Eventually one will drop out and endorse the other, and hopefully their base and support goes with them.
You add their polling numbers together and no other candidate could even come close.
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Eventually one will drop out and endorse the other, and hopefully their base and support goes with them.
You add their polling numbers together and no other candidate could even come close.
When I get down about polls I remember Michigan and it's primary which had a thirty point polling failure for Bernard.He was predicted to lose by 25 and won by 5.
I've seen polls this cycle with 10 percent moe. Then there's the failure to predict Trump. These people aren't trustworthy anymore.
I'm afraid that one of them isn't gonna drop out until it's too late for their bases to combine and overtake Biden's
This. And I don't even necessarily blame them, each has a decent shot. If one starts strongly overtaking the other, the other has a good incentive to resign. But if they stay close *to each other*, neither will want to drop out.
You couldn't just add their polling numbers together. They aren't the second choice of many of the other candidate's voters.
You know, it is possible to agree with Sanders' policies and just think he wouldn't be a great President.
I worked with Sanders and his team in the past, and that's where I am.
His becoming president would negatively impact the career prospects of a lot of people currently employed in the Democratic establishment, that's for sure
No, we don't know. Just like we didn't know how Trump's blatant racism, idiocy, and inexperience would play out.
Like, is there evidence in the polls that suffering a heart attack was a significant setback to Bernie's chances? Is there any world where Trump's health is actually a competitive advantage, considering his age, his lack of discipline, and all that other stuff? Just as Bernie's heart attack helped to open my heart to him, could we not imagine Bernie using an event like that to his advantage, conjuring up sympathy, galvanizing a sense of collective purpose, using it to create a point of contrast between him and his opponent?
What I'm trying to say here: this rush to defeatism in the face of a significant but frequently workable health issue isn't rooted in anything concrete. Trust me, I understand the fear; health issues aside, even, it'd be nice for the average age of our candidates to be significantly lower. The process of rooting for a candidate always includes making a gamble, though. I don't think Bernie's heart attack makes him particularly more vulnerable to Republican nonsense than the endless other things that have been brought up about all the other frontrunners.
among other things, he would hire far less from orgs like CAP (which basically exists at this point to keep the Overton window from shifting far enough left to genuinely threaten donor-class interests), would be far less welcoming to lobbyists, and would generally adhere much less to the "pay your dues to the party" model of career advancement than any of the other candidates
Well it's not as bad as all those awkward pics of Biden that's for sure.
Out of the main 3 I do feel Bernie is the least likely to win, but if he can go all the way then great.
while that may be accurate (i do have some qualms about the "pay your dues to the party" bit given some of his campaign hires, he certainly seems to value loyalty), it seems like if the democratic party establishment is out to Stop Bernie that they'd actually grow their organizations and agents under a Sanders Presidency? i feel like it's going to open a lot of exciting career opportunities for people in the biz even if they aren't necessarily moving up to the White House staff.
Every so often I begin to question myself why I'm not supporting Bernie this go-around considering he's the closest to my political alignment (he's still way to the right of me).
I was on his train pretty much from the start in 2016, got into a few scraps with PoliGaf during those primaries to be sure. But then again, that's only because FORMA decided not to run against Clinton.
So even though I'm still not supporting Bernie in the primaries, I'm extremely happy that they're putting focus on climate change and our overall consumption. Those matter for the future and present.
Hopefully Liz steals a lot of these ideas and tries to incorporate them into her platform if she hasn't already.
Goddammit Bernie, why did you have to hire Tad Devine for 2016 and now be old as hell. Fuck.
I was on his train pretty much from the start in 2016, got into a few scraps with PoliGaf during those primaries to be sure. But then again, that's only because FORMA decided not to run against Clinton.
So even though I'm still not supporting Bernie in the primaries, I'm extremely happy that they're putting focus on climate change and our overall consumption. Those matter for the future and present.
Hopefully Liz steals a lot of these ideas and tries to incorporate them into her platform if she hasn't already.
Goddammit Bernie, why did you have to hire Tad Devine for 2016 and now be old as hell. Fuck.
And conversely help the career of young progressives so ... Good?
With this gust Bernie has gotten I fear this will be the case.
Two months ago I was thinking this was going to be similar to the 2007 race where once Edwards conceded the left vote coalesced around Obama and that was it.
With Warren and Bernie neck and neck it very well may be the case that they doom the collective chance of a more left-wing, enthusiasm inducing candidate making it through.
I mean its been well documented why he hired Devine... I mentioned it in the first page
It feels like the GOP primary, but in reverse: Whereas for them a big pool of centrist conservatives split the "moderate" vote too thin, allowing a populist to quickly lead the pools, and gain momentum from there (with big help from free media coverage), it seems during the current Dem primary it's actually the (left wing) populist vote that's being split in half by Warren and Bernie, allowing Biden to appear stronger in the pools than he really is, perhaps enough to get him to win the nomination.