Plenty of exclusives don't have Pro patches. Like half of Sony published games don't.
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All games with PS4 Pro enhancements
- Thread starter Liabe Brave
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This is a game which is constantly being updated though, with another new version around the corner and a game which will be played at competitive events.
Maybe they'll release one to tie in with the arcade edition.
Heh, I doubt we'll see R* lift a finger to update that game unless it's to encourage online Shark Card purchases.
At least it runs better in Boost Mode.
This user was warned: "Lazy devs" rhetoric is incredibly toxic and frowned upon here.
well fuck them, lazy fuckers
I think this is one case where "lazy devs" can actually apply. R* has a massive warchest and hundreds upon hundreds of employees, it's baffling that they can't dedicate a handful to work on a Pro patch for a couple weeks.
Especially for a game that continues to top sales charts month in and month out.
Edit: To be fair, though, I guess they may have all hands on deck for RDR2. Still.
God I am loving this system. I got an intense programming job and I should be in the library but man PS4 Pro is AWESOME
Especially Horizon god damn this game and also Last of US. Naught Dog bow bow
Especially Horizon god damn this game and also Last of US. Naught Dog bow bow
My guess is, they believe it wouldn't make a difference. I think pro patches drives sales in the case of most games, but GTA5 may be an exception since thats the one game people are going to get anyway.
It's more baffling that Sony can't do it for their own games on their own hardware. What incentive do third parties have to go back and Pro patch when not even Sony does it?
Glad you like it. Horizon Zero Dawn, ACO, GTS, and CoDWWII are all great looking games if you haven't checked them out already.
On a 1080p display I'd go for the performance mode. Get those extra bells and whistles over a supersampled 4K image but that's just me.
I tried both for a while and couldn't really notice anything better about performance. There's so little difference though, it barely matters.
I have a problem displaying 4K content on my Sony XBR-55X850D. Everytime a game renders HDR my TV display switches to 1080P. I switch HDR off (option in Horizon) and it switches to 4K? It has to be a problem with my TV settings but I can't figure it out. Any ideas?
Are they connected directly? Have you tried a different hdmi cable?
Dang, it was the HDMI cable. That's lame. Guess it's time for a new one. Thanks so much!
No worries. It sounds like a bandwidth problem so you could still use that cable for something that doesn't go beyond 1080p.
I'll never understand this... XD We've discussed this a few times on the old forum too, but there is basically zero upsides to playing Horizon in performance mode on Pro. Performance mode runs at a lower resolution and isn't as crisp and detailed as resolution mode, it has worse texture filtering and no other visual boosts to speak of. There are no extra bells and whistles.The boost in performance you get is absolutely negligible too, because it is still locked at 30fps and the resolution mode already runs at a locked 30fps 99% of the time.
Especially their biggest franchise uncharted collection. If ms can upgrade the masterchief collection with more games to support the one x there is no reason why naughty dog can't.
This.
Performance mode is for people who simply cannot handle the game dropping a smidge below that 30fps target.
Hmm according to the OP's list it also adds better reflections, DOF and lighting. I never used the mode since I have a 4K TV but my recommendation is to try both modes and see if you notice any stuttering on the 4K mode.
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Thank you very much! It appears that Future Tone doesn't have downsampling for 1080p displays...but it does have improved AA versus its 4K mode. So edges and detail are about as smooth as they would be with downsampling, but the texture filtering isn't improved.
Thanks, done!
Never say never! I generated all these images, so can change them however needed. I'm sorry that this issue didn't occur to me previously. There's fewer games that use the yellow indicator, so I've changed that one rather than the green--making it more orange, and altering the text treatment slightly. Please let me know if this is sufficient to tell them apart (a good test is the block for the game Knack, which uses all three colors). If not, I'll revise again.
My apologies for the long stretch without updates. Few games come out during late December, and with holidays and work I haven't been able to devote much time to the thread. I've made the changes note above now, though, and added four titles. It'll probably still be a little while before I can get back to rapid additions, as I continue working on my other project. I've already missed the December timeframe I was shooting for, and there's still a lot to do.
But as always, any links, screenshots, or comparisons are very much appreciated, and will be helpful even if I don't get to them immediately. Thanks everyone!
Oh wow, that makes a big difference! Thanks! Didn't expect you to go through the trouble. Appreciate it!
Killing floor 2 is the only one that 1 can think of noted by the dev. Probably just added an extra layer of high frequency texture map or just char models. Running games at higher resolution than based ps4 eats up the additional 500+mb memory added to the pro very quick. The just isn't enough headroom left for higher quality assets. Repeating like a broken record, Sony should have eat the cost and added an extra 4gigs ram at launch and components price drop will happen. The one x has 3.5gigs more vram over the pro for 4k texture and texture can be the most noticeable different between games. Look at mordor 2 for instance. Some engine are also very memory hungry like idtech which is why there is huge res difference between two platform.
