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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says "no question" Trump is a racist in 60 Minutes interview
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That she's not really a working class woman from the Bronx and it's all an act to get voters/power. The braindead theory is that she grew up comfortably middle class in Yonkers and went by Sandy. She's conveniently referring to herself as "Alexandria" now in order to play up being a Latina and fraudulently connect with her constituency. Super dumb and embarrassing lol.
Some Trumpers dug up that video of her dancing to smear her... somehow lol.
Edit: Nevermind, I was only seeing the still of the original dancing video half of of the image. I'm baffled by the rest :-P
Woman with five-syllable name goes by common shortening.
Cops are on their way.
That she's not from the Bronx because she went to high school in Westchester County. Which is like 40 mins from the Bronx, so it doesn't count.
You know, like how parents usually send their kids to better schools than the ones in the immediate area so they have better education/opportunities.
Did you look at some other posts by the same account?
Dude's clearly trolling right wing dumbasses.
The real scandal is that when she was 6 months old, she was often referred to by her parents as "Cutie-pie schmoo-schmoo".... She will NEVER survive this.
User Banned (1 Week): Rationalizing and excusing racism
As always, I beg to differ. Trump is no racist, at least not what you would usually call one.
He is suffering "Pauperphobia" if there was such a word. He fears and hates the poor, many of them overlapping with people of color (if only in his mind) makes people think he is a racist. Everyone from south of the US border falls in the category of people who are threating his personal wealth and that of the United States. Same goes for shithole countries and countries made of death and sand.
He isn't even a good islamophobe, he only hates those muslims who are living in caves in sand and death countries. Muslims from rich countries as Saudi Arabia are perfectly fine and welcome, as anybody from these countries is rich (and so can't be a terrorist, which obviously only based on country of origin).
So you tell me he hates people like Kapernick because he is black? Nope, he fears and hates all people who stand up (pun intended) and refuse to be bullied by him.
So you say he supports white nationalists scum (and so is one himself)? Nope, he is endorsing them because he must. It is obvious that even his majority in the electoral college is paper thin (probably already gone). If he loses their support he is gone, there isn't even a question about it. I can't prove it, but I am sure he hates most that scum - especially the non wealthy among them - probably as much as any poor hispanic trying to cross the border.
He doesn't even care about people entering the US by plane and overstaying their visas. Sure they are wealthy enough if they can afford a plane ticket and not walk thousands of miles needing to be tear-gassed.
He is suffering "Pauperphobia" if there was such a word. He fears and hates the poor, many of them overlapping with people of color (if only in his mind) makes people think he is a racist. Everyone from south of the US border falls in the category of people who are threating his personal wealth and that of the United States. Same goes for shithole countries and countries made of death and sand.
He isn't even a good islamophobe, he only hates those muslims who are living in caves in sand and death countries. Muslims from rich countries as Saudi Arabia are perfectly fine and welcome, as anybody from these countries is rich (and so can't be a terrorist, which obviously only based on country of origin).
So you tell me he hates people like Kapernick because he is black? Nope, he fears and hates all people who stand up (pun intended) and refuse to be bullied by him.
So you say he supports white nationalists scum (and so is one himself)? Nope, he is endorsing them because he must. It is obvious that even his majority in the electoral college is paper thin (probably already gone). If he loses their support he is gone, there isn't even a question about it. I can't prove it, but I am sure he hates most that scum - especially the non wealthy among them - probably as much as any poor hispanic trying to cross the border.
He doesn't even care about people entering the US by plane and overstaying their visas. Sure they are wealthy enough if they can afford a plane ticket and not walk thousands of miles needing to be tear-gassed.
that's a lot of sentences to justify someone who started his career by refusing african americans from renting his properties. That was just the beginning.
More like the next 10-15 years. They are already building a conspiracy case and attack list on her with the gop machine to eventually use against her when she runs for Senate or President
his public statements on the central park five after they were found innocent. greatly amplifying birtherism. getting sued alongside his dad for housing discrimination over what color of poor people he'd prefer to be the slumlord of. getting elected while describing black communities as war-torn hellholes and hispanic immigrants as dangerous invading criminal hordes. opening camps for brown kids. with the muslim travel ban, SA was exempted from the travel ban because it's the country he felt the most hope for making money off of.
yes he has a long and public history of racial hatred. He can be racist, have authoritarian sympathies, and look down on the poor all at the same time. people don't have to fling N-bombs in public or participate in hate crimes to be racist. his belief that nonwhite people are inherently dangerous criminals has been one of only two consistent beliefs he's expressed over the years alongside his batshit stances on trade.
it kinda feels like the starting point of your post is an assumption that real racism must be rare.
Why have basically every other dem for the last two years been silent and hasn't tried to lead the conversation like this?
Because of the 2018 Senate map having so many seats to defend in deep red territory. Schumer specifically is noticeably different. (even though he's still annoying, he's deferring to Pelosi.)
House Reps like Waters and Lieu and such were much, much more aggressive even before, and will continue to be the attack dogs because they can say/do things that national leadership can't.
Most of them have ties which they don't want to sever (aka business ties).
It always comes down to money, it's why her remark the other day the most of Congress doesn't work for the people of the USA but corporate interests was a laugh. She is just saying what everyone is thinking and in all honesty, she is just giving them the trump treatment but from a smarter standpoint, she has turned the republicans media tactics on its head.
why?
anyway, he can be all that stuff and also racist, which he is. so, ok.
