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All Elite Wrestling |OT10| Punk goes All Out with a heel turn
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Here you go. Their feud in Lucha Underground was excellent. Killshot in this match is Swerve Strickland.
View: https://youtu.be/CFpa6zYqSMg
TK, I don't care if you have to buy Cinnabon, you better not let Takeshita get away.
Toni Storm and Emi Sakura had an entertaining match on Elevation tonight, and Hikaru Shida came back. Big Ws for this show.
Dark Order are still over. Big pop when their music hit.
Dark Order are still over. Big pop when their music hit.
JD Drake vs. Konosuke Takeshita was short but still friggin' excellent. Love both these guys.
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That was a great Elevation tonight
- Toni Storm vs Emi Sakura was great
- Hikaru Shida vs Robyn Renegade was a lot of fun
- Love me some Takeshita
- First time seeing AR Fox after hearing great things about him (I have the match from Lucha Underground saved in my watch later on YouTube)
- The commentary team was a lot of fun. Mark Henry really has improved once he began to joke around on commentary.
View: https://giphy.com/gifs/deadpool-applause-clapping-l0MYDGA3Du1hBR4xG
- Toni Storm vs Emi Sakura was great
- Hikaru Shida vs Robyn Renegade was a lot of fun
- Love me some Takeshita
- First time seeing AR Fox after hearing great things about him (I have the match from Lucha Underground saved in my watch later on YouTube)
- The commentary team was a lot of fun. Mark Henry really has improved once he began to joke around on commentary.
View: https://giphy.com/gifs/deadpool-applause-clapping-l0MYDGA3Du1hBR4xG
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Yeah...watching Smackdown (first time in years) last week did more than enough to keep away from the product.
That was one of my favorite hard-core matches of all time.
He did an interview on Emi Sakura's Youtube and said he's only going back to Japan for a month and a half. Don't worry he'll be back.
Really fun Elevation last night, a wealth of great womens action especially.
- Toni vs Emi Sakura was great, while Kris and Shida each just got to show off how good they are. Loved Shida's new entrance gear!
- I like Angelico and Private Party teaming up, but I would love all three of these guys to turn face.
- Nice to see Baron Black get his first win, and Brandon Cutler was the perfect foil for it.
- Take vs Drake could've gone another 5 minutes but it was great action.
Although it sucks that Takeshita is heading back to Japan for a bit, he is stopping off in the UK for a few dates so I get to see him wrestle live!
Dax Harwood Shares Story Of Getting A Voicemail From Sting Thanking FTR For Arthur Ashe Bout | Fightful News
Dax Harwood shares story of a voicemail left to him from Sting.
Best part of this was Cash talking about how he actually answered the phone when Sting called and talked to him, rather than letting it go to voicemail.
Dax Harwood Shares Story Of Getting A Voicemail From Sting Thanking FTR For Arthur Ashe Bout | Fightful News
Dax Harwood shares story of a voicemail left to him from Sting.www.fightful.com
Go touch some grass you fucking dork. lol. You're in way too deep when you're writing something like this earnestly.
In 2022, I really don't want to hear what kind of conversation Undertaker and AJ would have.
Dax Harwood Shares Story Of Getting A Voicemail From Sting Thanking FTR For Arthur Ashe Bout | Fightful News
Dax Harwood shares story of a voicemail left to him from Sting.
D'aww. This rules. <3
Did Dave actually say this?
There's a ton of doom and gloom hitting AEW right now.
There's a ton of doom and gloom hitting AEW right now.
IMO there really isn't a need to worry about AEW. To me WWE and AEW have really different fan bases with not much of a crossover. I don't know many people who watch both just one or the other.
I look at it like this.. in Metal you had the big four.. Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, and Anthrax. Just because one existed didn't mean the other one couldn't exist and some of these bands had very different fan bases. I would argue if one did really good it helped the other become more competitive
If anything it will help create strong competition. I think there is room for more than one big wrestling company. Honestly, I'm surprised there isn't a 3rd one popping up yet.
