Canon.
 
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The current plot has KOTOR de-canonized, at least as it was. Right now the very first Sith emerged about 2,000 years ago, whereas in KOTOR the Sith were about 10,000 years old originally, the order of Naga Sadow and the founders on Korriban. Revan and Malak were the third group to claim the Sith name.

The best piece would be a trilogy isolated in the middle of the rein of the old Sith, so sometime between 2000 and 1000 years before the series, something to see what the height of the old darkness looked like when there was a Jedi order to fight them.

Going into the future after TROS would be a natural idea, but fraught with the risk of Yuuzhan-Vonging the whole thing. Or instead Fate of the Jedi-ing the whole thing and making history seem both cyclical and pointless, all the moreso after that was a criticism of the sequel trilogy.
 
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Don't agree with people saying no more force users at all. I still want Jedi and lightsabers. If the sith are truly gone that's fine but I still think some sort of evil force users are needed. Like the Night Sisters were really cool for example. The force and the people who wield it has always and will always be the most interesting thing in Starwars imo. We can however get far away from Skywalkers and Palpatines. That much I agree on.
 
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Thorn said:
I love KOTOR 2 but they're NEVER going to involve KOTOR 2.

Hell SWTOR made a ton of it Non-Canon.
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TOR isn't canon and they'd be best just to ignore it, tbh. KOTOR 2 is one of the best stories they could adapt.

But the whole "the Force is evil" movement with Kreia might not go well with some fans.
 
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TOR isn't canon and they'd be best just to ignore it, tbh. KOTOR 2 is one of the best stories they could adapt.

But the whole "the Force is evil" movement with Kreia might not go well with some fans.
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I mean its not like Kreia was proven right or anything. It was just her interpretation of the Force.
 
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Everyone has a different idea of what a good Star Wars should be (how much it should focus on Sith/Jedi, the Force in general, how black and white it should be with good versus evil themes, etc), so the first thing to accept is that approximately 50% of people that like Star Wars movies will not like whatever Star Wars movie gets conjured up. The only thing that people and fans seem to really expect as a whole is that mainline films should be trilogies. This is conditioned into Star Wars fans at this point.

JJ played it safe with TFA to have as much appeal as possible to the folks that covet the original trilogy. A retread like that isn't going to work again and satisfy most fans.

The best bet is for someone to just focus on writing a good, original story that includes Star Wars elements. A few planets have been destroyed now - it might be a good time to write a story about offworlder refugees from these destroyed planets and the challenges they overcome in looking for a new home. Maybe it would be interesting to write about sone Light Side force sensitives that take things too far in rebelling against the rise of technology that is resulting in planets exploding once a generation - something akin organized eco terrorists on a galactic scale who aren't entirely wrong that it's probably time to resort to extreme measures regarding planet destroyers becoming prevalent. Or maybe this is too much gray area for Star Wars and people will just want new generations of fascist white helmet troops every 30 in-universe years for the rest of Star Wars history.
 

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Timeskip sounds good.

What about a droid uprising? nobody respects them, they are all treated like property so maybe give them a leader: a force sensitive droid (proof that they are more than machines).

Or maybe something with mandalorians, I don't know.
 
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Thorn said:
I love KOTOR 2 but they're NEVER going to involve KOTOR 2.

Hell SWTOR made a ton of it Non-Canon.
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The most radical part of Kotor 2 was Kreia's anti force philosophy, and in the movies they did a dark side user Kylo Ren who wanted a new order and hate the old ways, so I think you can definitely do Kreia but give her a more concrete conclusion and make her goals more coherent, since it's an adaptation, whilst still keeping her fully dimensional. Kotor 2 has a lot famously cut so you could do some cool stuff with an adaptation.
 
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With as much money as Disney has put into Star Wars themed amusement parks and Star Wars themed products with stormtroopers, Wookies, lightsabers, and Jedi, I unfortunately don't think there's any way possible that we'll get any new stories or elements completely bereft of them. It just wouldn't be Star Wars then. That thought comforts me and disappoints me at the same time...
 
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1000 year time skip so we get something new. I'm sick of the Skywalkekrs and the Solos.
 
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ToddBonzalez said:
I honestly want to know the backstory about Sheev's son. That whole aspect of IX was confounding to me. Honestly make a movie about that guy. Who was his mother? Was he intended to be an heir to the SIth, but escaped from Sheev? How did a dude that was presumably incredibly strong in the force and predisposed to the dark side just turn out to be like, a regular dude?
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I bet he wasn't force sensitive at all.
 

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The New Republic, centuries later. Show us the difference between Rey's Jedi and the Jedi of old. Is the New Republic the only unified government, or are there several, vying for dominance? If it's unified, how is it different from the Old Republic and the previous New Republic? If there are more, what sets them apart? Perhaps there are certain governments that recognize droid rights due to their sapience. Perhaps some are human (or another species) supremacist, and openly so unlike the mere implications of the Empire. Maybe some are more communal (lbr Disney would never outright feature a flat out socialist or communist society), or some are more feudal or monarchal. There's a lot of potential, so long as there isn't one, definite good guy faction and the rest are all bad. There can be some good, some bad, with shades of grey, or all shades of grey with some bad (with some definitely more "bad" like the aformentioned human/species-supremacist galactic nation). And hey, are the Hutts still around?

Also, if there are any more planet destroyer weapons, they should be leveraged like nukes. Something no one wants to use again but acts like they will "if they have to".

Edit: Old Republic is fine too but I kinda just want them to recanonize KOTOR and KOTOR 2 and focus more on the "old" Republic like 150 years before TPM (old enough to remove all the players from the Skywalker saga except Yoda and MAYBE Chewie, but still close enough to be familiar, with hints of corruption already fomenting and keeping the general wordbuilding "feel" of the prequels without focusing on a Skywalker).
 
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Vidiot said:
Don't agree with people saying no more force users at all. I still want Jedi and lightsabers. If the sith are truly gone that's fine but I still think some sort of evil force users are needed. Like the Night Sisters were really cool for example. The force and the people who wield it has always and will always be the most interesting thing in Starwars imo. We can however get far away from Skywalkers and Palpatines. That much I agree on.
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I honestly still like cool force stuff but yeah it should be less sith vs jedi and more different force groups
 
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Lautar0 said:
Timeskip sounds good.

What about a droid uprising? nobody respects them, they are all treated like property so maybe give them a leader: a force sensitive droid (proof that they are more than machines).
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I genuinely do hope they go this route at some point; it's one of the franchise's biggest unexplored (well, at least in canon) questions, and there's some real narrative gold to be mined in its answer.
 

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KOTOR two-parter.

Ahsoka movie with Vader.

Rey movie resurrecting Ben. This could be Episode X in five years from now, or it's own solo thing. STAR WARS: The World Between Worlds.

Something set in the future with the disciples of the Jedi Order that Rey establishes.
 
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