Well, you have a better technical understanding so I couldn't completely wave off what you were saying and really hoped you were right despite my skepticism. I'm happy to own up to it because ultimately this is great news for us. :-)
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All Xbox Games May Have HDR on Series X, Select XB1 Games to Get Resolution Enhancements Through BC (No Work Needed From Devs + Testing Unlocked FPS)
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It won't compensate for lower-quality textures (c'mon AI texture enhancement) and models, but hoo boy Arkham Knight and Mirror's Edge Catalyst looking clean as a whistle is the true next-gen feature
I really hope Sunset Overdrive gets enhanced. Batman Arkham Knight is one in desperate need too.
I believe it's going to be like Xbox 360 X enhanced, it will be dependent on what titles the BC team has worked on and it's likely they continue to add more titles after XSX releases.
Yeah, it's actually kind of funny that my excitement regarding Xbox Series X largely has to do with playing games I already love at higher graphical fidelity. I'm hoping for Forza Horizon 4 to be running at 4K60 and Sunset Overdrive to be running at 4K(60?) close to launch, if not at launch.
Forza Horizon 4 is likely to get a specific XSX enhancement patch from the devs on XSX.
I'd hope so, considering the fact that we probably won't be seeing Forza Horizon 5 for a while now. Whether it's automatic or specifically developed, however, I just look forward to playing an even better version of the game.
Well the biggest reason is FH4 is still being touched up by the developers and they have the XSX specs just like Gears 5, MCC, Ori and the Will of the Wisps. State of Decay 2, Bleeding Edge, Forza Horizon 4, Minecraft Dungeons, Gears Tactics, Wasteland 3, Grounded, and Tell Me Why.
Pyschonauts 2, MS Flight Simulator, Battletoads, and Crossfire X will also get XSX upgrade patches but not sure if they will release on XB1 before XSX launches.
Ok I was skeptical about the system-level HDR thing but this sounds awesome?
I think it's an interesting approach to try and make that old content look closer to new, because actually once you get used to good HDR content, SDR content does look flat and dull by comparison, so if I can add a bit of sheen to help me forget about that then that's cool.
Many TVs are doing this type of thing already, but it is so intense and processor heavy for them, that it's useless for games due to the amount of lag it introduces.
There are obviously some interesting discussions to be had about artistic intent and revisting older content to make it look different and of course the old "fake hdr" thing of what exactly IS hdr and when is it not.
Is this similar to what LG OLEDs do in their "HDR Effect" picture mode? I was avoiding that like the plague but maybe I'll watch a few things that are SDR and see if I like it.
It's that type of thing, I don't know how they achieve it on the LG, but perhaps in a similar way. It can work really well, but then you get a certain type of content appear on screen and it melts your face off as a clipped highlight on white shirt makes your TV glow.
And imagine practically zero loading times getting in and out of battles and entering/exiting hub towns. I would totally re-play LO.
I thought current Xbox One / One X BC load times were already a massive improvement over what I remembered on the 360 for LO
They have yet to state continuing resolution increases on BC Xbox 360 games.
It is expected that they would upres some existing Xbox One games, either by game patch or at the Xbox engineer level. Given their incredible level of skill and expertise on Xbox 360 BC, I would expect something more. A generalizable up-resing method, or something to unlock framerate limits in games as they allude to, would be incredible.
I can't believe how excited I am to play old games that I already own on this new hardware, let alone actual next gen games.
Question: assuming PS5 goes for a similar overall approach, do you think MS and Sony to also sell dedicated next-gen SKUs for selected games with even more next-gen features other than those mentioned in this article, like RTX, better textures and so on?
Have to imagine this game would look amazing at 4K 60fps with HDR. Most wanted game to update.
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Alien Isolation and Dark Souls 3 are both great picks; I'd throw Ace Combat 7 into consideration as well.
There are a good number of the HD remasters from this gen that would be a nice fit for this. I'd love to see the ported 3D Resident Evil games given a 4k bump.
That's going to happen with out without these features. Sekiro runs with an uncapped framerate so the Series X should brute force that to 60fps for most, if not all, situations.
There are a good number of the HD remasters from this gen that would be a nice fit for this. I'd love to see the ported 3D Resident Evil games given a 4k bump.