I look at it like this.. in Metal you had the big four.. Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, and Anthrax. Just because one existed didn't mean the other one couldn't exist and some of these bands had very different fan bases. I would argue if one did really good it helped the other become more competitive
If anything it will help create strong competition. I think there is room for more than one big wrestling company. Honestly, I'm surprised there isn't a 3rd one popping up yet.
Dave really needs to calm himself down.
Does WWE have an opportunity to improve now? Definitely, but both products cater to different audiences and as long as AEW continue at the level they are, they will be fine.
Not saying AEW doesn't have room to improve because of course they do, but these wrestling journalists/content creators are looking at it from a perspective where they have been forced to watch WWE for work and think that WWE suddenly becoming good will mean people will stop watching AEW when most people simply watch the shows they like and aren't forced into one company.
Who did Pantera ever beat? They only had like 3 good songs.
*runs*
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Who did Pantera ever beat? They only had like 3 good songs.
*runs*
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Official music video remastered in 4K for Pantera - "Walk" from 'Vulgar Display of Power' (1992)📼 Watch all of Pantera’s official videos here http://bit.ly/...
As a metalhead, I agree
*Also runs away*
(Cemetery Gates is great too)
He said it but not as something he thinks will happen, just something that could happen if things go badly for AEW in tv contract negotiations.
Let me get this straight.
AEW puts on banger shows, fills arenas in LA, Chicago, and Rochester, puts on what many are calling the PPV of the year, has the #1 show on Wednesday cable for (5?) weeks straight, but because Hunter comes in to WWE creative, it's all over?
I know this type of panicked discourse isn't happening here, but it's clearly out there, and it's weird. Some concern is warranted for sure, but not to the level of jumping ship or turning in your fan card.
I do feel like AEW is on a bit of a downswing at the moment, mostly due to missing 4 of their biggest stars (3 after this week), and WWE is certainly doing well and will continue to do well--and of course AEW has areas they could and need to improve--but I'm more excited than anything else for the future. After the initial bit of worry, I'm sure Tony Khan will turn this nervous energy into a coke-fueled wrestling carnival.
P.S. I don't see AEW viewers jumping ship to WWE wholesale just because of some changes in WWE. If anything, they'll just watch both now instead of AEW exclusively.
AEW puts on banger shows, fills arenas in LA, Chicago, and Rochester, puts on what many are calling the PPV of the year, has the #1 show on Wednesday cable for (5?) weeks straight, but because Hunter comes in to WWE creative, it's all over?
I know this type of panicked discourse isn't happening here, but it's clearly out there, and it's weird. Some concern is warranted for sure, but not to the level of jumping ship or turning in your fan card.
I do feel like AEW is on a bit of a downswing at the moment, mostly due to missing 4 of their biggest stars (3 after this week), and WWE is certainly doing well and will continue to do well--and of course AEW has areas they could and need to improve--but I'm more excited than anything else for the future. After the initial bit of worry, I'm sure Tony Khan will turn this nervous energy into a coke-fueled wrestling carnival.
P.S. I don't see AEW viewers jumping ship to WWE wholesale just because of some changes in WWE. If anything, they'll just watch both now instead of AEW exclusively.
I can see Dave's POV in that Bellator still exists and does well enough for itself but it's not anywhere near real competition for the UFC which is the big mainstream promotion. And it's plausible because WWE is succeeding perfectly fine as is business-wise even with terrible booking/creative. But harnessing all of that in a positive fashion (which is possible with Vince gone/new blood installed) where you draw back in more lapsed fans and even more viewers/attention could well greatly overshadow whatever AEW does because they haven't shown the capacity to grow their audience very much beyond its hardcore base of fans. Blame that on injuries, overstretched booking, whatever, but that's reality.
And it matters, for now anyway, because AEW does see itself as legit competition to WWE and are fighting and clawing for mindshare in that mainstream space, they're not content to just be Bellator or the serious but smaller workrate promotion.
