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I'm sorry but you have to vote. I don't make the rules. I just make the rules.

  • Final Fantasy XIII

    Votes: 439 37.0%
  • Final Fantasy XV

    Votes: 746 63.0%

  • Total voters
    1,185

Quinton

Specialist at TheGamer / Reviewer at RPG Site
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
17,286
Midgar, With Love
You must select one or the other. If you feel like the only winning move is not to play, your only option is not to vote. Got it memorized?

I don't care if you hated both. If you played them, you're contractually obligated to tell the good people of esteemed internet website ResetEra which one you hated less. If you abhorred them equally, now you're being forced to alter your opinion, even if only slightly.

You're also strongly encouraged to go into at least a bit of detail as to why you liked the one you voted for more than the one you did not vote for. If you do not do this then we are nothing but a group of voters. A bloc. And if that is what we have been reduced to, my treasured friends, then why are we still here? Just to suffer?

There's this really hip little bar scene in Downtown Durham, North Carolina called Pour. You pour stuff yourself. You pour it into your glass.

Personally, I prefer FFXV. It's by no means perfect. It screws up several things I think are key to a successful story. The decision to go open world for a while and then switch to a more focused plot, while ample on paper, ends up awkward as heck because once you're done with the open world you're like 70% into the game but 30% into the plot. This results in the remaining 70% of the plot feeling almost as haphazard as the 30% of the plot which was attempted to be told during the first 30% of the game. Oh my fucking god, I have no idea if that makes sense.

But the world itself was cool. The villain was cool. The free patches made the game more... cool. Some of the DLCs also contributed to the overall coolness. The revised final dungeon? Cool. The finale in general? Oddly enough, cool. It stuck the landing... somehow. Noctis is cool. Ignis is cool. Prompto's cool. Gladio is nearly shirtless. Which, if you're into that, is cool.

I also really enjoy the various battle and event tracks. The kitschy road trip tracks don't do it for me but they're thematically appropriate. Sort of. The battle system has some obvious issues but I don't think it's as mindless as many have claimed. Either that or perhaps I am more mindless than I realized. Which, currently, as I sip what was poured at Pour, that is very likely true.

FFXIII, by contrast, has way better cutscene direction overall (one of XV's weakest spots; Tabata, why couldn't you have phoned Junpei or whatever that guy's name is, fuck, I can't remember, but he's amazing at cutscene direction. He didn't do XIII but he did XII. XIII was better at this but not as great as XII. It's funny and sad.) It also had more story, I guess...? But not really...? Like... I guess. But I also guess not because let's face it. It's bad.

Oh my god, I wrote like three paragraphs expanding on my rationale for why I feel like Final Fantasy XIII is bad but I like rubbed the side of my right hand over the northeast quadrant of my Chromebook and it's gone. Christ. There's a lot I don't like, OK. Vote.
 

Cipher Peon

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,826
XV is my favorite FF game!
XIII is my least favorite game of all time.

Easy pick!
 

touchfuzzy

Banned
Jul 27, 2019
1,706
Neither are great games, but at least XIII feels like a complete product with a cohesive vision, and a fantastic OST, so it gets my vote. XV is just a mess through and through.
 

Mesoian

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 28, 2017
26,548
15 is more sound, especially after all the DLC.

13 is a straight up mess.
 

Lord Vatek

Avenger
Jan 18, 2018
21,516
Poll says XIV so I said XIV.

But XIII felt like it actually had a plot so that automatically puts it over XV.
 

Komali

Member
Sep 25, 2018
476
FF13 - better story, better setting, better and more challenging battle system and the game is complete
FF15 - better soundtrack, better monster design, food looks delicious
 

SheriffMcDuck

Member
Oct 27, 2017
955
I dislike both to extreme degrees. But I was eternally more interested in XV than I was XIII at any point in time.
 

Deleted member 44122

Guest
never finished 13, got close to the end though. thought it was alright.
i really really liked 15 though (never played any of the dlc)
 

chrominance

Sky Van Gogh
Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,646
XIII. It's not a good game, but it didn't kill my hope for future games in the franchise like XV did.

There's nothing as terrible to play or experience as the Leviathan fight from XV in XIII, and that's despite me literally not knowing what the hell Death was in the final boss fight of XIII or how to avoid it until I looked it up online (it was my first Final Fantasy, be gentle). It is hands down the worst boss fight I've ever seen; to this day I still don't know how I beat it, nor could I explain a coherent strategy for advising others on how to beat it.

I disliked Snow and I disliked Hope immensely. Lightning was a weird cipher of a character and I didn't much like her either. But nothing in XIII (yeah, not even "moms are tough") made me as mad as the bullshit that happens after the Leviathan fight, where the game basically decides to have all the other characters shit on you for something that wasn't even your fucking fault and was out of your control.

XIII made me sad that a game I was really looking forward to turned out to be bad. XV made me ANGRY. Fuck XV.
 

Thrill_house

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,627
The only thing good about 13 was the soundtrack. 15 was bad and unfinished but was still better than 13 imo.
 

