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All Xbox Games May Have HDR on Series X, Select XB1 Games to Get Resolution Enhancements Through BC (No Work Needed From Devs + Testing Unlocked FPS)
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Clarification: "in theory" HDR could be applied to everything.
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Whoops, it was "in theory" that it could be applied to all games. Changed in the OP and put in a title update request.
I don't know if The Coalition will ever fix it which really sucks to be honest. Loved Gears 1 and was really looking forward to playing the remake on PC but that ain't happening with it being virtually unplayable due to the awful stuttering and framerate issues.
You can apply fake hdr as a post-processing step. It probably isn't going to look great, but will be nice for consistency.
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It's still locked to an integer scale, Sunset Overdrive would be 1800p if enhanced.
HDR system explanation from EvilBoris
I've been speaking to them about it. It's super sophisticated and extends the work done by the Coalition on Gears 5.
With Gears they trained an AI to look at SDR and HDR output frames of various games and understand what the difference in colour space transform was:
So HDR became the ground truth and SDR was the image that was derived from that.
The AI could see how HDR to SDR had been converted by the game and once it had been trained with enough data would actually be able to do the opposite. To take the SDR image and make it look like the same HDR image.
Trained with enough data you can then take an SDR game and perform that same inverse tone mapping.
They are working with an even more sophisticated setup than the software only approach of Gears 5.
Now the advantage with doing it at a source level, is that it is possible to have access to the original 11bit or 16bit data including, rather than have to apply it as a post-process to an 8bit image - which doesn't contain enough data to avoid banding.
Also because of it is happening at source, it is far faster and latency-free compared to doing it in other ways (or having a TV do it)
The Solution for the Xbox Series X goes further and all of this happens on the display controller so there is 0 affect on memory and GPU performance , working in HDR normally has a minor hit on these things. Which is actually why the S is overlocked vs the XB1 OG.
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It happenes now with Xbox One and Xbox 360 games so I don't see why they wouldn't continue it.
Ah, that's pretty impressive, i thought AI might have something to do with it, it seems it will have a big part to play next gen, probably for upscaling like DLSS too.
ofc, but maybe their method is different here? like 360 BC enhancements vs changing the code
bit sad, since properly patching the game should've allowed for some nice 60fps action
Well I think the thing to remember is that you don't need AI to perform the operation, rather you need it to do the learning.
This is why there is no machine learning components built into the console, as you wouldn't ever be training an AI on the machine.
I think it's why DLSS is a little bit of a swizz as I don't think it actually uses the tensor cores on a client device to perform that side of it.
Yeah tensor cores seem to be a bit of a failure & Nvidia shifting r&d costs onto consumers, i would not be surprised to see them gone in Ampere.
They are looking to improve that. Also this team will be working right of the bat to come with new tech to improve framerate and resolution and will likely deliver new features over the course of the generation.
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Xbox Series X: A Closer Look at the Technology Powering the Next Generation - Xbox Wire
A few months ago, we revealed Xbox Series X, our fastest, most powerful console ever, designed for a console generation that has you, the player, at its center. When it is released this holiday season, Xbox Series X will set a new bar for performance, speed and compatibility, all while allowing...
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That sounds absolutely amazing, and it sounds like the type of intricate feature that Sony may not be able to match. Time will tell though.
they won't go, because there are tonnes of users outside of gaming where the presence of that stuff is amazing
Xbox Series X: A Closer Look at the Technology Powering the Next Generation - Xbox Wire
A few months ago, we revealed Xbox Series X, our fastest, most powerful console ever, designed for a console generation that has you, the player, at its center. When it is released this holiday season, Xbox Series X will set a new bar for performance, speed and compatibility, all while allowing...
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Alien Isolation in 4K with HDR would be amazing. Also the difference in load times is pretty significant as well.
It will be an interesting one too see, when I've looked at the pre-tonemapped image on PC and many of the materials in the game flat out weren't made with HDR in mind, many even seemingly dim light sources are presented in such a way they would be as bright as the in game sun.
Amazing, makes think about Sony and their massive library they are leaving behind, cmon Sony, make me a happy lad once again.
This is why I bought most of my games digitally on xbox. I've always trusted them to be at the forefront of digital libraries.
Did I understood this right? Will all physical XBox One games be compatible with the XBox Series X?
This is the game on a 2080 Ti
Massive fps drops consistently. It's dreadful. I refuse to play a game with that kind of performance on a top of the line rig, so yes, it's essentially unplayable for me.
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