Dave has his faults but he's been at this for a long time and has decades of past experience in various industries to draw upon in these things, so I take his views on this all a little more seriously compared to these other dirtsheet/inside baseball folk. He called out the problems of ROH/AEW existing as this weird co-branding thing comparing it to WEC/UFC and I think he is/was right on the money with that.
And it matters, for now anyway, because AEW does see itself as legit competition to WWE and are fighting and clawing for mindshare in that mainstream space, they're not content to just be Bellator or the serious but smaller workrate promotion.
Dave has his faults but he's been at this for a long time and has decades of past experience in various industries to draw upon in these things, so I take his views on this all a little more seriously compared to these other dirtsheet/inside baseball folk. He called out the problems of ROH/AEW existing as this weird co-branding thing comparing it to WEC/UFC and I think he is/was right on the money with that.
If anything those lapsed fans returning might want more wrestling and want to check out what else is out there and that could in turn also help AEW. AEW will be fine even if more people start tuning into Raw/SmackDown.
Reminds me of the worry marathon around Discovery Warner merge. What if they don't like AEW, how will the meeting go etc.
Gresham wanting out and Vince leaving with HHH taking over creative is a bad news combo for AEW hype. This can only be fixed with adding Womens tag belts and a second match on dynamite with more emphasis on fun.
I await mass panic when MJF joins wwe.
Gresham wanting out and Vince leaving with HHH taking over creative is a bad news combo for AEW hype. This can only be fixed with adding Womens tag belts and a second match on dynamite with more emphasis on fun.
I await mass panic when MJF joins wwe.
Funny because I listen to Pantera but none of the big four. SEE MY POINT EXACT.
Pantera is like GCW
I don't understand the concern when:
a) Under Vince's management, AEW was still miles away ratings and money wise. If Vince stayed, that would still be the case for a very long time.
b) Why would WWE getting good be bad for AEW? It's weird to see people insecure about the things they like. Would suddendly AEW become bad because of the other promotion improving?
Yes, Tony is going to have to try harder in the future. But this doom and gloom stuff hinges entirely on the idea that TK is just going to implode the second WWE improves. It also totally ignores the reality of the situation, which is that pro wrestling is niche, and in that niche WWE was already leading. WWE isn't going to suddenly grow the business exclusively for themselves. There's a ceiling.
Heck yeah. No idea who the opponent is, but love that they're continuing to show these overseas matches.
View: https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1551930342763728896?s=20&t=Ef8gmJq9WaDHAYklE8wJ6w
And something wholesome. LOL
View: https://twitter.com/DaxFTR/status/1551902284346425346?s=20&t=Ef8gmJq9WaDHAYklE8wJ6w
View: https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1551930342763728896?s=20&t=Ef8gmJq9WaDHAYklE8wJ6w
And something wholesome. LOL
View: https://twitter.com/DaxFTR/status/1551902284346425346?s=20&t=Ef8gmJq9WaDHAYklE8wJ6w
I was surprised at the amount of people in the Vince thread and this thread who said that they might watch WWE again. I thought there would be a lot more people who were just not interested in their product at all. To me it seemed like people actually want to watch WWE but can't because of Vince and his business deals. But Vince is gone now and if the shows get better because of HHHs booking there might be more fans who watch both products.
It's just a little thing but I truly love that they continue to put flags to wrestlers' names when it comes to this title.
You're all missing the point... no one is dooming and glooming that AEW will die or anything. Who said that? That's not what Dave is saying.
Just that they'll possibly get left behind and cast as the secondary niche promotion ala bellator. and that hardly matters to us because we watch the product regardless and we'll continue to do so. but it would matter to tony because he does see it as a competition.
Just that they'll possibly get left behind and cast as the secondary niche promotion ala bellator. and that hardly matters to us because we watch the product regardless and we'll continue to do so. but it would matter to tony because he does see it as a competition.
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