Kuro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
20,691
what the fuck is with era polls lately. You ask 13 or 15 in the title of the thread but then the poll has 14 instead of 15. I think polls should go through an approval process at this point.

I would pick 13 over 15 just because I liked the character designs and combat better. They're both bad games.
 

ggdeku

Member
Oct 26, 2017
758
13 has gameplay so it wins for me.

All joking aside, I absolutely hated the barely interactive, hold one button, unfinished mess that was XV. I played it at launch and have no desire to revist the royal edition or whatever.

At least 13 has a pretty cool battle system and role switching mechanic.
 
Oct 25, 2017
7,753
I enjoyed both, but giving my vote to XV (marked as "XIV" in the poll) for the story, beautiful world, great combat system, magnificent soundtrack and because the bros are amazing characters.

XV all the way. Restored my love for Final Fantasy.
 
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Quinton

Quinton

Specialist at TheGamer / Reviewer at RPG Site
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
17,286
Midgar, With Love
I've reported my thread in the hopes of a brilliant moderator taking pity and doing something magical to fix the poll options.

Neither are great games, but at least XIII feels like a complete product with a cohesive vision, and a fantastic OST, so it gets my vote. XV is just a mess through and through.
15 is more sound, especially after all the DLC.

13 is a straight up mess.

These two mess posts back-to-back. LOL.


I have it on the brain. I really need to actually reply to the posts I received in my recent FFXIV thread... when I'm sober.
 

Bit_Reactor

Banned
Apr 9, 2019
4,413
Neither. One was like watching paint dry and the other was like playing chess but they replaced all the pieces with monopoly money. I guess the monopoly money one was LESS terrible but it's a short race to the bottom.
 

Acquiesc3

Member
Oct 30, 2017
1,724
Fix poll please. I can't in good conscience vote 13 over 14 even if you meant 15 lol

Anyway, neither are great.. but 15's faults are notably worse than 13's. So 13 slightly comes out on top.
 

Cannon_Fodder

Member
Oct 27, 2017
510
I think the hate is a little over-the-top for both, but I honestly really like FFXV so that wins. The storytelling is straight up awful in most spots, but it still feels like a labour of love to me and I respect that.
 

Synohan

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,972
XV. It would be different if you included 13 and 13-2.
13-2 had a pretty enjoyable battle system imo.
 

Mesoian

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 28, 2017
26,548
I've reported my thread in the hopes of a brilliant moderator taking pity and doing something magical to fix the poll options.




These two mess posts back-to-back. LOL.
I mean, at the end of the day, they're still the two worst mainline final fantasy games.

But 15 is a breath of fresh air compared to 13. From top to bottom, 13 is just awful. The only thing noteworthy about it is the soundtrack.

Like real talk, the story composition in 13 is terrible, even if you overlook the fact that you're REQUIRED to read the grimoire that's in the settings. No one's motivations are made clear in order to make the whole thing seem like some sort of dumb Clue-esque whodoneit, EVEN THE MAIN ANTAGONIST, so when things happen it seems so far out of left field. It literally feels like they're making it up as they go along with how convenient some of the major character twists are.

And Lightning is just awful. Psychotically biopolar for half the game, and then woefully irrelevant for the rest. The cast is so god damn weak and it feels like no one should be there except Sazh, who really does feel like the only one with any real meaningful lasting motivation to be there considering the circumstances of the world.

God, I remember being so mad at the end of 13 when it infodumps what's actually going on and the weak sauce reasons why the characters are actually there, paired with that ULTRA shitty final boss fight. What a terrible climax.
 
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MrCibb

Member
Dec 12, 2018
5,349
UK
I'm guessing the XIV is XV. So I vote that.

XIII is the only FF I didn't finish once having started. Just put it down one night and never went back to. XV, however, I finished and loved. That first half was bliss, then it teetered off a bit afterwards when it was mostly detached small areas to explore, but then ended on a high since I thought the final sequences and ending were great too. I only ever played the Royal Edition which I know was improved somewhat, but I loved it.
 

Agni Kai

Member
Nov 2, 2017
6,924
Something something L'Cie something.

FFXV is my pick. Awesome game. Even better after the updates.
 

Diablos

has a title.
Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,595
FFXV was good enough to keep me engaged until the end as a means of forgetting about the 2016 election for a while, so that's how I know despite its many flaws that it is still a good -- perhaps not great, or amazing, but good -- game.
 

rude

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,812
I actually finished 15. chucked 13 in the trash after everyone on neogaf LIED about the game getting good at Gran Pulse.
 

Wagram

Banned
Nov 8, 2017
2,443
Easily Final Fantasy XIII. It's not perfect, it has problems. There's no denying that, but it's a comprehensive package.

Final Fantasy XV is fundamentally lacking. The story is incomplete, and what is there is poorly written, poorly explained, and poorly conveyed. It's a husk filled with many ideas and while some stick, most do not. The open world is mostly pointless, the sidequests suck, characters are not the same across the XV universe. It's just not a good Final Fantasy to me.
 

Apollo

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
8,096
I like both a lot. XIII has an astounding soundtrack, but I like XV more overall. They hit the emotional beats between the bros very well, so it's especially memorable for me.