Cooper's reaction really makes him look like a moron.
And stop fooling yourself into thinking Trump is some kind a strategist when he clearly is not. What you described is a racist.
Being a racist doesn't prevent from liking "good" members of minorities, ie rich, on your political side, etc.
And stop fooling yourself into thinking Trump is some kind a strategist when he clearly is not. What you described is a racist.
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while i echo the praise, i think this undersells just how much goes into her being this good. she's definitely filtering everything through a careful strategy and training herself to strike the right tone when posed these questions, the only difference from the norm is that hers is the *right* strategy.
Agreed, she's incredibly good at this, and this isn't something most people are incredibly good at.
AOC isn't the first politician to call Trump a racist. A few others have as well.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/14/politics/john-lewis-trump-daca-comments-cnntv/index.html
https://www.axios.com/bernie-sander...bic-6da0fbe8-695a-492d-883d-865fdb96af6c.html
Practically every dem has applied the modifier "racist" to Trump's actions. Instead of saying Trump is racist, they say that he used a racial slur or dog whistle, or that the plan is 'racially charged'.
What I like is that the sexism/racism of the GOP has given AOC such a huge platform. And she is very good with using that platform to dunk on them.
(and there's a related issue that calling out a voter as racist for choosing a candidate that's racist is electorally poisonous. And that's because 20% of the Democrat base is themselves racist. This is partly why Clinton's "deplorable" comment, while true, was a huge blunder.)
sadly, yes. in the eyes of a sizeable percentage of white people, it's only really racism if you're throwing around the N word and beating people up while chanting "yes this is a hate crime" in a KKK uniform. Because racism is bad and the world must be ok so racism must be over. The just-world fallacy is a hell of a drug.
You should participate in the mental Olympics because what you just wrote requires world class mental gymnastics to justify not calling Trump a racist.
He is a racist. Just because he isn't yelling racist shit at every black person doesn't mean he isn't one.
Also, hint: if you do racist shit & use racist rhetoric to garner political points from racist people, you are a racist.
My point is he might be called a racist, but the race he targets are not hsipanics, african, african american, asian or whatever, it is those that are poor - which you really can't call a race.
I believe he is even too "stupid" to really understand/endorse white racism and on the other side too "clever" to hate all people of a certain ethnicity, religion or skin color. If they are rich like Kanye he has no problem with people of color. I bet he would welcome Carlos Slim to the US and to his home anytime.
The targets of his hate and fears can't be categorized by race so he is not a racist in my opinion. It doesn't make him less vile, he is an insecure, xenophobe opportunist who wants to keep anyone poor out of the country which combind with lack of even basic empathy makes him much worse than your standard racist. He would send poor homeless but white people out of the country if he could and sure doesn't care in the slightest if they live or die (preferably the later probably).
Is it wrong of me to think that it's even more pathetic than Van Jones' "Trump became president in that moment" reaction?
Cooper has called Trump's racism for what it is multiple times. If we are to believe his reaction is genuine, then he has literally regressed as a person. But he's probably just pretending, which makes him look like a huge asshole in addition to a dumbass for thinking anyone who has paid attention since 2016 would be fooled by that shit.
You might be right with the gymnastics, but I only practice them because with all the problems and evil Trump brings labeling him as a racist is too easy even if he also is some kind of "opportunity racist".
Still I am sure any kid born by a poor white homeless drug addict has as little right to exist in his eyes as any hispanic kid that crossed the border.
I would never think of Trump as a racist, I think of him as a stupid opportunistic sociopath who holds a country hostage. Hell, he even needed a memory trick in form of a wall to make him remember to endorse his racist and white nationalist scum base.
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Right and his hate boner for Obama is because the former POTUS was poor
you're looking at a consistent pattern of hating and fearing brown and black people and then declaring that the racial elements of it are coincidental. regardless of the reason for that logical failure you're fucking up. he accepts brown people with money when he has a personal chance of profiting off of it - see: saudi arabia's dealings with his son-in-law. otherwise he routinely makes public statements and supports policy decisions centering around the idea that minorities are dangerous criminals
he's not demonizing broke rural white counties. he's not calling global warming a european plot. he's not banning eastern european immigrants.
What makes you sure about that? When has Trump ever spoken down on poor white homeless drug addicts? When has Trump ever spoken down about poor white people in general? Your example has no real basis. Its almost like you are making shit up.
Ah, yes. "Socialist". So scary.
If she was a communist, i could understand but socialist ? Really ? That is supposed to be bad ?
Hey at least they didn't use the C-word
communist
I thought it is obvious. Take all people Trump hates and fears and you can see an easy pattern:
- People who are poor
- People who he can't bully
We know where his Obama hate stems from and it has nothing to do with skin color
You all sound like I defend Trump, but all I am saying is he is something much more dangerous and vile than a racist.
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You can split hairs on a lot of stuff. The thing is that Trump would be the person to assume that a black or hispanic person is poor, versus a white person. He would give tiki-torch rally folks the benefit of the doubt and say that there's good people on both sides. He's also the type who would advocate execution for five black teens, and remain convinced decades after evidence exonerates them.
It's clear he over sympathizes with whites over other races. This makes him racist.
It would be like saying that Proud Boys aren't racist. They just really believe that their culture is superior and that anything that causes deviation from it is bad. And that they must fight forces that are trying to change it. It just happens that the people who would bring different cultures are from non-white-euro countries. So they are hostile to blacks and browns because of culture and not race.