Took a few pics of Bulletstorm: Full Clip Edition running in 4K.
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My big fear it's the pro will have a very short life. I don't see this hardware survive beyond the 2019. Sony probably knows it for awhile and just offered a better hardware who can't suffer the ps4 og performance until the new console. I don't see any other logic explanation.
How can with the same amount of RAM? Better AF indeed is very frequent. But not as much as I'd like.
And what do you think happens after 2019 until the PS5 arrives? The Pro will "die", but the PS4 Amateur will continue to "live"? This makes no sense.
Also Sony is well known to support the each generation a while into the next. There is absolutely no reason to believe that the PS4 will be immidiately dropped like a hot potato on PS5 day one. It will continue to be relevant for a year or two at least. And it will work the same with the Pro like it does now. And the PS5 will not be here before 2020, possibly 2021.
Fingers crossed that the Arcade Edition update included Pro support but I'm not going to be surprised when it doesn't considering Capcom's shoestring budget these days.
Final Fantasy XV on Pro has apart from greatly improved texture filtering also some improved texturing and shaders here and there. Two examples:
PS4 :
PS4 Pro:
(More detail to the tarmac, added wetness.]
PS4:
PS4 Pro:
(More detail to the metal ornament, more plasticity.)
I don't think the textures shown above are just a sign of better texture filtering and clarity due to a higher resolution.
I would add that I(and a lot of other people) expect the PS5 to be backwards compatible with the Pro. So pubs releasing PS4 games after the PS5 launches will take Pro support very seriously (assuming they're not adding PS5 support too).
Is the Pro getting a Doom patch? I know one is coming to X but I already own it on PS4. Been itching to give it another playthrough.
Actually Bethesda hasn't mentioned Doom getting an XBX patch officially either. They listed all of their planned X upgrades back in Nov and Doom wasn't one of them. So, we can safely expect there not to be a Pro patch if there won't be an X patch to begin with or vice versa.
https://www.destructoid.com/here-are-all-of-bethesda-s-enhancements-for-xbox-one-x-471320.phtml
I'm not sure. I think I remember someone mentioning that it's been taken off the "upcoming x patches" list. So maybe it's coming to neither.
I'm hoping for one too, been waiting for a potential Pro patch before my second playthrough.
Edit : Beaten like an imp by doom guy.
No, it's still on the official X list which is updated daily https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/xbox-one/xbox-one-x-enhanced-list
Hoping Pro will get it too as I don't really want to buy it again. Also does Sony have anything like the official X enhanced list for Pro?
That's good that it's still on the list, glad I was wrong.
I don't think Sony maintain any website other than the store. There's the blog but afaik posts are just non updated articles bar error corrections.
Anyone know better?
The problem is that when I look at games on the store (on the console), even if they have Pro patches, they still say 1080p output in the details? Even though I know they're not. I also can't see where it says the games are patched or not - am I missing something obvious?
I'll try and post a screenshot later to show what I mean.
I wouldn't put too much stock in this if I were you. For example, the Sony page for The Evil Within 2 had Pro enhanced from day 1 even though the patch came out weeks (months) later. Same for Prey.
I would rather go for info provided by the developer/publisher. Bethesda did not mention Doom in their XBX enhanced games when they started putting out those patches.
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In addition to Killing Floor 2 already mentioned, these games have better textures on Pro:
Battlefield 1
Danganronpa V3
F1 2017
Hatsune Mike Project DIVA X
LawBreakers
NHL 18
Prey
World of Tanks
Note that there's only a little extra RAM on Pro, so these improved textures usually aren't massively better, and not every texture is higher. (In fact, only a few may be.) But the above list doesn't include titles with improved AF either, which effectively makes the same textures look higher resolution. So a decent swath of games have benefits in this department.
But it's not the majority, and other effects like lighting and shadows are more likely to see tweaks. And no effect changes are as ubiquitous as resolution increase, which is the main function of Pro.
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The change to the record is based on my analysis of some recent screenshots. However, they were not direct comparisons and distinguishing between downsampling and other forms of AA can be difficult.
Let me see if I can round up some better evidence before you definitively take it off your list. I'll do some research tonight and let you know.
I don't think you're missing anything obvious though Sony obviously is.
This thread remains by far the best resource on the Web to help inform your Pro purchases.
Are you able to acertain whether it is running at native 4K from these Liabe Brave ? As then the question mark could be taken out of the OP.
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I should be able to, but not on my phone. I'll check it later from home. Thank you very much!