I guess he was just being overly cautious and saving him for the finals, but I think he would've definetly won the league otherwise, he was believably strong in my opinion.
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Alola Pokémon League |OT| Seventh Time's The Charm? *Spoilers*
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Just gonna point out ESAM finally won a stacked Smash Ultimate major with Pikachu on the same day
It was mostly in this segment but yeah, guessing most of the budget is going to the battle with Kukui :S
It was mostly in this segment but yeah, guessing most of the budget is going to the battle with Kukui :S
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Yeah she'll get a huge pump from OakSo is Delia gonna pump some iron with Ash's new trophy?
Is this what the show looks like now? Cause that clip looks like complete trash.
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this forum is such a joke sometimes. Im done with it. If anyone wants to chat ill be on discord, maybe. I might also be dead.
I'd love it if she does that again or if she even mentions the orange league trophy.So is Delia gonna pump some iron with Ash's new trophy?
My friend you must have dropped the "/s" along the way.
Whatever, guess I'm in the minority. It's probably been twenty years since I watched Pokemon, so I don't really care. If they want to change the animation, that's fine. But in my worthless opinion, it looks like garbage.
Why do you think it looks like garbage? it's leaps and bounds above what this show used to be known for, which was a straight up slideshow for the most part.
FWIW I've legitimately enjoyed your posts on this topic, particularly in the thread on gaming side. Thanks for your insight.
Put him on ignore and move on lol. Yea idiots get annoying, but the ignore function on era is fantastic.
This is a hilariously bad opinion considering how basic some of the early pokemon animation was.
Before this tournament, Ash was a giant scrub.
Now he's a giant scrub with a trophy that he won from beating up a bunch of other giant scrubs.
Now watch as his team gets bodied by the Masked Royal, thereby reminding us that even with his scrub trophy, Ash still chokes as soon as an actual competitor steps into the ring.
Now he's a giant scrub with a trophy that he won from beating up a bunch of other giant scrubs.
Now watch as his team gets bodied by the Masked Royal, thereby reminding us that even with his scrub trophy, Ash still chokes as soon as an actual competitor steps into the ring.
Next episode: Ash wakes up. "I dreamt i finally won one! Come on Pikachu the final battle is today. Hope we win!"
Remember that the anime has never started late compared to a mainline game.
I'm happy to see Ash finally win but I can't help but feel a bit disappointed that after all this time waiting for him to win the big one it had to be on one that feels more like a bush league then an an actual challenge for him to overcome. The bar for entry into the league was way lower then normal since people didn't have to collect a set of badges to get in.
Anyone could join which meant most of the people competing where scrubs. Without even one full six on six match the entire thing feels so low stakes more like the prelims rather then the main event.
Anyone could join which meant most of the people competing where scrubs. Without even one full six on six match the entire thing feels so low stakes more like the prelims rather then the main event.
I disagree. Sure the entry is free for all but most of them got disqualified in the battle royale phase. Those who actually entered the main battle are mostly people with actual abilities that has been acknowledged by the legendary pokemon or the totem pokemon to receive the Z stones. Also they were acknowledged by the Kahunas and given a Z ring by them. Guzma and Gladion are no joke trainers. They are truly powerful and have many experiences.
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Official upload of the trailer for the next episode where Guzzlord eats the Pokémon League stadium
Hell, Guzma is one of the best strategists in Pokémon's anime. He was facing against Ilima's Mega Kangaskhan and so, to win, he always made sure the baby Kangaskhan was between the mother and his Pokémon so that the mother couldn't really attack
Of course people are going to adhere to game mechanics and say that's stupid but again, the anime isn't the games
Ok sure, Guzma and Gladion are decent trainers but look at the rest who got into the top 16. People like Lilly with all of one Pokemon, even Team Rocket for Arcus's sake the jobbest of jobbers. The the level of competition overall just feels like amateur hour rather then the big time it should be.
Because they where full battles Ash winning the orange league and defeating Gary and Paul felt like him overcoming Major walls. This while still being a victory just doesn't feel as significant as it should have. They should at least have made the championship match a full battle if nothing else.
it doesn't matter if he actually battled them or not, the fact they even made it as far as they did is enough to make the level of competition lower overall. Remember Top 16 is as far as Ash got in his first league and it wasn't a cake walk for him to get that far. Even Indigo league Ash would destroy Lilly, and could arguably do a number on petty much anyone under the top 4.
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I'm sure people would have said the same about Richie and Ash in Kanto "They only have unevolved Pokémon like Charmander and Squirtle"
That's kind of the point. Ash in Kanto didn't deserve to win the league. He just wasn't a very good trainer at that point. He got as far as he did more out of beginners luck then anything. Seeing Gary lose before him really drove home how real things where getting and while his loss to Richie was mainly due to outside interference from Team rocket tiring out most of his team he could have still carried the day if he'd trained his Charizard better.
Ultimately even if Ash beat Richie he would have lost that league regardless, and yet you could take that same Ash who's a scrub in comparison to the current Ash and he would be able to give most of the people in the Aloha league 8 and under a good match. In past leagues Ash getting to the finals felt like a huge accomplishment, this time it was utterly trivialized, making him winning the entire thing feel lesser then it should be.
