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Alice(1988) is a really trippy movie.

TaySan

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Finally got a copy of this and wow this movie is an surreal trip lol My favorite part is when the girl is being chased by the rabbits minion and fells into the milk turning into a giant doll to be dragged. Or when the sock with teeth is talking to Alice. O.O
 
Dusk Golem

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It's quite a movie with a number of visually impacting scenes, half-way between being a proper adaption of various scenes from the children's novel and some nightmare abomination. Of course it's become one of my favorite Alice in Wonderland adaptions.

I got interested in the film originally learning that this movie was one of the films that lightly inspired Silent Hill 2 of all things, and indeed a few pieces of imagery from Silent Hill 2 do come from this film (the one I remember most immediately being the can full of light bulbs).
 
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TaySan

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Dusk Golem said:
It's quite a movie with a number of visually impacting scenes, half-way between being a proper adaption of various scenes from the children's novel and some nightmare abomination. Of course it's become one of my favorite Alice in Wonderland adaptions.

I got interested in the film originally learning that this movie was one of the films that lightly inspired Silent Hill 2 of all things, and indeed a few pieces of imagery from Silent Hill 2 do come from this film (the one I remember most immediately being the can full of light bulbs).
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Had no idea this inspired SH2, but i could definitely see the connection.
 
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TaySan said:
Had no idea this inspired SH2, but i could definitely see the connection.
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It was an inspiration for the original game as well

What major influences were there for the stories of both Siren and Silent Hill, and what pushed you towards the survival horror genre of video games?

Toyama-san: For Silent Hill, Stephen King's novels and David Lynch's films were major influences. For the nightmarish theme of the game, you should also be able to see influences from films like "Alice" by Jan Svankmajer and "Jacob's Ladder" directed by Adrian Lyne. Siren was mostly influenced by ensemble cast novels such as "Battle Royale" and "Shiki". What pushed me towards the survival horror genre was simply my company's request, but having realised it surprisingly matched my production style, I continued with it for long after all.
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Daphne

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This is my favourite adaptation of Alice. Luckily, I originally saw it as a child on SBS, so I got the full impact. It feels most faithful to the book, although it has so many original elements. Highly imaginative but also unsettling in parts, like the book. The pig-baby alone is amazing. It also keeps the ending, pretty much, which many adaptations don't.

One of the best elucidations of the power of imagination since the original book.
 
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Chance Hale

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I saw this piece of shit on Netflix years ago. It's kinda creepy and mostly terrible.
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Grug

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Saw it on the big screen a couple of years ago, while stoned out of my brain. It was an experience.

The exaggerated sound/foley work contributes heavily to the effect of the film.
 
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TaySan said:
Creepy and low budget? Sure, buts part of the charm of the movie for. What did you find terrible about it? Genuinely curious for your opinion. :)
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I mean, I think you said it more eloquently than they did. It looks low-budget and weird, therefore it is a shitty movie. :/

I also remember having a similar experience where my wife and I started watching it on Netflix and didn't get too far before switching to something else. I'll say this much, what little we did see definitely left an impression.

I was always fascinated by Alice in Wonderland, but the novel I read in grade school was an abridged version, and the game I played was rather difficult:


It is a work that I have always found intriguing and I am tempted to revisit now as an adult.
 
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It might be my favorite interpretation of the original Lewis Carroll book, that and American McGee's Alice. I really enjoyed the trippy and disturbing imagery—Jan Svankmajer's really good at his craft.
 
Geoff

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My Dad took me to see this at the local art-house cinema when I was seven (must have been when it first came out).

Probably the most terrifying experience of my entire life.
 

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Lol this shit is crazy. Just skipped to a random spot in the vid and to describe what I'm watching would sound insane.
 
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Anyone have any good lists or references for things to watch (movie or otherwise) while high?

Recently started smoking after not being able to due to work. Gonna add this to the list.
 
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TaySan said:
I think I would legit have nightmares if I did saw this as a kid lol
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I certainly had nightmares. Stop motion creepiness freaked me out for a long time. Didn't even like the Monty Python animated sections

A few years later I saw this with school. Think I was 11



Just added to the problem.
 
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Jan Švankmajer is a wierd and wonderful man. He's made a lot of great works, all of which have been wierd as fuuuuuck.
 

