It's honestly a shame they let Marko walk. Having him hang around with Sammy flossing and interfering in his matches and shit would be some good/fun heel heat.
This is what I'm hoping for as well. Sending over a few promising youngsters like Top Flight to take part in BotSJ would be great for their development and they're already good enough to have some exciting matches throughout the tournament.More than anything I'm hoping for a more significant AEW presence in the BotSJ. I think a lot of the smaller and younger guys could gain a hell of a lot from that experience, and New Japan really need a shake up with some new names in that tourney.
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Yeah, her delivery on all the burns was ruined by her trying not to be seen gasping for breath. From now on the only person allowed to do post match promos is Danielson, because he somehow never breaks a sweat. Or just give a little time before making her talk, but everything was incredibly rushed and compressed tonight
This is what I'm thinking as well, mainly because maybe Danhausen isn't 100% yet.Nese gets involved after the match, Danhousen saves Hook and it leads to a tag match of some kind is something I could see and honestly, I think it could work really well. Kind of like an RKBro style team of the straight man and the comedy guy.
The Cole vs Ishii match felt like a legit 4 stars or a 3 and a half stars at the LEAST. It was a fun banger and went toe to toe consistently. I personally found it to be better than Punk vs Rhodes but by a slim margin as I loved that match too. Eddie Kingston's match against Daniel Garcia was pretty decent too. Eddie is fired up for his feud against Jericho and it feels spicy. Lance Archer won a squash match in what felt like a legit minute. I wish I could figure out what the heck they're going to do with him long term. I can talk about these in more detail if folks want me to.
The Jade Cargill vs Marina Shafir match was absolutely awful. Multiple botches, every single move and setup was ultra slow, and it made for a total downer. Typically, slower and more methodical matches are a-ok with me. You can just tell how telegraphed the whole affair was though and it brought it down several levels. The thing is, me and my section are into Jade Cargill and were just legit sad when that match ended. I'll be frank, Marina was not the opponent in this spot that Jade should have gotten. Marina herself wasn't ready for that spot in the Rampage main event. I think the world of Jade Cargill but I feel like they absolutely fucked her here with the booking. Her mic skills weren't as sharp as usual too. Felt like a legit step back. I'm heartbroken. I think she's got it all. Her ring work needs a lot of seasoning but Tony's putting her in a tough spot by giving her the Goldberg role in modern day wrestling when fans who go to these shows are smarter than they were in 1997. So for Tony Khan to put Jade in a marquee role against an opponent who's also just as green as she is, we ended up with a recipe for disaster. They can fix this ASAP in her next match if it's much better but as for tonight, what a downer of an ending./SPOILER]
Yeah, sorta, he does do one. It fits in with his character though. Ultra chill, few words, just enough to spark the flame against Danhausen
The "This is only for their hardcore fans and won't grow the audience" discourse was in full effect last night. Some choice responses.
AEW could certainly do more to help new viewers feel more included, but I always think back to my own experience with pro wrestling as a kid, and how I got back into it after a 10-year break: I saw cool-looking people doing cool-looking stuff, and I made the effort to learn more about the cool-looking stuff that captured my attention.
The "This is only for their hardcore fans and won't grow the audience" discourse was in full effect last night. Some choice responses.
AEW could certainly do more to help new viewers feel more included, but I always think back to my own experience with pro wrestling as a kid, and how I got back into it after a 10-year break: I saw cool-looking people doing cool-looking stuff, and I made the effort to learn more about the cool-looking stuff that captured my attention.
LOL Jose
Been a while since there's been a Dynamite to quickly forget but this weeks episode was it.
By AEW's standards, this is one of the worse shows they've done for a good while for me.
I liked Punk-Dustin, the BCC match, the Wardlow segment, Eddie promo, Deeb/Shida video package, the MJF/Jake segment, Danhausen finally getting to do something other than curse people, the supershow announcement (not the segment) and that's about it.
JB-KoR was slow, boring and the crowd just wasn't that into it. I'm not gonna cry about a heel straight up winning clean in AEW but the ending fell real flat, like it just happened and tbh the crowd seemed surprised too. Again nothing wrong with that but I feel like a surprise should also make sense looking back and I don't think the match was built so that this ending felt natural.
Everything related to the women on this show (bar the Shida/Deeb stuff) was dire and TK should feel embarrassed by what he put on screen tonight. Put aside the "match", the content of Britt's promo was trash and her mic work was awful. If only there was an incident in the past where Britt wrestled then cut a terrible post match promo that could've showed us that letting her do it again would've been a bad idea.
Thunder Rosa is still your AEW World Backstage Champion and restricted to generic 30 second fighting champion promos.
The Sammy stuff wasn't that bad with them actually leaning into it more now but IDGAF about Scorpio Sky because 1. he sucks and 2. is continually upstaged by both Lambert and Ethan. Why would I care about Scorpio? Why is this feud still going? Can we just put the men aside and get to the PvZ match already?
Backstage filler from the "Undisputed Elite" who can't win matches.
Adam Cole has supposedly done enough in AEW to hijack announcing a massive cross promotion supershow spot from the presidents of said company. Sorry Cole but I'd rather hear Tony talk. Then Jay White came out to fill time and try get us excited for the Bullet Club in 2022.
Darby-Andrade was just another garbage brawl, filled with interference, and the most interesting thing that happened was Sting repeating his big dive from Revolution. Darby wins but it doesn't feel definitive enough to feel like the feud is over.
There was also more missed spots/wrong camera cuts on this show and I had issues with the FITE feed.