In the last league the way it was done made it feel like Ash having access to his reserves wouldn't have made much of a difference. In this one it feels like if he had them he would have steamrolled the entire thing effortlessly. Frankly considering what he was up against it would have been more embarrassing if he had lost. Not Ash vs Cameron level but still bad.
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But does Ash getting into the Top 16 in Indigo league mean that the winner of that league didn't earn it/deserve it because other people they didn't battle in the Top 16 weren't great?
I'm not saying that, or that Ash didn't deserve to win this league. Just that if this was the league where the writers where finally going to let him with that they had done the whole thing better and more epic. This should have been a much more monumental moment then it was.
Past big moments where some of the best we'd gotten for their time. The end of the Orange leauge was one of the best battle's we'd ever gotten in the show to that point and is still fun to rewatch today. "The challenger wins the match, The challenger wins the match" had so much weight to it. This battle was just meh compared to what we've gotten in past leagues.
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Thinking on this a bit more, I see the anime merging Pokemon SwSh's setting with the idea of Pokemon Masters, having the Galar League as a Masters-only league. This means we see lots of familiar faces returning. Ash winning the Alolan League means he's able to qualify, but I expect we'll also have a few side characters that are newcomers. Perhaps if you live in Galar, you are also able to compete in the League, but it's obviously a lot more challenging.
None of the leaks for SwSh indicate this is a major element to the game, which is why I think it's inspired by Masters, which feels like it's part of the core Pokemon games. Just on mobile. For now.
What even... The animation is amazing. I don't particularly like the art style (I don't particularly like anime either), but it's done well. This is easily one of the best shows that looks like that.
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Yes, but nowhere has it been mentioned that it's a Masters-only league, nor that old core game characters are returning. I feel like that would be something that'd leak early.
Thing is, It kinda didn't. The Orange League that is. It didn't have any near as much weight to it - as far as the anime itself, and it's cast was concerned. Everything that that first win meant back then (and I do take it as his first win, fuck anyone who thinks any of the other fictional leagues are more 'real') was the audiences' reaction. I watched it back. It's good. A bit flaky with the pacing, and bullshit at times but yeah he got the win.
Kid me lapped every bit of that battle up though. And kid me would've been shaking in his spot when Pikachu double K-Os Zoroark. Type: Wild (assuming that'd even play in the dub, I haven't been watching that to know) would've got me jumping. Counter his Counter would've got me cheering. Because you infer so much more on something you're invested in than is necessarily there. This league was every bit as legendary as Orange Islands, to the kids watching it and seeing his Lycanrock finally get the win over Gladion's. Because we've see accumulative league efforts (each time likely getting less and less anxious to see him win because we've seen it all before) shouldn't jade the fact this was comparable to the stuff we've seen him do in the past. Hell, my favourite league battle was Gary, a league where he jobbed it next round, and even then only really the last five minutes of it when it's Charizard v Blastoise. This fight had way more significance than that. Gary and Ash barely ever fought before that match. We didn't even know Gary's team. But we hated him because he was Ash's rival. Gladion? We've seen him be ahead of Ash so often in this season. Beating him would've been as satisfying for a kid who got invested in Sun and Moon as it was for us to see Ash finally shut Gary up on the World stage.
This was as monumental as it was ever going to get. The animation was overall below par for Sun and Moon, In fact - flip the Lycanrock fight with Pikachu v Zoroark; have the two doggos double K-O, and Pikachu win out with his Z move, and it'd have been more hype from a spectacle point of view (I'm actually curious now whether that would've been received better than the Lycanrock match-up, end the tournament on a Z move), though I can still hold out hope that maybe because of the upcoming episodes we'll see where the budget went. But let's not pretend this hasn't been exactly what Pokémon battles - especially clutch battles for Ash - haven't always been like in the leagues.
Good to see Ash finally winning a canon league...just in time for him to lose against Masked Royal.
They better spent all of their budget and creative juices on that Royal fight because that Lyancanroc vs. fight was a bit disappointing with the constant Stone Edge spam. The Pikachu vs Zoroark fight before it was better looking than that.
They better spent all of their budget and creative juices on that Royal fight because that Lyancanroc vs. fight was a bit disappointing with the constant Stone Edge spam. The Pikachu vs Zoroark fight before it was better looking than that.
Well said. It's nice to see some real positivity toward this friggin fantastic milestone.
I think I finally figured it out. Ash is going to be sucked into an alternate reality fighting Guzzlord. When he awakens, he finds Hau's victory over him was called just that. Meaning Ash won the league but he didn't. What drama! What writing! That's Ash as we know and love him.
Ash will wake up from a coma in a hospital bed. With Misty and Delia by his side. Ash ask, "Where's Pikachu?". Both Misty and Delia have a sad look in their face, the camera goes back to Ash's face who's in complete shock, the screen turns black and then the credits roll.
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Harrison and Alain are really the only losing battles I enjoyed.
Tyson and Ritchie were okay.
The only reason he sent out Charizard was because of the Team Rocket fiasco that made him late for his match. Granted, it didnt make sense that he didnt have Kingler or Muk on him.
Been asking myself that for years, and not just for that match.