Min

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Yeah, you should try to go find some of Švankmajer's other movies. Little Otik is wild too.

 
The Albatross

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The only Alice in Wonderland adaptation I Really liked was one we had on VHS as kids, which I think as a BBC adaptation from the 80s... It featured a terrifying Jaberwocky sequence in Alice's house that terrified me. Can't believe my parents let me watch this bizarre shit.

FFS WHY



Basically every anxiety as a child is wrapped up in this. Your parents can't seeing you through the mirror... Jaberwocky being fucking terrifying...

I guess this was the 1985 CBS adaptation. It was pretty fucked up.

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meowdi gras

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Švankmajer's stuff is aces. Also recommend checking out Borowczyk, Trnka, and Quay Brothers for more superbly-trippy stop-motion.
 
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The Albatross said:
The only Alice in Wonderland adaptation I Really liked was one we had on VHS as kids, which I think as a BBC adaptation from the 80s... It featured a terrifying Jaberwocky sequence in Alice's house that terrified me. Can't believe my parents let me watch this bizarre shit.

FFS WHY



Basically every anxiety as a child is wrapped up in this. Your parents can't seeing you through the mirror... Jaberwocky being fucking terrifying...

I guess this was the 1985 CBS adaptation. It was pretty fucked up.
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fuck this scene in particular. it burned itself into my brain as a kid when i turned on the tv and it was on repeat just when the show we were going to watch was about to come on.

it is considerably less scary as an adult though.
 
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AniHawk said:
fuck this scene in particular. it burned itself into my brain as a kid when i turned on the tv and it was on repeat just when the show we were going to watch was about to come on.

it is considerably less scary as an adult though.
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THe parents in the mirror going on with their lives happily without Alice is something that still makes me feel this deep sadness, hahahaha. I think this video just reminded me of some repressed childhood anxiety.
 
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The Albatross said:
THe parents in the mirror going on with their lives happily without Alice is something that still makes me feel this deep sadness, hahahaha. I think this video just reminded me of some repressed childhood anxiety.
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that's what drew me in. i think it was some other station (maybe even a repeat on cbs) and we were gonna flip it over to nickelodeon. we were familiar with alice in wonderland through disney so that part was a strange departure - and definitely one of those more subtle nightmare things. SUDDEN JABBERWOCKY wasn't really the worst part - it was the commercial break. we changed the station so it made that whole sequence feel final.
 
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sersteven said:
Anyone have any good lists or references for things to watch (movie or otherwise) while high?

Recently started smoking after not being able to due to work. Gonna add this to the list.
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Some of my very favorite titles to watch when baked as shit:

Zazie dans le metro
Last Year at Marienbad
Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors
Seconds
Valerie and Her Week of Wonders
The Devils
The Hourglass Sanatorium
The Holy Mountain (1973)
Eraserhead
Narcissus and Psyche
Possession (1981)
Twilight (1990)
The City of Lost Children
Gummo
Keyhole (2011)
Upstream Color
November (2018)
Kenneth Anger's Magick Lantern Cycle (multiple films)



 
apocat

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Happy to see Svankmajer get some love! His works are equal parts creepy and beautiful.
 

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sersteven said:
Bring it on. I'd be down for some pretty weird/trippy stuff.
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Roy Anderson's The Living Trilogy is GOOD. A Pigeon Sat on a Branch Reflecting on Existence is probably the easiest to find



You can fall down a Takashi Miike rabbit hole... Gozu and Happiness of the Katakuris (idk there are a 100 movies to choose from)



 

Min

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Still find Charlie Kaufman stuff pretty wild (Synechdoche New York, Anomalisa)





You could get into Greek New Wave (Yorgos Lanthimos, Athena Rachel Tsangari)



 
sersteven

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Minishdriveby this is all awesome thanks a bunch for sharing, adding it all to the list to check out.

Getting to the point where I'm thinking of creating some trippy/crazy playlist for my media server so this is all great fuel for that as well.
 
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Was gonna come here and post about how this movie never did anything for me (and I have always been a huge fan of the books), but this has turned into a thread about cool, weird, creepy cinema and I am totally down. Keep the recommendations coming.
 
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