A real, uninspired creatively lazy effort this week that is hopefully just the usual one week blip.
I'm still dumbfounded by how quickly Sammy effectively turned a Dan Lambert led stable face. This really speaks to the punchability of Sammy.
The "This is only for their hardcore fans and won't grow the audience" discourse was in full effect last night. Some choice responses.
I read this as a reply to a reddit thread about AEW cagematch ratings. If you want to argue that user reviews of a niche product (or a wildly popular product, for that matter) don't tell you much I'll tend to agree, but there were multiple posts that almost word for word said "All this tells you is that they make a product their audience likes, anybody can do that and claim they're doing well"
Out of this world, right? Most of those people aren't coming from honest places, anyway.
I haven't watched a full New Japan show in years, but there seems to be more of a buzz around them again lately, and a show like this might push me over the edge to get another World sub.
Sorry if this was posted earlier in the thread but Yuta's new theme RULES
"This is an AEW-NJPW event, said Ohbari. "But the key phrase here is, 'Never say never.' Really nothing is off the table, and who knows what the future may hold for AEW and Stardom."
AEW, NJPW announce first-ever joint pay-per-view event - Sports Illustrated
The two promotions will join together in June after ongoing discussions of a potential partnership came to fruition.www.si.com
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Khan shared that the card will be full of matches pitting stars of the two companies against one another, though it is not out of the realm of possibility that there will also be a match pitting New Japan wrestlers against one another.
It is also possible that there are matches featuring only AEW talent. AEW has an outstanding women's division, but New Japan does not employ female wrestlers. Its parent company, Bushiroad, also owns Stardom, which is New Japan's sister promotion.
"This is an AEW-NJPW event, said Ohbari. "But the key phrase here is, 'Never say never.' Really nothing is off the table, and who knows what the future may hold for AEW and Stardom.""
Out of this world, right? Most of those people aren't coming from honest places, anyway.
I haven't watched a full New Japan show in years, but there seems to be more of a buzz around them again lately, and a show like this might push me over the edge to get another World sub. This kind of stuff is good for pro wrestling in general. It also helps to keep in mind that wrestling fans exist in more places than just the United States. People have a hard time seeing outside their own bubble sometimes.
Most of them aren't, but you've got to wonder about the people who watch WWE regularly with the attitude of "I sure fucking hate this"
*barges in* Hi, I just started watching after taking a loooooooong break from wrestling.
Sad to read the Jade/Marina breakdown. I imagine they'll do their best to cover things in editing, but sounds like it's gonna be a bad time in terms of the Jade and women's division discourse on Friday.
I think I asked you a couple of weeks ago about how Dynamite was and you basically said well the first half was good and I ended up loving the whole show.I'm glad you still managed to find around an hour of stuff that you did enjoy. I don't have any strong ripostes to your takes, as I can understand why you'd have those opinions even if I was more okay with some of the stuff than you were.
Sad to read the Jade/Marina breakdown. I imagine they'll do their best to cover things in editing, but sounds like it's gonna be a bad time in terms of the Jade and women's division discourse on Friday.
I think I asked you a couple of weeks ago about how Dynamite was and you basically said well the first half was good and I ended up loving the whole show.
I recognise people are way higher on guys like Cole and definitely Scorpio than me.
That main event was just such a disappointment to me, why can't they just have a one on one match with no interference? Was it even a blow off? You shouldn't have to wonder about these things. Also the Hardys were backstage, why didn't they help out Darby & Sting when the last 5 weeks all they've done is feud with the AFO and help out Darby & Sting?
This is what I mean by it feeling lazy last night, it just felt like we've got to have people on the show, doesn't matter what it's for or if we'd already done it before. It was like two different people booked the show.
Agreed on your first point. The matches are fun but the angles are stale. Andrade needs a big win after his hostile takeover and Darby/Sting while entertaining (I really enjoy their matches) just kind of feels "there" when it's not match time.It was a good episode but if I had to point out some nit picks:
-The coffin match was good but Andrade just sort of feels stagnant. The Family Office stuff is just awful, and maybe some of it has to do with the Darby/Sting stuff sort of feeling long in the tooth. It feels like Sting/Darby have been in the same or similar type of angle for like 2 straight years. I have faith that AEW will figure out how to do something interesting with someone as talented as Andrade but hopefully it comes soon.
-I feel like I'm on an island here, but does anyone else think the Deeb/Shida stuff is like super boring and a blood feud that just won't end?
Andrade still had zero exciting feuds since he joinedIt was a good episode but if I had to point out some nit picks:
-The coffin match was good but Andrade just sort of feels stagnant. The Family Office stuff is just awful, and maybe some of it has to do with the Darby/Sting stuff sort of feeling long in the tooth. It feels like Sting/Darby have been in the same or similar type of angle for like 2 straight years. I have faith that AEW will figure out how to do something interesting with someone as talented as Andrade but hopefully it comes soon.
-I feel like I'm on an island here, but does anyone else think the Deeb/Shida stuff is like super boring and a blood feud that just won't end?
It was a good episode but if I had to point out some nit picks:
-The coffin match was good but Andrade just sort of feels stagnant. The Family Office stuff is just awful, and maybe some of it has to do with the Darby/Sting stuff sort of feeling long in the tooth. It feels like Sting/Darby have been in the same or similar type of angle for like 2 straight years. I have faith that AEW will figure out how to do something interesting with someone as talented as Andrade but hopefully it comes soon.
-I feel like I'm on an island here, but does anyone else think the Deeb/Shida stuff is like super boring and a blood feud that just won't end?