That's going to happen with out without these features. Sekiro runs with an uncapped framerate so the Series X should brute force that to 60fps for most, if not all, situations.
Yeah but that requires the developer to patch it themselves. This is MS doing the work for them.
Microsoft is the developer as well here, but I doubt they'd be showing the forced 4K if they were going to patch the game as well.
That last bit is exactly what I want!
It's just too bad that many games still don't have an X patch, then it will be the regular XB1 version I assume.
Battlefield 4 at Native 4K, steady 60fps and Auto HDR on XSX could even make me abandon Modern Warfare 2019.
Finger crossed!
Something I noticed and hasn't been mentioned yet since I saw the videos yesterday: I didn't see a Xbox 360 launch emulation at the beginning when they booted up The Cave. Did anyone else notice? Wonder if they will also integrate stores, UI and such things.
Also, The Cave was a really brutal example to use given that we cannot buy this game anymore on the store ;)
Also, The Cave was a really brutal example to use given that we cannot buy this game anymore on the store ;)
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That was showing off the suspend feature right? It would have already done that on the first boot of the game.
#BuildingTheList
720-900p Hell:
- Battlefield 4
- Battlefield: Hardline
- Mirror's Edge: Catalyst
- Dragon Age: Inquisition
- Batman: Arkham Knight
- Sunset Overdrive
- Watch Dogs
- Watch Dogs 2
- Assassin's Creed Unity
- Assassin's Creed Syndicate
- Assassin's Creed Black Flag
- Ryse: Son of Rome
- Tekken 7
- Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
- Dead Rising 3
- Far Cry 4
- Far Cry Primal
- The Evil Within
1080p Mediocrity:
- Alien Isolation
- Ace Combat 7
- Dark Souls 2
- Dark Souls 3
- Sleeping Dogs
- Tales of Vesperia: Definitive Edition
X360 Missing Enhancements:
- Lost Odyssey
- Gears of War: Judgment
- Asura's Wrath
- Midnight Club: Los Angeles
- Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge
+ sadly many many more that i am missing, but this is what i personally want.
720-900p Hell:
- Battlefield 4
- Battlefield: Hardline
- Mirror's Edge: Catalyst
- Dragon Age: Inquisition
- Batman: Arkham Knight
- Sunset Overdrive
- Watch Dogs
- Watch Dogs 2
- Assassin's Creed Unity
- Assassin's Creed Syndicate
- Assassin's Creed Black Flag
- Ryse: Son of Rome
- Tekken 7
- Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
- Dead Rising 3
- Far Cry 4
- Far Cry Primal
- The Evil Within
1080p Mediocrity:
- Alien Isolation
- Ace Combat 7
- Dark Souls 2
- Dark Souls 3
- Sleeping Dogs
- Tales of Vesperia: Definitive Edition
X360 Missing Enhancements:
- Lost Odyssey
- Gears of War: Judgment
- Asura's Wrath
- Midnight Club: Los Angeles
- Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge
+ sadly many many more that i am missing, but this is what i personally want.
Hell yea, I cannot believe I forgot Sunset Overdrive. Though it's one of the sharpest 900p games. MGS V and Batman Arkham Knight on the other hand...
Man, I really hope they will bump them up, I don't need 4K but at least 1440p would do wonders.
Me 2. They will definitely do it.
I play FH4 on the XOX in the 1080 60 mode and it looks quite good already in motion.. Increasing the resolution with much better drawdistances and shadowdetail etc could make it stunning. I think i also read that the 4k 30 graphical setting had a more advanced form of HDR versus the 1080 performance mode.
Maybe introducing some new form of Raytracing even. Advanced reflections on the paint of the cars etc...
The BC program makes me almost as excited as the specs do. I probably spent about an equal amount of time paying 360 and OG Xbox games on my one X as I did playing current gen games
I was working on some tools based upon the info I have to hand and some of the footage that was released yesterday. I'll try and get some videos of something like Sunset Overdrive using the same type of method that might be used for this HDR reconstruction.
I got halfway there last night with Halo 5 , but I just need to figure out some other colour conversion stuff.
I got halfway there last night with Halo 5 , but I just need to figure out some other colour conversion stuff.
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